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One of the best fullbacks Europe ever had. Almost equally good with both feet, fantastic free-kick taker. I have hardly seen anyone discuss him. Heck, people even discuss Ashley Cole!
 

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that is called the power of justice :tongue:, he is cursed since that illegitimate penalty in the WC90 final. I wondered why nobody was ready to take penalty at that moment.
 

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What a fantastic reason you came up with, you genius!

What about Maradona's 2 handballs, one in '86 & another against Romania in 1990?

As for taking the penalty, anybody could have taken it, Germans never miss penalties, you saw it in 2006 also.
 

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What a fantastic reason you came up with, you genius!

What about Maradona's 2 handballs, one in '86 & another against Romania in 1990?

As for taking the penalty, anybody could have taken it, Germans never miss penalties, you saw it in 2006 also.
George would shout! serenityyyyy noooooow!

and Sorc, where is justice when Moreno, Pedernera and cia were as good or better than Di Stefano, but are almost unknown...how many Uruguayan legends are recognized?


About the penalty, damn that was a great shot by Andreas
 

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What a fantastic reason you came up with, you genius!

What about Maradona's 2 handballs, one in '86 & another against Romania in 1990?

As for taking the penalty, anybody could have taken it, Germans never miss penalties, you saw it in 2006 also.
there is something called humor, my nick should have reminded u that at least.

and yes, Mathhaus refused to take the penalty, he was Germany's regular penalty taker.
 

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I love andreas Brehme. I've seen him coaching my team and i've seen him playing in my team and i know him personally. He's really underrated, but for me he's a legend.
 

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Another name to consider: Julio Cesar Benitez

Died tragically at 28, but was an absolute torpedo for Barca in the 60's.
 

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What's Brehme doing these days? A scout at Stuttgart was last I heard.

Anyways, he's a champion. Great in defence, great in attack and a genuine leader.

All time favourite players definitely.
 

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George would shout! serenityyyyy noooooow!

and Sorc, where is justice when Moreno, Pedernera and cia were as good or better than Di Stefano, but are almost unknown...how many Uruguayan legends are recognized?


About the penalty, damn that was a great shot by Andreas
I think we should come up with a thread for underrated legends(and I mean genuine legends) & make it sticky.

Yep, that penalty was fantastic, given the situation, incidentally Brehme struck it with his weaker right foot.
 

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Those who have seen Brehme play will rate him highly. So yes, he is underrated for that reason, because how many people on this form alone for example have even seen him play? If they had they would rate him highly for sure. More a case of lack of exposure than being underrated. Same goes for what Fangio said. Example - I doubt very many posters here have seen Enzo Francescoli play much and for that reason he may seem underrated, but it's just a vast lack of exposure in comparison to other talents of that time. In the most extreme cases, well I have friends who hadnt really heard of Garrincha and yet still are adamant that Cristiano Ronaldo is surely the better winger. I need new friends.

What makes the mind boggle is when you have truly underrated players like how Claude Makelele was once perceived. The guy didnt receive near enough praise during his time at Real Madrid (which can in no way be down to a lack of exposure) but the moment he leaves the overall opinion of him increases dramatically (that is lack of exposure...of Real Madrid's defence).
 

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Bland player. Had a bit of shooting ability to his game but was decidedly mediocre in most aspects. If they just had slotted in some other jerry in the teams he played in no one would have noticed. Can we move on from discussing mullet-sporting pornstar lookalikes now? What's next, Karl-Heinz Rumennigge? The name alone reminds of some twisted junker trying to carve away his own slab of empire somewhere in Silesia in the early 1920s. So please **** off with your German 'players'.
 

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Here comes the druggie again. Why this loser is allowed to post in this forum only God knows. Not a single constructive post from this clown.


And, judging a player by his name is something only a retarded person would do.
 

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George would shout! serenityyyyy noooooow!

and Sorc, where is justice when Moreno, Pedernera and cia were as good or better than Di Stefano, but are almost unknown...how many Uruguayan legends are recognized?
Game of football was invented in late 1950s, didn´t you know it ? :D

People seems to be forgetting on purpose. Uruguay legends played football mostly before the WWII (1920s, 1930) or short after (1950). For mostly of nowadays giants it´s something like dark age of football because they were regularly raped on pitch by Hungarians, Czechs, Swiss or Austrians. Yea believe me, some things are better to forget.
 

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@ Andy Brehme: he will be always remembered as a great free-kick taker. During my stay in Germany some 7 years ago I´ve met him on opening ceremony of new metro line in Stuttgart/Filderstadt i asked him to autograph his player´s card like some bloody glory hunter :D
 

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For a footballer that played before the web age to be able to have his value duly recognised, he would have needed to have something that Mullet Brehme never had - flair. That is why he is not that highly rated, and rightly so.
 

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What makes the mind boggle is when you have truly underrated players like how Claude Makelele was once perceived. The guy didnt receive near enough praise during his time at Real Madrid (which can in no way be down to a lack of exposure) but the moment he leaves the overall opinion of him increases dramatically (that is lack of exposure...of Real Madrid's defence).
Makelele is not overated, he is just a limited player running for others. People created the myth that the failure of galacticos was because of his departure. They forgot that at some point Real Madrid was leading with a good advantage the Spanish league, in the semifinals of CL and in the final of Spanish Cup. Without or with Makelele, even using that really open team. Then what Happened was ; Ronaldo Got injuried. A suicide team needs his personality and efficiency and even so, the failure of that team was losing a penalty kick against Juve and being defeated by Deportivo in a 3-2 game. How close after the end of galacticos Real got of such numbers. Then people blame it all to Makelele departure and not the fact that any team needs time to get impressive result and that team, based on the will of players and their talent almost got it. Their players are very tired because they had always to play and Ronaldo got injuried, that is why they failed. Makelele, bleargh.
 

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Limited as an overall player? He sure is...but as a DM? He was World Class at his peak and very important in Real's success. The whole downfall of Real Madrid post-Makelele shouldnt be put solely on his departure, but it certainly was crucial. In a side as attacking as the early 00's Real was, the greater the importance of having that balance of a DM of his ability.

I think the whole thing about him being limited is a little overexaggerated and quite irrelevant. If you can fulfil a role with consistent excellence, which he did as a DM, then everything else is a little superfluous. He didnt need to show (or possess) dribbling or shooting ability.

You make a good point about Ronaldo, which I may add further strengthens my point - if you take an integral and influential player out of a side, it's going to suffer if the replacement cant fulfil that void.
 
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