[Redhat Pellegrini]

During the Seville derby, Perez Burrul pointed out in his match report that he saw several fascist flags as well as nazi flags. he also pointed out that smoke canisters were thrown on to the pitch as well as firecrackers.

now i've heard this being the case in many other grounds, one being the Bernabeu, but this might the first time ive heard a referee point it out or maybe atleast it being reported in the media.

Marca kindly point out to its readers that the match was a success, everyone was happy as can be and rainbows were shining out of Lopera's ass. so not to worry, theres nothing wrong here at all...according to Marca anyway.

this isnt political i hope, well it kind of is, but im just alluding to the fact that there are people willing to stamp this out from spanish football which is good to see.

http://www.marca.com/edicion/marca/futbol/1a_division/betis/es/desarrollo/1167432.html

 

[Redhat Pellegrini]

yeah you're spot on. according to the rest of the article some "competition commity" will look at this report then decide if anything needs to be done.

Betis have not even served their home stadium ban from last season. barca never served their ban earlier this millenium and got away with it. i remember madrid playing osasuna and casillas was showered with objects, nothing came of that. a thousand teams have gotten away with silly 300 euro fines for racist abuse (there is not a single club in the primera liga who is not guilty of this).

 

[Redhat Pellegrini]

what are the social condition in spain that makes this possible...

and what social group do the people come from

and i bet they dont think theres anything wrong with what they're doing. or what could be worse but the likely option is they dont even understand what they're doing.

i mean you have the flags, you have the monkey chants, you have the nazi salutes (lazio-madrid in the CL not that long ago just for a quick example). ok theyre not grouped under the same category, that's why ive come to understand that sometimes the monkey chants arent intended to cause racial vilification, but are born out of sheer stupidity in that that's the only way they can rile up the player.

but the nazi and fascist circus, are the people taking part knowledgeable of all this? i mean as Che asked are they part of groups, political parties, some type of movement? who are they? or they merely thugs or braindead morons and are just clueless to the acts of stupidity they commit.

and Maxi, what numbers are you speaking of when you talk about people taking part? like a large section of the crowd or just a few dozen?

 

[Redhat Pellegrini]

cheers for the K4, you're insight is greatly appreciated.