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http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Squadra/Milan/primopiano/2005/marzo/22gattusopancaro.shtml

Dopo Roma-Milan i due rossoneri hanno rifiutato il controllo incrociato sangue-urine per la ricerca dell'Epo. Era un loro diritto, ma il caso fa discutere

ROMA, 22 marzo 2005 - Gattuso e Pancaro domenica sera hanno rifiutato il prelievo del sangue per il controllo incrociato con l’urina per la ricerca dell’Epo (l’eritropoietina sintetica: farmaco dopante). I due portieri della Roma Curci e Pipolo, invece, si sono sottoposti regolarmente al prelievo del sangue. Una figuraccia (e basta) dei due giocatori del Milan. Figuraccia che avrebbe fatto infuriare l’Assocalciatori e i responsabili dell’antidoping della Federcalcio. Anche perché Gattuso è consigliere dell’Aic e componente stabile della Nazionale di Lippi.

IL FATTO — Dopo Roma-Milan (0-2), domenica notte, i giocatori sorteggiati vengono informati, nella zona antidoping dell’Olimpico, di essere stati prescelti (2 per squadra) per il test sangue-urine. I due portieri della Roma firmano il modulo per il controllo e si sottopongono al test. Quando tocca a Gattuso e a Pancaro i due giocatori del Milan oppongono un chiaro «no» al prelievo del sangue, mentre urinano regolarmente nelle provette: prelievo doppio, per il controllo obbligatorio dell’Epo. Il medico e l’ispettore della Figc incaricati dell’antidoping registrano e comunicano l’accaduto al responsabile federale, il professor Pino Capua. Ieri la notizia circola tra via Allegri, Milano, il ritiro della Nazionale e l’Aic.

L’ANNO SCORSO — Il fatto suscita perplessità e scalpore perché, dopo un avvio stentato e parecchi rifiuti, a gennaio dell’anno scorso scese in campo in prima persona l’Assocalciatori: il suo presidente Sergio Campana proclamò che, dopo le iniziali perplessità proprio sul prelievo del sangue, i giocatori erano stati ben informati sulla nuova frontiera dell’antidoping e tutti (nessuno escluso) avevano accettato il controllo incrociato sangue-urina. Il presidente della Figc Carraro e il presidente della Lega e vicepresidente esecutivo del Milan Galliani, tra l’altro, dichiararono che chi avesse rifiutato il prelievo del sangue non sarebbe andato in Nazionale.

LA CONTRADDIZIONE — Non c’è sanzione disciplinare se un giocatore rifiuta il prelievo del sangue, ma da quest’anno i controlli sangue-urina fanno parte del protocollo Wada (l’agenzia mondiale dell’antidoping): fatto proprio dal Coni. E nel regolamento antidoping della Wada (art. 18 comma 2) è prevista una sanzione da uno a sei mesi per «rifiuto ai controlli». Che succederà?

A CHE SERVE — È una ricerca mirata dell’Epo: cioè dell’eritropoietina sintetica, che accresce il numero dei globuli rossi e dell’ossigeno nel sangue. Questo composto, vietatissimo dall’antidoping, serve a sopportare meglio la fatica. Il controllo sul sangue permette di trovare in un tempo più lungo (10-15 giorni) gli effetti dell’eritropoietina. Mentre l’Epo può essere riscontrata nell’urina entro 3-4 giorni dall’assunzione. E sul piano finanziario, i controlli sul sangue (ematocrito, emoglobina e reticolociti) costano 20-30 euro. I controlli sull’urina, invece, costano molto di più: 300 euro. A ciò va aggiunto il fatto che la Figc già spende 230 euro per il controllo sulle urine: anabolizzanti, eccetera.
 

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some interpretation will be good ... I cant get teh details of teh story. What I saw in goal.com was that they gave urine test but refused blood one, as they had teh righ to refuse a blood test, so there is nothing wrong in that. and the Urine test was negative.
 

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Milan pair in drugs row Tuesday 22 March, 2005

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The doping debate is back in the spotlight after Gennaro Gattuso and Giuseppe Pancaro refused to give a blood sample following Milan’s win against Roma.

The Rossoneri duo were randomly selected for the routine drug test following Sunday’s match, but only opted to give the compulsory urine sample.

Yet the Italian internationals declined to also give a blood sample which is left up to the players discretion.

Milan team doctor Massimiliano Sala was quick to defend their decision. "If a player does not give a blood sample it will mean his urine drug test will be even more stringent," he said.

The Italian Football Federation (FIGC), who last year agreed that players were well within their rights to decline leaving blood, will look to quickly clear up the confusion.

