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guardiola still plays for barca, you know barcelonistas? :confused: ;)

guardiola did never leave you alone. the legendary barcelonista is always with you. he does still play for you. i could find guardiola in xavi! :stuckup: :devil:

it is not that fair to compare a normal with a legend. but you can't deny the efforts xavi has been paying so far and he deserves more now. in my mind, xavi is the most representative player for you beside puyol. :D i believe you need these two most for the rebuild. they can contribute more in the near future.

imo, xavi steps closer and closer to guardiola from time to time. this young guy actually has improved a lot. the most obvious one is in his free kicks that its accuracy gets much better since this season. and his pace is great without doubt. moreover, it can't be better anymore that he did face failure that some barcelonistas once objected him, the coach benched him for some time for his poor performance. to learn from failure and mistakes was always necessary for a guy who had been over-confident. now he is already reborn while most of the other young spaniard, such as gabri, gerard and navarro, fail to prove themselves. of course, he still has a long way to go. to make it perfect, what he should do about his defeat in leadership is to keep on doing the best every minute to get recognition from his teammates. best wist anyway. i like humble characters. i like spaniard. i like xavi! ;)

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No, if you see both players, Guardiola was much better than Xavi. Guardiola controlled the ball befora of the match. He knew what he wanted to do with the ball before having the ball. He directed the team, his mind to play football was clear. When Guardiola played well, the whole team was a perfect machine.

Xavi is good, but he's not Guardiola, he has other skills. He arrives more easily to the box and perhaps his shoots on goal are better. But Xavi likes to retain the ball more than Guardiola, Guardiola was faster constructing the game. Xavi is not the same, still good, but not the same.

Xabi Alonso, the Real Sociedad player, is more similar to Guardiola, when he's fit. He has the same skill to make his team play, but he must be more consistent.
 

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Pep was our symbol, legend :star: Xavi would be a star. He is playing in high level but he isnt making 'magic' things, he cant do such fantastic passes as Guardiola did :star: He controls well ball, but it isnt Peps control :D I also like him, but he has full stupid, very easy situations when he cant shoot goal - see sunday's game against Osasuna - he was 7 m in front of the goal and he cant score...:eek:
 

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Pep was our symbol, legend :star: Xavi would be a star. He is playing in high level but he isnt making 'magic' things, he cant do such fantastic passes as Guardiola did :star: He controls well ball, but it isnt Peps control :D I also like him, but he has full stupid, very easy situations when he cant shoot goal - see sunday's game against Osasuna - he was 7 m in front of the goal and he cant score...:eek:
Magic? Is it the same Guardiola we're talking about? "Pep" did everything easy. He never tried to complicate things and that was his strengh. He was also a big leader and had a huge impact and influence over his team mates. Guardiola the leader was impossible to replace, but Guardiola the player should have been easier to find a replacement for. Frankly becasue he wasn't playing as well as he used to during his last season/s. Xavi is good and I like the guy, but he can't fill out Guardiola's shoes. Iniesta can, he's a modern version of "Pep". A "Pep" who has pace, dares to dribble and knows how to finish the attacks.
 

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Magic? Is it the same Guardiola we're talking about? "Pep" did everything easy. He never tried to complicate things and that was his strengh. He was also a big leader and had a huge impact and influence over his team mates. Guardiola the leader was impossible to replace, but Guardiola the player should have been easier to find a replacement for. Frankly becasue he wasn't playing as well as he used to during his last season/s. Xavi is good and I like the guy, but he can't fill out Guardiola's shoes. Iniesta can, he's a modern version of "Pep". A "Pep" who has pace, dares to dribble and knows how to finish the attacks.
Yeah, his things made easy were for me 'magic' When i was writing it i was thinking about it :D :cool: :tongue:
 

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Iniesta can, he's a modern version of "Pep". A "Pep" who has pace, dares to dribble and knows how to finish the attacks.
That's true, I've seen more of Guardiola in Iniesta. In fact, Pep once said: "In the future, I will say that I had the pleassure of playing with Andres Iniesta", this was after a match with the B team with a young Iniesta of 16 years old.
 

