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I saw Korea's games against Poland, Portugal and Italy so far, and was enchanted by their collective power full of guts, inexhaustible staminna, speed, fluent flow of the ball, strong header. Frankly, watching these games completely changed my view on this team: only staminna and spirit.

Seoul Gi-Hyon, Ahn Jong-Hwan, Park Ji-Sung, Son Jong-Guk, Lee Young-Pyo and Kim Nam-Il impressed me more than others. I think Seoul, Son and Lee have enough ability to play in, like Premiership, but am I being ridiculous? Am I underestimating European soccer by saying like this? I hope not.

Park Ji-Sung might be difficult in Premiership in terms of physical strength, but refereeing seems to be getting more and more strict to bad fouls, so this tendency might be an advantage for players like Park. Does he lack something?

Lee Young-Pyo was a surprise for me. He is way better than Ichikawa, Japan's right wingback.
 

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WE CAN RATE THE REFEREE TOO AS A KOREAN PLAYER???

I THINK YES... IT WAS THEIR BEST PLAYER.
WHAT A SHAME ...:mad: :mad:


KOREAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE NO PROUD OF THIS "VICTORY".

EVEN WITH THESE REFEREES I CAN PLAY BASKETBALL WITH
THE BEST NBA TEAM AN EXPECT FOR A SURE WIN ... PUAGGG
 

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johan4ever said:
WE CAN RATE THE REFEREE TOO AS A KOREAN PLAYER???

I THINK YES... IT WAS THEIR BEST PLAYER.
WHAT A SHAME ...:mad: :mad:


KOREAN PEOPLE SHOULD BE NO PROUD OF THIS "VICTORY".

EVEN WITH THESE REFEREES I CAN PLAY BASKETBALL WITH
THE BEST NBA TEAM AN EXPECT FOR A SURE WIN ... PUAGGG
U are probably too hot on now.
I think Korean should be proud of their performance so far.
Maybe you should cool down and make a sensible comment.
Sour Grapes!
 

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As far as judging from VCR, one of the two disallowed goals by Spanish side was caused by linesman's misjudging. The ball was inside the line before the cross. The referees, esp. linesmen's level may be low compared to other big matches. It's a pity that so many harsh desisions were made for the Spain team.

Nonetheless I give credit to Korean football. Germany is a tough opponent, but with passionate supporters, Korea will beat them. I really hope to see them in Yokohama.
 

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Maybe I was too hot on my last post ... sorry about it ... but ...:mad:

Well, about Korea... they play great football , they have speed ,
concentration , and good skills, all this make a brilliant team ... but now a dark shadow is over them and people of other countries starts thinkig bad things about its performance after the games of Italy and Spain ...(and even Portugal).

All this that could 've been a shocking performance by Korean NT to the international eyes , has become a big DOUBT ( and i don't say that the referees get payed by Korea and all this bull**** , i think that it is FIFA's fault by putting a referee without experience is a quarterfinal with all that amiental pressure.)

I don't think Korea deserves to be in semifinals ... but you know ... that's football.

About the germany game : I wish the BEST team wins this time
the football needs it. Good luck to Germany and Korea.
 

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I am impressed with some of the Korean players.. Players like Park, Seoul, Lee and Yoo have impressed me... But I have to comment on one thing... Ahn J.H.. I dont find him really that good as other people have rated him.. Firstly, yes he did score in this world cup... But that does not make him a star in this cup.. He has been pretty ordinary in my opinion.. Secondly, I saw him play in Perugia in some games this season.. I have to say that his performance was pretty awful... If Perugia sack him for this reason that he played badly for the club, I have to agree with that..

For the match against Germany, I hope that Koreans would win without the help of the referee.. But if really have to compare, I think Germany is still much stronger.. They are more experienced and more disciplined..
 

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Well, it is difficult to rate the Korean player, that's cos they have no star in their team, just a TEAM! When I thought, wo! One guy impressed me much, the next one is almost as good as he is. That's what makes them so fun to watch, and since there's no star, there's no primma-donnas in the making too.

A couple that caught my attention, their captain. He's good, he showed an excellent leadership. The guy that scored against Portugal, and wow! great display of skill against Conceicao. And of course, Ahn Jung-Hwan, he was really good against Poland, creating chance after chance, and ppl reckon he's a star, he was prolly the nearest primma-donna ever to come out of Korea.

