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Primera Liga - 2007/2008 [Jornada 26]




Next Stop: Huelva :scared:.

So far this season, it has been Andalucía 3-0 Real Madrid. In three trips to Betis, Sevilla and Almería, we've gone home with zero points. Will the "Bermuda Triangle" continue in Huelva? The omens don't look good, but news on the injury front does. Pepe and Robinho are back in the squad, and are both set to start this match ahead of the crucial Champions League 2nd leg. It will be only the second time this season we'll be able to field our first-choice defense :proud:.

3 league defeats in our last 4 matches has given the eternal enemy oxygen to believe again, and we must be careful here as it is possible for us to lose 1st place this weekend for the first time this season - and the psychological blow as a result would be substantial. However, Barça have a difficult match at Atlético, so a win here may allow us to extend out lead at the top to four or five points.

As for Recreativo, their new coach Manolo Zambrano has provided them with much-needed impetus. They're on a good run of form at the moment with two consecutive victories and a draw since the departure of Víctor Muñoz - which seems them two points clear of the drop zone.




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S.Ramos - Pepe:proud: - Canna - Heinze

Gago - Guti

Robben - Raul - Robinho:proud:

RVN

La Liga| Saturday, 1 March 08| 20:00 CET| Nuevo Colombino

 

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I don't think there is anything more that needs to be said; win, win, win. A good result here will set us up nicely for the Roma game, our confidence can not afford to take another hit.
 

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More than a win, I wanna see attitude!!!! A win and an attitude!! and Am I glad Robinho is coming back. Since his injury we've been losing!

I think we should rest Raul or Ruud and play Diarra because Gago can't do it by himself in the middle and Guti is not really known for his defensive skills.
 

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Casillas

S.Ramos - Pepe:proud: - Canna - Heinze

Gago<==== - Guti

Robben - Raul - Robinho:proud:

RVN




====> Diarra instead any of guti

time for the beast to start to eat others alive again

Diarra as a defensive midfielder is 10x gago ... with all due respect to your precious + he didnt play for alot of time (twice in a month maybe) so he needs some match practise


*As much as this match is important for us ... i'd love to rest Raul and Guti Ahead of the CL clash . because Raul will be hopefully determinal and Guti as well if fielded

*I believe Schuster should monitor Rvn in this game and the decision of fielding him against Roma should be guided by his performance in this one coz i prefer Robben-Raul-Robson with Diarra-Gago-Guti in the midfield​
 

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Didn't Cannavaro and Guti pick-up knocks last night?
 

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Yes, but they're not expected to keep them out of this game.

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Diarra as a defensive midfielder is 10x gago ...
No, he's not. Gago recovers more balls than this supposed "specialist" defensive midfielder.

The only time Diarra is useful is in difficult away matches where we could do with some muscle in the middle of the park. That's it. Gago should never be taken out of the line-up, anyone who understands football can see he is real quality.
 

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Yes, but they're not expected to keep them out of this game.
Marca said they're both doubtful for the match. Especially because of the Roma match coming up and Schuster not wanting to risk them if they're not 100% fit.
 

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I expect Guti to be rested as we'll need him on the ball from the first minute against Roma. It's an away game, so Diarra steps in alongside Gago.
 

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What's mind boggling for me is that people here are either on Diarra's side, or Gago's side. When they don't realize that if these guys played together, I really think it would be a great combo. We see how good we played in Rome. Diarra was very solid while Gago was supplying some fantastic balls.

I want to see Diarra, Gago, Robben, Robinho for this game.

And please no more Baptista. Bernd will throw in anyone just to play with 3 CM's. And then he brings on a bunch of wingers like Higuain and Drenthe when we are losing. And I can't remember the last time we came back from a goal down? Where is last years fighting spirit? It's worrying.


I will only welcome Sneijder back in a rotation. Baptista is a copa player at best.
 

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Yes, but they're not expected to keep them out of this game.



No, he's not. Gago recovers more balls than this supposed "specialist" defensive midfielder.

The only time Diarra is useful is in difficult away matches where we could do with some muscle in the middle of the park. That's it. Gago should never be taken out of the line-up, anyone who understands football can see he is real quality.

I dunno about that. Diarra has a presence in the middle that Gago doesn't have. A DM is not just about recovering ball but breaking down plays is much more vital. I'd take Diarra any day over Gago if not for his aweful passing. Diarra is great at his role. It's the fault of the other two playing next to him that are too far when he gets the ball and force him to make long passes.

