[ToniSamp]

Good thread, Piotrek. :thmbup:

As regards me I started to follow Sampdoria in 1982-83. At the beginning of that season Paolo Mantovani made some extraordinary purchases. First of all he bought the not-yet-18 years old Mancini from Bologna for an incredible amount of money considering the age of il Mancio. Then he bought Liam Brady, who had just won 2 scudetti in his 2 seasons at Juve and had been sold by Juventus just cause there was room just for 2 foreign players and Juve was going to get Boniek and Platini. And the third great purchase of that season was the English ace Trevor Francis.
Trevor Francis was a formidable forward but he was damn fragile. I remember a map of his injuries when he was at Sampdoria, he spent more or less a half of the games out for injuries. And that was a pity cause with Trevor Francis the score of Sampdoria was fantastic. Season 1982-83: Sampdoria are just promoted to serie A and they must face Juventus, Inter and Roma in the first three games. Three incredible wins! Unfortunately Trevor Francis gets heavily injured in the game against Roma and in the following game against the historical rival Pisa at Arena Garibaldi Sampdoria loses 3-2. Trevor Francis will miss the following 16 games and the score of Sampdoria in those games will be very mediocre.
The following season will be similar for Francis, but in 1984-85 he becomes the leader of the team which gains the 4th place in serie A and wins the Italian Cup. Francis is also the top scorer in the Italian Cup. The Scottish ex-Liverpool midfielder Graeme Souness is the other foreigner in that season. He has replaced Liam Brady, who moved to Inter. Souness is famous for his fantastic long passes but also for the temper. The temper of Souness, together with the excess of forwards (four: Vialli, Mancini, Francis, Lorenzo for two places) originates the crisis of Samp in 1985-86, when the team is almost relegated. But, in spite of that mediocre season, the team of 1990-91 was forming, with the promising youngsters Mannini, Vierchowod, Pari, Vialli who had joined in the period 1983-86.

 

[ToniSamp]

I think that in the period I followed Boskov is the only one who deserves the title of "legend". Eriksson was a great coach but his successes came above all in other clubs.

 

[ToniSamp]

What I don't understand is why the Samp Ultras turn on their legends

Yes, Mancio was not the first

Toni can gladly tell you the name of the other legernd for Sampdoria that the fans turned against

I can't remember his name but it was acknowledged by him a few months ago in a post somewhere

Mancini, Pagliuca and Vierchowod.

There is a good reason or a debatable reason for all of them. What is certain is that the supporters prefer to love the legends rather than turn against them, but what is also certain is that we cannot kiss the ass of the legends forever when they show that they don't care for their old supporters any more... nor for the team in which they spent their life gaining millions.

 

[ToniSamp]

What are actually feelings among Samp supporters and Mancini?

There are two different factions: those who love him and those who hate him. The second faction grew after the last season and while he received above all indifference during the last game and was contested just at the end of it, I'm quite certain that he will be sonorously booed during the next Samp-Inter.

 

[ToniSamp]

Correct me if I´m wrong but didn´t Mancini go to the press and promised the Lazio fans that he never would leave them when he already had signed a contract with Inter. I don´t know if this is true or not, but if it is it´s pretty low :thmbdown: Still I belong to the people who love him for what he did in Samp, he is, no doubt about it, in my eyes a true legend.

Here´s one, probably not a legend (and if he is it´s probably in Milan) but as I recalled it, a great teamplayer. Alberigo Evani. Don´t remember to much about him, only that he played out on the left and always did a deacent job for Samp, and I also vagly remeber him scoring a goal for italy in an international tornament. Anyone care to refreash my memory....

Yes, Alberigo Evani was a very underrate player, at least at Sampdoria.
A modern winger on the left flank,the kind of player every coach loves, when he joined us in 1993 coming from the SuperMilan many people thought that he was already on the way down. Instead he was very useful for Sampdoria and even for the NT, infact he was convoked by Sacchi for the WC and played some minutes in the final of the WC 1994 against Brazil, when he replaced Dino Baggio in the extratime and scored an unfortunately useless PK in the PKs tiebreaker.
Probably the fact that he has been a legend for Milan (he also scored the winning goal against Higuita's Medellin in an Intercontinental Cup) prevented him from becoming a favourite of the supporters of Sampdoria, infact he is hardly mentioned.

 

[ToniSamp]

And about Mancini what you mention is true, Mattias, but Mancini often behaved in that way even before, at Sampdoria and Fiorentina. Unfortunately some players are champions on the pitch (and Mancini certainly was a champion), but out of it they can be very disappointing for the supporters.

 

[ToniSamp]

Il_principe! Nice fotos :thumbsup:

Toni! I remember Evani scoring goal in 1994 WC final :undecide: I dind't sleep half a night then, keeping my fingers crossed and...nothing :frownani:

And just few words about Boskov...You remember him.What kind of coach was he? I read interview with him few years ago (after he left Sampdoria)and he made impression of being really great person

Yes, he was. And he was also a great coach, very underrated from a technical-tactical point of view probably due to the fact that he liked to repeat banal phrases like "one point is better than no points", "in order to score you have to shoot on goal" "in order to win you have to score more goals then the opponent" etc.
Truth is that he was a very smart person and he was able to manage a team which was full of champions, not an easy job.

