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Who will win Group 5?

  • Velez Sarsfield

    Votes: 3 33.3%
  • Morelia

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Sporting Cristal

    Votes: 1 11.1%
  • Nacional

    Votes: 4 44.4%

  • Total voters
    9
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Velez Sarsfield

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Nickname:
Uniform: White with a blue V in the chest, blue shorts and blue socks
Barrio - City - Country: Liniers - Buenos Aires - Argentina
Stadium: Jose Amalfitani (50000)
Championships: Argentinian Champion: 5 (1968, 93, 95, 96, 98); Libertadores Champion: 1994; Intercontinental Champion: 1994
Links: www.velezsarsfield.com.ar

Short History
Created January 1910. One of the "big six" in Argentinian footbal and trully one of the best organized if not the best in Argentina.

Top Players
Jose Basualdo: Historic veteran and midfielder leader
Dario Husain: Very good forward
Fernado Pandolfi: Ex Perugia, Velez most potent striker.

Supporters - Barras - Chants
Barra Name: Fortineros
Chant:
"En Villa Luro hay una banda que nunca pasa de moda,
es la banda velezana, es la mas loca de todas,
es la banda velezana, es la mas loca de todas,
para ser Fortinero hay que seguirlo,
para ser Fortinero hay que alentarlo,
hay que seguir a velez a todos lados,
vamos ,vamos Fortineros, vamos
vamos Fortineros, vamos,
vamos Fortineros.
"



MORELIA

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Nickname: Monarcas
Uniform: Red and Yellow horizontal stripes shirts, blue shorts and blue socks
Barrio - City - Country: Morelia - Mexico
Stadium: Estadio Morelos (41000)
Championships: Mexican Champion: 2000
Links: www.moreliamonarcas.com

Short History
Created in 1913. Despite being in the first division of Mexican football for almost 50 years this provincial was never a factor in Mexican championship until TV Azteca bought the club in the mid-90's Nowdays competes as a solid club.

Top Players
Ramon Morales: Left Back for the Mexican NT
Dario Franco; Solid Argie defender
Jose Noriega: Versatile midfielder
Alex Fernandez: Brazilian striker, the most influential player
Jafed Soto: Costarican historic player, very quick forward

Supporters - Barras - Chants
Barra Name:
Chants:
"Fuerza Morelia ole
equipo de la fuerza ole
fuerza Morelia ole
equipo de la fuerza ole
fuerza Morelia, Morelia, Morelia, ole
"



SPORTING CRISTAL

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Nickname: Cerveceros
Uniform: Light blue shirt, white shorts and white socks
Barrio - City - Country: Rimac - Lima - Peru
Stadium: Estadio Nacional (45000)
Championships: Peruvian Champion: 13 (1956, 61, 68, 70, 72, 79, 80, 83, 88, 91, 92, 94, 95, 96)
Links: www.geocities.com/madisonavenue/1975

Short History
Created December 1955. The owners of the the local brewery decided to sponsor and took over an old profesional club and changed it's name. Sporting Cristal started winning championships from the year of its inception. They got to the final of the Libetadores Cup in 1997.

Top Players
Miguel Miaranda: Peru NT goalie
Roberto Palacios: The best Peruvian Midfielder of the last 10 years
Jorge Soto: Peruvian NT defender

Supporters - Barras - Chants
Barra Name: Extremo Celeste
Chants:
"Si si seqores
somos del Rmmac
somos del Rmmac
de corazsn
porque este aqo
de La Florida
de La Florida
sale el nuevo campesn"



NACIONAL

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Nickname: Tricolor
Uniform: White with blue and red shirt, blue short and red socks
Barrio - City - Country: Montevideo - Uruguay
Stadium: Centenario (80000)
Championships: Uruguayan Champion: 26 (1933, 34, 39, 40, 41, 42, 43, 46, 47, 50, 52, 55, 56, 57, 63, 66, 69, 70, 71, 72, 77, 80, 83, 92, 98, 2001); Libertadores Cup: 1971, 1980, 1988; Intercontinental Cup: 1971, 1980, 1988
Links: www.nacionaldigital.com

Short History
Created May 1899 from the fusion of two clubs. Certainly one of the greatest teams in South America three times Libertadores Cup Champion.

