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Well, there are several things to put in context. I don't think that there's a general crisis in our football and you have to go to each particular case to find the causes of the failures of the Spanish teams in Europe.

In the Champions League, Barcelona are alive (let's see for how long though). The cases of Real Madrid and Sevilla aren't strange to me. Real Madrid lost against Roma in their worst moment of the season. Real Madrid are getting good results in La Liga, but it's also true that their football isn't that good lately and they had important injuries. It's not a secret that not even the madridista press thought that this Real Madrid could go very far in the Champions League. Anyway, Real Madrid should have won their game against Roma.

Sevilla's elimination was the perfect example of their season. They're able of the best and the worst. Sevilla mix good moments of football, as in the last 3 seasons, with stupid defensive mistakes... it happened to them in Europe and La Liga. Not surprising to me either.

Valencia were (are?) a mess during a long part of the season. Their failure in Europe is their failure in Spain. Is it surprising?

Similar analysis could be done about the UEFA Cup teams. So, at the end, I think it's the reflection of the state of the Spanish teams... not in Europe, but also in the domestic competitions. They're competitive, able to win anyone, but they also look very irregular, each one in their level. You can't say that there's any remarkable team in Spain.

The players are good enough, but each club with their circumstances explain the European failure.

For me, the most worrying is the future. Barcelona and Madrid are safe, because their size protects them. But the upper-mid class will have a problem competing with the English clubs, because things in Spain are awfully done by the RFEF and the LFP. The battle of the TVs, the hours of the games, etc.. Everything is a mess and the consequences of it will appear soon.

I don't think there's a general crisis in our football. I don't think there's a reason to panic. But things should start to change and soon.
 

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La Liga in crisis? No, on the contrary, I think La Liga has improved a lot(though, probably not over last season) and still is the strongest league. People speak of CL and how impressive EPL are having all 4 teams remaining in CL, credit to them, but 4 teams does not make a league. And they have no equivalent outside top 4 to sides like Atletico Madrid and Villareal. Then we move on to mid tables and lower tables of EPL, which are a long way from La Liga's standard imo.

A lot of things has to be right for a team to go far in CL. And as Koeman4 said, a lot of things weren't for the spanish sides, especially Valencia who are a complete disaster
 

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Right, I agree with that.

I think the biggest stat for me was that 6 of 7 Spanish teams in Europe won their group, with Valencia just completely falling in last place.
 

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On what basis should we think La Liga is in crisis? I'd like to point out that 3 of the last 4 European champions have been Spanish clubs (Barcelona in CL '06 and Sevilla in '06 and '07, against another Liga team, Espanyol). And the other was Italian, not from the EPL, the league that is supposedly the best in the world (not for me).
 

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We're going to lose that long held top spot on the Uefa coefficients pretty soon though, what with English clubs on a rampage in the Champions League. It's entirely without significance (unless you drop out of the top 3) but still...like Koeman said, maybe not today but there are probably problems on the horizon.

Success at the highest level can only come with stability, only Barca has any of the bigger clubs in Spain. Or Sevilla had some prior to this season. No surprise they're the only successful teams of late.
 

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On what basis should we think La Liga is in crisis? I'd like to point out that 3 of the last 4 European champions have been Spanish clubs (Barcelona in CL '06 and Sevilla in '06 and '07, against another Liga team, Espanyol). And the other was Italian, not from the EPL, the league that is supposedly the best in the world (not for me).
I'm in agreeance that La Liga is not going to crash and burn. But many out there think are yelling like the Hindenburg is going down.
 
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