But he's not. He passed to his teammates, he encouraged them. And that's what the whole Korean's team are doing, and what else can I say, Gus Hiddink had done wonder to see this type of team advanced so far.

ciao!
 

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Ahhhhhhhhhhhh!!! River!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :eek: Where have ya been girl?????????




Okay, back to topic. :tongue:
 

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The guy that scored the goal against Portugal is Park Ji-Sung, belonging to Kyoto Purple Sanga in J-league. He is not so much as fantastic as team's dynamo, so I'm surprised by his performance in this WC. Probably he'll move to Europe after WC.

Korea, unlike Japan, is tough in terms of header, so if they can manage to prevent Germany from delivering many good crosses, they can fight even.

As River says Korea is good as a team but there are no prominent talents, that may be so, but some players are young, so they have promising future, I think.

PS Both Spain and Italy are good teams, no doubt about it, but maybe next time!
 

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I fully agree with River (hi ct, where have ya been?) on this matter.
Korean players in individual skill are "nothing" if we compare them to other top teams players. So, whatever rates we give to them must be lower than the rates we would give to other top teams players.

But this is football, this is a team game, not an individual game.As a team, they are better than any other teams they have beaten...
 

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I think that it is too easy to say that Korea is strong as a team but the single players are not good.
Some players impressed me for technique, above all Lee Young Pyo, who otfen showed some nice tricks.
Ahn Jung Hwan is very good and he also showed it sometimes in Italy with Perugia (very good shot).
I know some players who played for a long time in the J-League and they are also very good: Yoo Sang Chul, Hong Myung Bo, Hwang Sun Hong. I thought that Choi Yong Soo could play more.... but Korea has a lot of FW.
Park Ji Sung is also good.

I'm Italian and I was not so happy about the referee :mad: , but I think that it would be stupid to say that Korea just won because of the referee. Korea is a good team with good players.
 

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PROFILE Veteran Hong the great survivor

Monday 24th June 2002

by Duncan White

When South Korea's veteran sweeper Hong Myung-bo made his World Cup bow 12 years ago at Italy 1990, no less than five of this tournament's coaches were still playing for their respective national sides.

Srecko Katanec (Slovenia) and Mirko Jozic (Croatia) were team-mates with Yugoslavia, Alexandre Guimaraes was a substitute for Costa Rica, Mick McCarthy was shoring up the defence for the Republic of Ireland, while Rudi Voller had already started scoring the goals that would win Germany their third World Cup.

More than a decade later, Voller and Hong meet again (Voller was on the bench when Hong scored in Germany's 3-2 win over Korea in 1994), with a place in the World Cup final at stake.

It all seems so unlikely, for Korea and Hong.

Indeed, if one had been asked before the tournament which veteran defender of four World Cups would break records left, right and centre in 2002, the answer would surely have been obvious - and it wouldn't have been Hong.

After all, Paolo Maldini, the versatile Italian skipper already had Lothar Matthaus' World Cup appearance record in his sights, and if Giovanni Trapattoni's side had made it all the way to the final in Yokohama, he would have broken it.

But Italy crashed to Korea in the second round, and it is Hong who is now covering new ground.

Before this tournament began, South Korea had never won a World Cup finals game, and an Asian side had never gone further than the quarter-finals - North Korea in 1966.

Now, under the guidance of Guus Hiddink, they are on the cusp of the final itself.

This success has been founded on Hong. He is the team's libero and with 132 internationals behind him, exudes calm throughout the side.

Such is his sense of almost parental responsibility, that it was unsurprising to see him score the crucial penalty in the 5-3 shoot-out win over Spain in the quarter-final. It was an incredible moment.

"Yes, I was under a lot of pressure, I could feel the pressure. I was nervous because I was the last to go, so I was very happy to see it go in," he said.

"When I was a junior player I used to specialise in taking penalties. That's a long time ago now, but the feeling is still with me.

"Guus Hiddink told us to concentrate on accuracy, not power, and I think it worked because we scored with all our kicks."

He is confident of further success too, and believes victory over Germany is well within the team's grasp.

"It's just unbelievable that we won and that we're really going to the semis. It hasn't hit reality yet.

"As the tournament goes on and the team keep winning we feel we can beat any team, including Germany," he said after the exhausting slog against Spain.

"We're in a great mood but we are physically tired. I think we were able to win today because we still had good physical stamina and a great game strategy.

"As for Germany, we'll have to evaluate them but I think the more important thing is to improve.