It is not clear at this stage why the players refused but Italy Coach Marcello Lippi is hoping the incident will not affect his squad before Saturday’s game.

Especially as Gattuso, a former Rangers man, is expected to play a key role in the Azzurri’s World Cup qualifier against Scotland at the weekend.

Italian football has been swamped with doping stories over the last decade after players such as Jaap Stam and Edgar Davids tested positive for nandrolone.

Juventus doctor Ricardo Agricola was also recently found guilty of administering illegal substances to players even if the club were cleared of any wrongdoing

http://www.channel4.com/sport/football_italia/mar22a.html

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Why makes such a fuzz about it .

You dont have to do a blood test in Italy , only a urine test.
 

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Right, the players can refuse to give the blood test & that's completely legal, but of course the press is going to see the worst & will consider them to be guilty of doping simply because they didn't give blood :rollani:
 

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who would offer to take a blood test when it isn't compulsory ? only some sort of masochist.
 

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ROMA, 22 marzo 2005 - “Stasera mi vengono a fare le analisi del sangue: potete venire a vederle tutti. ne do anche dieci litri. Non ho nulla da nascondere, il mio doping è il peperoncino e un gran culo durante la settimana...”, così Ivan Gattuso ha replicato alla notizia del suo mancato assenso al prelievo di sangue per il controllo incrociato con l’urina per la ricerca dell’Epo dopo Roma-Milan di domenica sera, un "no" che ha fatto infuriare l’Assocalciatori e i responsabili dell’antidoping della Federcalcio. Anche perché Gattuso è consigliere dell’Aic e componente stabile della Nazionale di Lippi.

In brief: "This evening I will take the blood test, you are all invited to the show"

http://www.gazzetta.it/Calcio/Squadra/Milan/primopiano/2005/marzo/22capuasugattuso.shtml
 

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The distressing part of this story is that legally their refusal of the blood test should've never been made public, such information is protected by the anti-doping regulations. Also, it's come to light that the practically every time the random testing has been done this season, the selected player has refused the blood test.
 

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Diavolo, you could translate the words of Gattuso: "My doping is the chilli (?) and the... err... hard work" :howler:

The problem is that Galliani said one year ago: the players who don't accept should not play for the Italian NT. If he had not said that thing there would be no problem...
 

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I can see all Juve fans praying for a real story here so they can finally have some arguements when they claim "its not only us" ... too bad they seem to be disappointed again. ;) Like with the ref calls and all the rest ... still, there is only one Juve! :D
 

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Diavolo, you could translate the words of Gattuso: "My doping is the chilli (?) and the... err... hard work" :howler:

The problem is that Galliani said one year ago: the players who don't accept should not play for the Italian NT. If he had not said that thing there would be no problem...
Personally I agree with Galliani, as you can see, in the end, Gattuso too ;)
 

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gazzetta just changed their online main heading:

Gattuso: "Ecco il mio sangue"
:D:D:D

After just coming back from italy where among 1000s of other things I attended three services in San Marco, thsi sounds utterly funny!
 

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bono said:
gazzetta just changed their online main heading:

Gattuso: "Ecco il mio sangue"
:D:D:D

After just coming back from italy where among 1000s of other things I attended three services in San Marco, thsi sounds utterly funny!
:howler: :howler: :howler:
 

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bono said:
:D Honestly, I cant get back to work for 10 min now ... Ecco is mio corpo ...

Rino, the new Prophet! :shades:
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The distressing part of this story is that legally their refusal of the blood test should've never been made public, such information is protected by the anti-doping regulations. Also, it's come to light that the practically every time the random testing has been done this season, the selected player has refused the blood test.
Obviously a plot by Moggi, who's still trying to put Milan in the same boat as doped-up Juve. :stuckup: And don't these guys have to give blood to Milan Lab all the time? I wouldn't give blood (or anything else) if I didn't have to, that's for sure. :eek:

EDIT: I just dropped by the Gazzetta site to admire the headline for myself and came across this cry from the heart from Gattuso: "I am not an animal". Movie buff Diavolo will like that one, I'm sure. :)

Gattuso says that when he entered the antidoping room at the Olimpico, after all the stress of the game, there were ten people in there and a lot of confusion, and the needles were just piled up somewhere. (He does specify that they were wrapped and sterile.) So now Capua, the doctor responsible for FIGC's Antidoping Unit, is mad at him and saying his people don't work that way. The president of AIC is trying to calm everyone down and saying it's a storm in a teacup, basically.

Come to think of it, it's probably a Scottish plot. Walter Smith has been taking lessons from Mourinho on how to destabilize an opponent. ;)
 
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