Top Players
Limberg Gutierrez: Bolivian NT midfielder with a rocket of a shot
Gustavo Munua: Uruguay NT 2nd Goalie
Alejandro Lembo: Uruguay NT defender
Richard Morales: Uruguay NT striker, He scored the goal that qualify Uruguay to the WC

Supporters - Barras -Chants
Barra Name: Bolsos
Chant:
"Vamos vamos Bolsilludo vamos los Bolsos vamo' a ganar
somos la mitad mas uno el sentimiento mas popular
Bolso te llevo en el alma ya cada día te quiero más"
 

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Who will go through to the next round?

This one is pretty even group. No clear favorite.

Velez didn't make it out of the first round last year. This time around they look even weaker. Plus the financial woes I see them falling short again. THIRD

Morelia is a pretty solid team with couple of players that can make a difference. I see them going through in SECOND.

Sporting Cristal is IMO the best Peruvian team but still it will be very difficult for them to go through. It will be close but by default they'll finish FOURTH

Nacional got to the second round last year eliminating San Lorenzo on its way there. I think they'll repeat their performance this year and top the group. FIRST
 

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Im a mexican soccer fan...from many..many yrs back..As a matter of fact from the yrs when every s american laughed at the Mexicans soccer.
1 Morelia
2 Nacional
3 Velez and Sorry Sporting dead last ;)
 

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sporting has a very good chance of finishing in the top 2 in this group

it has played 2 friendlies so far this year
against penarol and millonarios

both ended up in draws

the 2 players up and coming players to watch are
midfielder renzo sheput and defender angel villalta

i think the order will be

nacional
sporting
velez
morelia
 

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A tough one but I don't see Velez Sarsfield doing well at all. They have been underachieving in the domestic league for a while so I don't even see them going trough. My call goes for Nacional with mexicans and peruvians fighting for the second place.
 

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It pains me to say this, but Nacional is the has been the best Uruguayin team the last 2 years, and are the best chance for a Uruguayin team to do well in this tournament.

But to do well they will have to find a replacement for Sebastian Abreu who left to Cruz Azul earlier this year. He was such a dominating force, for Nacional, and I dont think any of the replacements Nacional has brought can do the job he did.

All hopes will rely on the creative play of Limber Guitierrez

Oh & Condor great to see u back buddy
 

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They got Brazilian Flavio Barros to replace Abreu. he played for Barcelona de Guayaquil and was the second leading scorer in the league. But he is very inconsistent he would score i 3 or 4 games in a row then go 7 or 8 games without scoring. More frustrating is that he average about 4 CLEAR misses for evry goal he scores. :fero:
 

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Nacional of Montevideo takes the first spot and Sporting Cristal the second.
 

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feb 5

Monarcas Morelia Vs Velez Sarsfield

feb 6

Sporting Cristal Vs Nacional
 

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It is avery hard group, because Nacional is a traditional top team of Libertadores Cup, and Velez is always a interesting protagonist. But we can't put out Morelia. Mexican's team are fierce teams and very brave playing in home. Sporting..There are nothing to do here!

1.Nacional
2.Morelia
3.Velez
4.Sporting
 

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sportings squad for libertadores

gk: Miguel Miranda, Erick Delgado, Diego Penny.

defenders: Jorge Huamán, Percy Olivares, Manuel Marengo, David Soria, Víctor Zambrano, Miguel Villalta, Alberto Rodríguez, José Moisela.

midfielders: Erick Torres, Jean Ferrari, Diego Martínez, Carlos Ísmodes, Jorge Soto, Alex Magallanes, Roberto Palacios, Renzo Sheput, César Balbín.

fowards: Julinho (brazilian), Flavio Maestri, Luis Alberto Bonnet (argentinian), Piero Alva y Guillermo Saco Vértiz

the starting lineup should be

------------------Miguel Miranda
Jorge Huamán, Percy Olivares, Miguel Villalta, David Soria
------------------Jean Ferrari
Jorge Soto----Roberto Palacios----Renzo Sheput
-----------Flavio Maestri-----Luis Alberto Bonnet

bench
Erick Delgado
Manuel Marengo
José Moisela
Erick Torres
Diego Martínez
Alex Magallanes
Julinho
Guillermo Saco Vértiz
 

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Another team that is playing like a well oiled machine. Nacional beat up on Central Espanol in the opening of Uruguayan championship 5 - 0.
 

