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I heard over on Five Live (the Beeb) on Wednesday and was quite surprised to hear Spoony as well as a few callers talk about Kenny Dalglish giving a hint that he might make his second coming back to Anfield. However, when I checked out some sites, there were not many news on this development.

If King Kenny were to return to Liverpool, I have mixed feelings about this since (a) his record in management since leaving Liverpool more than ten years ago had been dismal (his tenure at Blackburn, which brought the Premiership trophy to Ewood Park, was noted for how he spent lavishly on players), and (b) he can be blamed for making a major contribution in Liverpool's downfall after the Fagan years. In fact, an Arsenal caller and a Newcastle fan all expressed their opinion that if he were to go back to LFC, he would turn us further into a mediocre club like Tottenham.

Granted he might bring in fresh ideas and stuff, but I fear that after being out of management for so long, he might have lost his touch.
 

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he was the start of Liverpool's demise IMO,he couldn't fail with the team he inherited but within a couple of years the cracks started showing and he jumped ship. ;)

his success at Ewood came down to one great signing,Alan Shearer,if United would have got him instead,Blackburn would have been lucky to make top three.
 
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Unless he's brought in NOW and leaving in the summer, to be replaced by Mourinho or some1 like that, then sorry Kenny, but you're not wanted.

I was reading teletext last night, and on page 546 they have letters from people about sports, And some muppet wrote in saying "I know i speak for every Liverpool fan when i saw, bring back King Kenny", what a tool!
 

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I'd rather keep the memories I have of him than for him to come back in and face the abuse he'd get as soon as things didn't go quite right for him these days.

Don't do it Kenny!
 

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than for him to come back in and face the abuse he'd get as soon as things didn't go quite right for him these days.
if your suggesting that Liverpool fan is a shallow entity these days then your not exactly correct. Patience that Liverpool fans have shown towards Houllier is a rare phenomena in modern football, when it's no longer just football clubs but multimillion businesses that are at stake. All the manager needs to do to avoid abuses is to make sure his team plays decent football, be honest with fans and players, and if things go wrong for quite a while then he should admit his inability to fix the problems and let somebody else to try to improve on what he has achieved. That's why NONE of the previous managers got the abuse gh is getting. They simply didn't let it happen. Instead of turning corners while circling around the same city block, instead of trumpling on the same spot they did the most reasonable decision - they simply left. Had Souness stayed for another season and played the same kind of poor football that his team were playing, and had he given no indication that he's planning to leave I'm not so sure some kind of graffiti wouldn't been sprayed somewhere in the red half of the city.

In any other country gh would've been escorted to an airport by a police in a car with the bulletproof windows long time ago. Liverpool is one of the few places in the world (and certainly are the only club with big name) where a manager of gh quality can safely walk the streets of the city.

Doesn't mean, gh, though, that you have to abuse that patience year after year. Everything comes to and end, and it's still in your hand to make sure that end is swift and safe.
 

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about Kenny's return i have mixed feeling. on one hand i kinda agree with what you, guys, saying about the demise, but on the other, i know it takes a special kind to take over a team that's one of the best in the world and keem them there (and even better that at one point) for 5 years... One thing that nobody can deny is that his brain knows, or at least used to, how to play great football.
 

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RazorUK said:
I'd rather keep the memories I have of him than for him to come back in and face the abuse he'd get as soon as things didn't go quite right for him these days.

Don't do it Kenny!
Hi Andy,

I don't think our issue with Kenny returning would be the abuse.. If anything, it was u who pointed out how the decline started and why.. and under which manager.. remember? Actually, i think Kenny would come back with the club and fans having their arms wide open to receive him.. He's a legend.. both as a player and a manager (his record speaks for itself regardless of how he ran the organization)..

I for one don't want Dalglish returning.. Football has moved a lot sinced the days Rush, Beardsley and Barnes were on the pitch scoring for Kenny's side.. Football management has changed a lot.. and financials have become key factors.. With all that, British managers have just started waking up and understanding that with the slow rise (which is the right way IMO) of Moyes, Curbishley and Strachan.. When u look at us.. a team with lots of potential and qualities but with no confidence and the pressure of expectations on our shoulders.. we simply need a manager who's an excellent motivator AND tactitian too.. I think Kenny and Martin O'Neill would solve the first part of our needs.. but certainly not the second.. and I think Dalglish proved that with both Newcastle and Celtic..