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Im going to be bold and admit im not keen on Xavi, however his current performance cannot be undermined as he has been playing at a high level.

I dont see Pep in Xavi to be honest as he dwells too much in possession unlike Pep who would get rid of the ball quickly. When Lazio made that huge offer when Gaspart just come to presidency I really felt we should of sold him as we still had Guardiola and Gerard was bought (he was good at the time). I havent seen any progression in him since then.

Iniesta since I saw him first at 16 and been a keen follower ive always seen something in him. He has that uncanny ability to decide the play on the situation- dribble a few defenders in a position when there isnt anything on or play a quick throughball. But more importantly he does the simple things QUICKLY unlike Xavi. As Robban says hell be a modern day Pep and all he really lacks is Guardiola freekicks though he has the added ability of pace.
 

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Guardiola wasn't that superb on freekicks. He could only score from short distans once. I actually think that Xavi has more "power" in his freekicks. But who cares really? I mean doesn't Ronaldinho play for us!:proud:
 

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Guardiola wasn't that superb on freekicks. He could only score from short distans once. I actually think that Xavi has more "power" in his freekicks. But who cares really? I mean doesn't Ronaldinho play for us!:proud:
I thought he was quite good, better than Iniesta atleast. Xavi has an alrite freekick but his goal scoring ratio is poor. Atleast we got Ronaldinho as you say but hes not in the Beckham or Ricardinho class.
 

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Xavi is not good enough to lick Pep's boots in my opinion. He was pretty useless at free kicks but did score one amazing one from near the subs bench in La Coruña. It was just 2 matches after Cruyff's sacking and Rexach was in charge.
 

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it is a bit surprised that you don't rate xavi highly. i supposed most of you see him the next guardiola as someone in the thread about the match against osasuna mentioned about it. imo, his free kicks is already one of the best in la liga. though with poor goals scoring ratio, i can say his accuracy is high. :rolleyes: you should not ask xavi to tackle as tough as davids' as their uses are different.
 

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It is not relevant to compare the 2 players. They have different profyles

Xavi is one of the best corner -kickers ever. More goals came out from his corners than from anyone's lately. He is not DM, neither organizator of the type Guardiola was. He is a "passador de profundidad" and did some woderfull passes to Saviola. He is a good free-kicker, we do not have a specialist right now who can score 2 goals in a game from FK
In the present Barça he is one of the best

Davitts arrival can liberate him to play more advanced and contribute much more.

If you want to see the modern , young Guardiola-like player look at Andrea Pirlo.
 

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it is a bit surprised that you don't rate xavi highly. i supposed most of you see him the next guardiola as someone in the thread about the match against osasuna mentioned about it. imo, his free kicks is already one of the best in la liga. though with poor goals scoring ratio, i can say his accuracy is high. :rolleyes: you should not ask xavi to tackle as tough as davids' as their uses are different.
Xavi is good, I like him. His match in Pamplona was really good and he gave a great assist... but Guardiola was the best in his place in the world during years.
 

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I too like Xavi. He is good, though not as good as Guardiola but still has been doing ok. His assists have been amazing at times. But his short physique really hampers his game considering the position he plays.
 

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Talking about free kicks, corner kicks and lateral kicks. The best corner and "lateral kicks" taker of this squad is by far Xavi. Ronaldinho should never take those IMO. Also, freekicks from outside the box, the ones you take straight at goal should be taken by VB or Motta if they are for a left footed player and by Xavi or Ronaldinho if it is for a right footed player. I honestly don't get why Ronaldinho is allowed to take almost every free kick when he is just average in that department, well I know, we don't have a coach :D.
 

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xavi is still young, he's developing, maybe he'll become a leader one day. he's got an incredible rate of accurate passes - last season it was the best in la liga
 

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I am happy someone agrees with me about the FK and corners

I am also happy to see that Xavi is called to the NT after some time away

About VB' I do not want to see him do FK or anything, I do not like to see him in Barça instead of some real left lateral. (with all due respect)
 
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