Anybody remember Makelele, the 5 yards pass specialist? Why 5 yards? because the other midfielder were close!
 

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No, he's not. Gago recovers more balls than this supposed "specialist" defensive midfielder.
:blind: :wallbang:
keep on using Gago, lets see if we can get 1 point from this match...

Schuster is to blame for the mentality issue. He just don't have it in him.
BTW, when Gago and Diarra do play together, schuster let Diarra play as a CM and Gago as a DM, there's not a single person in the world who have not noticed that, and everyone agrees it should be the other way around, yet schuster who plays football manager at night, thinks this is how it should be played. bright coach.
 

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sagy, I think the way he had it in Rome worked really well. But I don't think he will play Gago alone as CM ever, only with Guti/Baptista/Sneijder beside him.
 

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Yes, but they're not expected to keep them out of this game.



No, he's not. Gago recovers more balls than this supposed "specialist" defensive midfielder.

The only time Diarra is useful is in difficult away matches where we could do with some muscle in the middle of the park. That's it. Gago should never be taken out of the line-up, anyone who understands football can see he is real quality.

yes, he is. if gago recovered more ball in some matches that doesnt mean that he always does . the role of defensive midfielders isnot only to recover ball , their positioning is important , Physical presence and Btw Diarra's mispasses are less than gago according to the passing/recovering ratio you once showed and he is more reliable than you proposed gay partner

i dont know why iam discussing this , gago may have showed that he has something to offer, but comparing him to diarra in the dmc position is insane .... watch diarra at lyon and with madrid last year and i think you may take hint , you are evaluating diarra based on alot of bad performances this season but you know there are alot of good other ones like Barca's for example
 

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When Diarra plays i am much less worried about us getting goals from counter attack. He is a beast and shows that in the pitch. His presents alone makes a bonus. We all know how we were when we sold Makelele, and he was even wors when it comes to passing.

But anyway lets not put this thread in to another Gago versus Diarra (when clearly they should play together :stuckup: (Pirlo,Gattuso style)) topic, couse the main thing here is that we simply must win and win by a performance.

I am sure that morale of the players is down after cold streak we are having and there is no better medicine than winning with performance. If we win and do it by style then i am optmistic for Roma clash. Anything other than that and i will be serously woried.

Its time that the team show what they are made off and why they are Real Madrid players. Its time to show some character again and send a clear message to our rivals that we are able to turn things around and bring La Liga safely home where it belongs.

We must start taking our chanches and create some dangerous passes that our forwards can use. I am optimistic about this game and belive in Schusters ability to boost up our players before the match.

I am a men that thinks that when you have a team like Real Madrid with loads of expirience and talent there isn't much to teach them except to boost them before every game. And I strongly belive in that.

So Schuster make a great speach lad, the players will need one.
 

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The problem with you people is that you're talking about the Diarra of last year. This season, most of his performances have warranted a jail sentence, if you ask me. Gago has been better than Diarra in every facet of the game this season; defensively, passing, anything. The only thing Diarra has over Gago is "physical presence". If you believe that factor to be sufficient enough to start Diarra, then that's your opinion. I am not hating on him, why would I? What has Diarra ever done to me? I could ask for Diarra-Gago, and I haven't even done that once. So it has nothing to do with putting down Diarra to praise Gago, since they can play together. At this point in time, Gago is clearly the better option, and if anyone has watched Madrid this year they'd be inclined to agree. I wouldn't start Diarra unless we're playing away from home against a physical team.

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I expect Guti to be rested as we'll need him on the ball from the first minute against Roma. It's an away game, so Diarra steps in alongside Gago.
Zero chance Schuster is resting Guti now that Barca have closed the gap to two points - we're going to play our best team. Also, Betis was an away game and Diarra didn't start in that one, so I don't expect him to start here either. I think Schuster has it in his mind to only start Diarra against the top teams. Honestly, has the last month suggested anything else? Diarra hasn't started in our last three league matches (Valladolid, Betis and Getafe), but he started in Rome. It's clear to me.
 

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I think Schuster has it in his mind to only start Diarra against the top teams. Honestly, has the last month suggested anything else?
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the problem with Diarra is that you need to play him regularly that he hits his form again.
 
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