In other words, I don't see Dalglish as the manager to bring Liverpool back to where they should be..
 

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Kenny comes back tomorrow............... 5 years from now despite winning a couple of cups here and there we are stilll nowhere near the title.............................Abuse will happen.

The game has changed, the fans have changed and the sentimentality he'd be awarded on his return would fade if he didn't perform the miricale we all want.

Don't want to have to go through that with Kenny. Whilst I think the decline started under him, I have better memories than bad, if he came back that might well change........
 

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RazorUK said:
Kenny comes back tomorrow............... 5 years from now despite winning a couple of cups here and there we are stilll nowhere near the title.............................Abuse will happen.

The game has changed, the fans have changed and the sentimentality he'd be awarded on his return would fade if he didn't perform the miricale we all want.

Don't want to have to go through that with Kenny. Whilst I think the decline started under him, I have better memories than bad, if he came back that might well change........
I think we all (well most of us who were there at the time) have better memories than bad about Kenny.. Actually, it was hard to say anything wrong about him at the time as the side was dominating all in sight (whether when he was a player or manager).. I believe the Souness days were when we started feeling what happened..

Going back to the abuse part, so what I understand is that to Liverpool, winning the title has become a miracle?! Sorry I disagree to that, we have a quality side, which needs a few additions (major ones though) and U turn in confidence.. and frankly, a change of manager at the moment.. Our side last year was considered the most equipped to win the league considering our squad depth and our progress.. how did that change to it being a miracle for us to win the title?

I agree with your third paragraph that I don't want to go through what we went through with GH with Kenny again.. or any Liverpool legend.. simply as u said, I want the good memories to remain.. and to be honest, I don't see any of the Liverpool legends up to the standard of management that we need..

Finally, if we do change manager, and he spends 5 years.. with the team not progressing (style, results and trophies).. then Yes, I do expect he'd get abuse.. if he's Kenny, Rushie or Howard Kendall (God forbid).. U are right, football has changed and so have expectations by both board and fans.. I think that's good.. if u get a sales manager, and he doesn't acheive his target for 5 years running but get a few breakthrough results in side projects.. do u keep him? I don't think I would.
 

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Dalglish to return in a caretaker position before making way for a class coach in the summer and step back to a head coach position which I think which should be his best position in the club.

I think Dalglish is a terrific coach who knows how to make a team play excellently and get the best out of players. His transfer record will start well before decending into absymal and shocking. And there is a matter of his stress level and he makes some funny managerial decisons here and there, he will do well in a place like Italy or Spain where he is just given a team to handle instead of an all rounder we expect our manager to be in England.

But Mourinho (or some other class coach) + Dalglish would be a class act.
 

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so what I understand is that to Liverpool, winning the title has become a miracle?!
Not what I meant at all Yasir:) Just a poor choice of words from myself is all.:D
 
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RazorUK said:
Kenny comes back tomorrow............... 5 years from now despite winning a couple of cups here and there we are stilll nowhere near the title.............................Abuse will happen.

you can't compare one of the true greats of the game, to Hooflier. No matter what, Kenny is an Anfield legend, Hooflier is not.
 

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Kenny isnt a Anfield legend in my eyes, leaving because of stress etc is fine but then to be in the hotseat again 5 minutes later was a kick in the guts.And ofcourse he's got "unfinished business" as he refers to, but he shouldnt get a chance to finish it.
 

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Kenny isnt a Anfield legend in my eyes, leaving because of stress etc is fine but then to be in the hotseat again 5 minutes later was a kick in the guts.And ofcourse he's got "unfinished business" as he refers to, but he shouldnt get a chance to finish it.
Hi KOTK..

Well I think managing Liverpool and then his managing stint with Blackburn are two totally seperate things..