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Good win but central is a very weak team.

Nacional have now lost Limberg Guitierrez there most creative & influential player. He is going to sign with a Brasilian team.

This will hurt there chances of advancing in La Copa.
 

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FSWE has the Morelia-Velez Sarsfield game live today....Dont forget.....10:00PM Eastern Time :)
 

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http://www.internetsoccer.com

Sporting and Nacional face off in Copa Libertadores

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By Diego Aparicio
05 February 2002 (Teamtalk) -- Sporting Cristal of Peru are set to take on Uruguayan champions Nacional during their international debut on Wednesday.

The Peruvian giants will start their Copa Libertadores campaign playing in front of their home crowd in Lima.

Nacional, for their part, will look forward to reinvigorating the momentum of last Sunday in Montevideo during their local season opener.

The Uruguayans will field Uruguayan international Richard Morales in the front line. Morales is a tall, fast, and very effective striker and is also the man responsible for delivering Uruguay to the World Cup finals.

Morales also got off to a great start in league action, hitting two goals last Sunday in a 5-0 win over Central Español in the local league.

Nacional’s number one offensive weapon will be aided by Bolivian playmaker Limbert Gutierrez. The Bolivian international, in his second year wearing the Tricolor outfit, will orchestrate the Uruguayan club midfield alongside Charrúa international Gustavo Varela.

As for Sporting Cristal, Peruvian international Roberto Palacios will lead the playmaking scheme.

“The group is joyful and with lots of energy to start playing and to draw the Uruguayan faces, though this will be complicated because they [Nacional] have a good team and they’d like to reach [get] a point in Lima,” said the Sporting Cristal skipper.

Besides featuring Palacios, Sporting Cristal also fields other Peruvian national team members like goalkeeper Miguel Miranda, defender Percy Olivares and striker Flavio Maestri.

In the front line, Cristal will field Brazilian striker Julinho, who has wear the Celeste jersey since 1993 and was a member of the Copa Libertadores runner-ups in 1997.

Sporting Cristal and Nacional of Montevideo recently played a friendly match in Lima. They have been seeded in Group 5 and will meet later with Morelia of Mexico and Velez Sarsfield of Argentina.
 

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Morelia 0 - Velez 0 Halftime

I am not sure if Morelia can waste more scoring opportunities than they did in the 1st half. It's starting to become ridiculous.

We'll see if Velez can survive the 2nd half.
 

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Morelia 0 - Velez 0 FINAL

Velez keeper was the man of the match. Great result for the Argies.
 

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Morelia couldnt put the ball away...Waste 3 points at home :lala:
Its going to haunt them the rest of the 1st round which is where they will stop anyways !!!!

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Morelia- V Sarsfield Stats

Morelia 0 Velez Sarsfield 0 - Libertadores Cup result


MEXICO CITY, Feb 6 (Reuters) - Morelia (Mexico) 0 Velez Sarsfield (Argentina) 0 - result

Libertadores Cup first round

Attendance: 35,000

Teams:

Morelia: Jose Maria Buljubasich; Heriberto Morales, Omar Trujillo, Dario Franco, Hugo Chavez; Flavio Davino, Javier Lozano, Jose Noriega, Jorge Almiron, Diego Galvan (Alejandro Glaria 68), Alex Fernandez.

Velez Sarsfield: Gaston Sessa; Federico Dominguez, Mauricio Fuentes, Sebastian Mendez, Fabian Cubero, Dario Husain, Juan Falcon, Emilio Hidalgo, Leandro Gracian (Leandro Somosa 29), Patricio Camps (Roberto Nani 78), Emiliano Dudar.

Great crowd in Morelia, Michoacan...Bad result for Monarcas !!!
 
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