Haven't really been paying attention, have you? Saying he's past his best and isn't good enough for Juve anymore is fair enough but trying to discredit his best moments is quite sad, Ze.Ze da Fiel said:Did he ever reach the top?
Always been crap in my book.
numerodix said:That's right, at Euro96 Sacchi gave him 45 minutes. During France98 he was carrying an injury and never played well and at Euro2000 he was kept on the bench all the time, but when he did play he played well but then noone remembers that because he missed two sitters in the final. CL final 96 he missed a couple of shots, yes.
So that sums up his whole career, does it? 3 tournaments of a combined duration of about 90 days + one match = 12 years of professional soccer?
It's no secret that his international career has been unspectacular but at least in the 97/98, when Juventus won the league title and lost the CL final, he was widely regarded as the best player in the league (with Ronaldo), tipped to win European player of the year and scored 32 goals. That was his peek, he's never matched it since.
Well... he was possibily the best player in Europe for some publications in 96. HOwever, Mathias Sammer got an award and so did Ronaldo.numerodix said:So being the best player in Europe for one season is crap? Well then there aren't many players out there who aren't crap.
I'm talking about 1998 in case you didn't notice. In 98, Zidane was Fifa World player of the year and won the Golden Ball thanks to the World Cup victory.Ze da Fiel said:Well... he was possibily the best player in Europe for some publications in 96. HOwever, Mathias Sammer got an award and so did Ronaldo.
In Brazil, 96 was the year of Rivaldo, which IMO he was better than what Ronaldo was in Barcelona.
Oh really? And what the hell has Owen done? He won the Uefa Cup and a couple of Mickey Mouse trophies in 1999, one season wonder then?Ze da Fiel said:In XT many people don't reate Michael Owen (I rate him a lot ) . And he was the best European player in 2001, and many people think he is not all that.
Well let's see.. 12 seasons at Juventus, Baggio was sold in his favor because club officials believed he could be just as good or better, played 428 matches, scored 171 goals (3rd highest all time club scorer), won 5 league titles etc. But I suppose you consider that just carrying dead weight?Ze da Fiel said:Del Piero has never been nothing special for him. I still can't understand all the hype around him, specially after all the seasons he has done nothing. It's been 8 years since 97, and he still is starting for a club of the magnitude of Juventus. Quite surprising if you ask me!