 

[ToniSamp]

Today I was reading a thread on this forum about players who were underrated and didn't get what they deserved at international level.
Soon I thought to the formation of Sampdoria in the 80s -90s and one name came in my mind: Moreno Mannini. Thinking to him I realize the reason why the Italian NT in the Vicini/Sacchi era was one of the best in the world while now it is hardly in the European top10. Infact Moreno hardly played in the Italian NT (10 caps) but he could easily play in this one, being ten times better than one mediocre Zaccardo. Moreno Mannini was a wonderful right back, later in his carreer a center back, fast and powerful, splendid man marker. He spent 15 years at Sampdoria, practically all his carreer, since he joined us when he was 22 and left just for his home club Imolese in serie D (after a brief experience at Nottingham). 366 games with Sampdoria, second just to Mancini.

 

[ToniSamp]

Toninho Cerezo in my opinion was an underrated champion. He joined Sampdoria in 1986 when he was 31 and stayed at Sampdoria till 1992, but one year later (when he was 38!!) he scored one goal to Milan in the 3-2 win of Sao Paulo to Milan for the Toyota Cup. He was the playmaker of Sampdoria, had fantastic technique, ball control, pass... a typical Brazilian champion of that era.
Also a very smart person and a true professional (infact he could retire late). He did not score many goals but some of them were very important.
The supporters of Sampdoria who are too young and did not watch that team missed indeed something. They played very well. I have watched them many times here in Torino both vs Juve and Torino and even if I just remember one win (3-2 to Torino) I have never been disappointed cause they always played great football.
I don't know what club Cerezo is training now.

As regards Vicini, yes, he was a player of Sampdoria, and so his assistant Brighenti (who also was topscorer of serie A once).

 

[ToniSamp]

And what have You decided?

What with Cerezo carrier in the international competitions? Was he important, well known player of the Brazilian National Team?

Yes, he was. He was a member of the Brazilian NT in 1978 and 1982 (when Poland were among the best NTs too ).

 

[ToniSamp]

A mention for whomever made the song of the video with the Brazilian rhythm. p

"con Toninho blucerchiato siamo già al Maracanà ma che bisogno c'è di andare fino là"
"with Toninho blucerchiato we are already at Maracanà, why should we go there" :howler: :thumbsup: :thumbsup:

 

[ToniSamp]

And Lippi too! If You trust Wikipedia he was playing for us for 10 years (between 1970 and 1980) and he was a coach of our youth teams. I didn't know that!

Yes, and he was the captain of Sampdoria too. He just left for Pistoiese at the end of his carreer but came back as a coach of the youth teams.
Lippi has never forgotten his past, he has often been noticed at Marassi and often visited Bogliasco. I respect him for what he did some years ago. We were in serie B but we had to face Juventus in the Italian Cup at Turin. After half a hour or so we were already 1-4 and Juventus scored one more goal before the end of the first half. At this point Lippi said to his players "No more goals" (the images of TV clearly showed his waves). And Juventus did not score more goals, in the second half Sampdoria even scored the 2-5, a score heavy but not so heavy as it could be. Infact I believe that Juventus could easily score 10 goals that night if they had pushed.

 

[ToniSamp]

Some legendary goals
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9yriRMNEq4&mode=related&search=

 

[ToniSamp]

Another legend: Trevor Francis :hopeful:
http://it.youtube.com/watch?v=TNAEnV3WVQo

 

[ToniSamp]

On the Wikipedia I have found his words: "L'unica cosa di cui non sono pentito, nella mia vita, e di essere diventato presidente della Sampdoria". What does it mean?

"Being the chairman of Sampdoria is the only thing I did not regret in my life".

And yes, Trevor Francis is one of my fav players ever, even if unfortunately I was too young to appreciate is class... and he was too many times injured. :undecide: BTW those shirts with Phonola as sponsor were fantastic, in particular the away kit, white with the vertical band. My fav kit ever.

 

[ToniSamp]

:hopeful:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GafsnmNzNJw

Sorry for Alvise Zago, whose carreer was ruined by an injury in this game, but you can clearly see that it was absolutely fortuitous (even if the supporters of Torino go on saying that Victor was a killer).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C524BPoB5Uw&NR=1

I was on the stands of Comunale with my father.

 

[ToniSamp]

If somebody interested.
Here are video of UEFA Cup Winners' Cup 1988-89 final with Barcelona
http://hosted.filefront.com/sporting61/2126966

Thank you :thumbsup:

 

[ToniSamp]

Des Walker was a big failure and indeed should not appear in that list. I think there should be one list for the famous players who hardly gave a contribution to Sampdoria (Klinsmann, Des Walker, Lee Sharpe...), while players like Stendardo and Caracciolo should simply be forgotten! p

 

[ToniSamp]

:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
I remember I was quarreling with everyone who was telling me Roberto Carlos is the best free kick taker in the world :tongue::eyepatch::strong:. I was telling them that Sinisa is much better .
Mihajlovic was incredibile because he was dangerous with any position and any range...I remember him trying to score the frick kick from midfield line ! :dielaugh::crazy:

Definitely. The FKs of Roberto Carlos could be spectacular, but the FKs of Mihajlovic were goals.

 

[ToniSamp]

Good article.

Let's see if Cerezo and Veron also share the destiny to win the Intercontinental Cup after returning home. It will be pretty difficult for Veron to defeat Barça though.