From what I've read, Hillsborough left a bad mark on Kenny which he simply couldn't shrug off.. all the players saw that clearly and Ronnie Moran later hinted that it had a lot to do with his resignation..

On the other hand, Blackburn were a very tempting 'project'.. Jack Walker's money was available and in lumpsums.. All he had to do was buy and play (ala plug and play ;)).. and see if he can buy a promotion then championship winning side.. No history connecting him to the club.. nothing close to what he had with Liverpool as a club or fans either.. A lot like Keegan's stint as Director of Football with Fulham (when they were in Div 2)

He needed a break.. to kinda calm himself down.. get over what was bugging him.. and then came back..

I don't know if u were there during the glory days.. but kenny was actually one of the reasons I started supporting Liverpool (at the age of 4 :)).. And from what I've seen and read, was (arguably) the best No. 7 we've had (with Keegan).. :proud:
 
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King of the Kop said:
Kenny isnt a Anfield legend in my eyes, leaving because of stress etc is fine but then to be in the hotseat again 5 minutes later was a kick in the guts.And ofcourse he's got "unfinished business" as he refers to, but he shouldnt get a chance to finish it.
Of course he's an Anfield legend, as a player and as a manager.
 

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And from what I've seen and read, was (arguably) the best No. 7 we've had (with Keegan).. :proud:
Not just that he's arguably the best player we've ever had.:star:

Dalglish will remain a legend always in my eyes. I don't want to see him come back because I don't want that status tarnished.
 

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Of course he's an Anfield legend, as a player and as a manager.
As i say, in my eyes.Player/Manager whatever, Kenny Dalglish as a person walked out of a club in mourning for legitimate reasons at the time but then got lured by th dosh to Blackburn which to me is a huge dissapointment and blackmark against his name.
 

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Hi KOTK..

Well I think managing Liverpool and then his managing stint with Blackburn are two totally seperate things..

From what I've read, Hillsborough left a bad mark on Kenny which he simply couldn't shrug off.. all the players saw that clearly and Ronnie Moran later hinted that it had a lot to do with his resignation..

On the other hand, Blackburn were a very tempting 'project'.. Jack Walker's money was available and in lumpsums.. All he had to do was buy and play (ala plug and play ;)).. and see if he can buy a promotion then championship winning side.. No history connecting him to the club.. nothing close to what he had with Liverpool as a club or fans either.. A lot like Keegan's stint as Director of Football with Fulham (when they were in Div 2)

He needed a break.. to kinda calm himself down.. get over what was bugging him.. and then came back..

I don't know if u were there during the glory days.. but kenny was actually one of the reasons I started supporting Liverpool (at the age of 4 :)).. And from what I've seen and read, was (arguably) the best No. 7 we've had (with Keegan).. :proud:
Excellent post, Yasir, completely agree. The situations at Liverpool and Blackburn weren't linked, it's harsh to put a black mark against his name because he returned at Rovers. As Yasir said, he didn't resign because of the pressures of top flight football managing, but because of the specific pressures at Liverpool, which were directly related to Hillsborough. In effect he didn't necessarily want to get away from football altogether, although he did want a break, but more the burden of the Hillsborough disaster and you can't blame him for that.

Also, it wasn't as if he had been tapped up by Blackburn and resigned before immediately taking the job there the next day. Wasn't he out of the game for the best part of a year before he came back to Blackburn?

_Eight_Ball_, Dalglish and Barnes are two of my three favourite Liverpool players ever, even though my memories of the former playing in the flesh are hazy at best. :) If that worked out successfully there wouldn't be much better for fans, but judging from their record at Celtic it wouldn't. :(
 

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Not just that he's arguably the best player we've ever had.:star:
Debatable, Andy :) I'm more of a Rush fan (have always had a soft spot for him).. still believe he's the best finisher I've ever seen..

Although he looked really weird when he shaved the moustache.. I thought he'd lose his balance and fall down :tongue:

I think in general I have a soft spot towards the team that was playing at the end of the 80s.. Beardsley, Aldridge, Rush, Barnes, Nicol, Hansen, Grobelaar and so on.. cuz that's when I was actually growing up (7-10 years old).. :)
 
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