"We regard the Seoul stadium as our home ground and everybody is looking forward to playing there. We have defeated Italy and Spain and if we play well we can get the same the result as before.

"We feel we can beat anyone if we play like we did against Italy and Spain. We're confident that we'll be going to Yokohama for the final."

Yet at one stage, Hong looked like missing out on the tournament entirely.

He was sidelined by injury for three months of the 2001-02 season with J-League side Kashiwa Reysol, and there were fears Hiddink had lost patience with his fitness problems when he was not selected for the Gold Cup in the US in January 2002.

To make things worse his deputy, Song Chong-gug, was impressive.

But, by this time, he had completed a mid-season transfer back to Pohand Steelers, the K-League club where he had initially made his name, and was quickly rehabilitated, impressing for both club and country before being confirmed as the squad captain for the World Cup itself.

This came as a relief to Korea's players and fans alike. While the nation had enjoyed little success in the previous World Cups, Hong has almost always shone on the big stage.

USA 1994 was an especial triumph. He scored in the commendable 2-2 draw with Spain, before finding the net again in a thrilling 3-2 defeat to Germany.

Despite only being 33-years-old and a sweeper (Matthaus played in the same position until he was 39), Hong insists that he will be retiring from international football after the tournament.

He will continue playing for Pohang Steelers until the end of the year, and then decide whether or not to take up coaching.

And, if he does, don't be surprised to find him following in the footsteps of the class of 1990 and soon coaching his country.

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Yo Stef! Bodat! hehehe...I'm still barely alive, can forget my beloved friends here :D Atm, race some Honda cars, lol! ok, ok, I dont, but fixing some cars and getting some spare parts for Honda, and here I am reviewing on Korea instead of Japan? oh gee... wonder what my boss will think about it. sshhh....

And it's kinda surprising to see Toni here, cos there was a general hatred towards the Korean in the Italian/ WC forums. But kudos on you Toni in giving some reviews on your own. And everybody too. *is still peeve when Italy lost, ggrrr....*

I agreed with Bodat in saying that in the end, football is a team game. the team that worked with one unit clinched it. And that's what the Koreans had done, IMHO. So, all the best of luck against Germany, it will be a difficult match, and for the first time in everyone's memory, nobody really zero the chance against this time. :eek

Oh gorusene, domo for the info. It's just, whenever there's a guy named Park, I quickly remember that legendary badminton player, hehehe...cant escape from that!

ciao!
 

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Yoo Song Chul impress mi. He play a typical Redondo role. He distribute the ball well in the centre mid. If opportunity arise, He will go forward to attack more. He score Korea second goal against Poland. He help up the defence as well. In the match against Italy, Hong Myung Bo, their captain was sub off and it was Yoo who step into his shoes and stop the italian from advancing. A very versatile type of player.
 

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this thread impresses me.:) here ppl rates korean team and their achievement fairly,different from on worldcup board,there's full of extreme,offensive and crazy.that's bothered me.:(

honestly i havent check korean individual or the teamplay very clearly.the spain loss frustrated me then.:frustrat: be calm and something changes my mind now.i start to accept korean upstanding work.i wish them good luck tonite.this match will be a expecting.

i notice something interesting.the korean performance leads to different attitude in whole asia.as friends say in the south east asia the media looks appreciate and adore korea so much;while in my country (China) the media looks european thinking.payoff, conspiracy.i feel ridiculous.:tongue:
 

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River, where did you learn the word "domo"? :) Maybe from your friend, coz it's a bit casual way of expressing gratitude. BTW, there are millions of Parks (I'm not exagerrating it!), Kims, Chois. That's why Korean names are officially called in three units, like Park Ji-sung.

Zac, I have a little different opinion about Yoo Song-chul's style. He is actually a versatile type of player-he can play any positions except goalie-but not especially good at delivering the ball. It's his physical toughness, especially strong header and tough defense that makes him essential. But he may have performed better than he usually does for his J-league team. Anyways I'm glad he did himself justice and a lot of people are now highly evaluating him.

Turkey vs. Korea was the most exciting match I've ever watched! Korean supporters were amazing, so do players! I really admire Koreans for being so passionate.

i notice something interesting.the korean performance leads to different attitude in whole asia.as friends say in the south east asia the media looks appreciate and adore korea so much;while in my country (China) the media looks european thinking.payoff, conspiracy.i feel ridiculous.
Interesting finding!
 
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