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How long does it take Arg win World Cup

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I think there's no problem for Argentina to be among the top five in the world, but they're still far from being the champion of World Cup, at least teams like Brazil and the Netherlands are a little bit greater than them in my opinion. :)

Argentina has no doubt a world-class midfield but their defence really worries me. Many think that Argentina got a good defence or even the best in South America. It seems that other teams usually don't score much from them. But why? It's just because they have good midfielders to control the game. The domination of the games of their midfield entirely covers the weaknesses of the defence and very seldom will the defenders experience real test.

Their performances in the recent two games with England (WC98 & Friendly2000) have led to the rise of two strikers of the opponent, Owen and Heskey. Before the game with Argentina, Owen is solely a young player and not noted. However, after scoring that brilliant goal, his reputation rised a hundred times but why he can't score as brilliantly when facing other teams? That's due to the fact that the defence of Argentina is not that firm, so when facing fast strikers, their loopholes will be exposed. There's no assurance for them to beat others with dangerous raid power or fast forward. Just recall how they were eliminated by Romania in WC94 and how panic they were when facing England in WC98, then you will know why. :) :)

Chamot is the only defender who I think is okay in the current team. Sensini is experienced but also old and slow. He can't stop strikers with high speed like Owen and Overmars. Generally, their defence is simply overrated and with the current defence, Argnetina is not capable to win the WC. :(

Regarding the forward, I like Argentina¡¦s traditional centre break style of attacking but they lack strikers like Rivaldo, Amoroso, Kluivert, and Van Nistelrooy who have great breakthrough abilities and are good assistants of their partners and these qualities are what Batistuta, Crespo and Palermo lacked. They are so weak in dribbling and passing and always depend on members' passing. :(

This is the lineup that in my opinion can win the World Cup!! :) :) :) :) :) :) :)

GK <Searching>
DF <Searching>--<Searching>--Chamot--<Searching>(Zanetti)
MF Redondo(Almeyda)
MF Veron--Gallardo :)(Aimar/Kily)
MF Ortega(Gallardo)
FW <Searching>--<Searching>


[This message has been edited by 4-4-2 (edited 08-06-2000).]
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What a pathetic argument by you (4-4-2). First, since when Holland is better than Argentina?!! Argentine players lack the skill Netherlands' players posses. Is that smart of you to say that. I don't get it. Holland has never won a world cup, let alone they are always rated less favorite than Argentina to win the world cup! Holland can't actually field a second team, when they do they always fail! Argentine players always have better skills and imagination than Holland's players. Anyway, who are those "great" dribblers in Holland National Team. Kluivert, why didn't he show it against great teams like Argentina and Brazil! I didn't see that piece of skill from him. Overmars, oh yeah he only dribble in 1 on 1 situations, and only on wild space and on the wing (side of the field) now that is a "great" dribbler argentina is missing?!!!!!!!!
Anyway when Holland produces players better technically than Argentina, then you can start this argument again.

Think of Ortega, Gonzalez, Aimar, Gallardo, Riquelme, Saviola, Redondo and even left-back Placente…etc all of them are more gifted than your Holland crap. By the way only davids can be compared to the Argentines.
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Again 4-4-2 your argument is weak?!! I mean what with this statistics?!! It's meaningless, every match is different, 'cause it depends on the form of the team, their opponents, their approach to the match…etc. you know that Argentina played many of their matches with their second and sometimes third team. Not to mention the last couple Copa America played with their second squad. How can you tell what they might done if … and don't forget about the chances they create but couldn't convert in many matches, you don't have the statistics to support that, don't you?
If you watch Holland- Argentina match back in march '99, you would see, for example, that in the first half Argentina embraced Holland by pressing them and keep them defending on their own half and in the front of their crowd! Argentina has the better and more chances than Holland, but they couldn't capitalize on them or they would win. Not to mention Argentina played some neat passing and show some great ball control and dribbling!
"Only strikers such as Rivaldo, Amoroso, Edmundo, Kluivert, Van Nistelrooy, Bergkamp..? and Raul are suitable for this style." Amoroso, what did he do for the national team! He didn't impress, not to mention he was dropped from the starting line-up because he simply sucks. Rivaldo isn't a striker!! Kluivert, Van Nistelrooy, and Bergkamp are piece of crap! How come you compare them to Batistuta, Crespo, and even Lopez! Batistuta is very good 1 on 1, you have to watch his goals again. Not to mention he is better on freekicks than any Netherlands player.

4-4-2 you may not know this, but dribbling and assisting from the strikers isn't the most important thing. Argentina will play as a team, not individuals. On individual bases they are much better than Holland, they are South Americans in the first place, and the most important thing is to posses a great technique. In the team, they want to combine a different types of players: skillful, imaginative, strong, powerful, speedy…etc
Argentina among the top 5! NO, they are the Second and by a slight margin to Brazil. Other teams are not better than Argentina. Holland, Spain, England, France are NO WAY better than Argentina. Trust me, anytime, anywhere, anyplace Argentina can beat them all and with no doubt.

Skills you can name Gustavo Lopez, Claudio lopez, Veron, Aimar, Saviola, Gallardo, Riquelme, placente, Redondo…etc all of the are more talented and posses better skills than Netherlands' players. Unfortunately, Argentina can't field all of them at the same time.
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