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Matt Scott
Saturday March 18, 2006
The Guardian


When Jose Mourinho complained vociferously last week about Chelsea's inability to become a member of G14, it was interpreted as evidence of a widening gulf between the manager and his chief executive Peter Kenyon. It seems now, however, that Mourinho was racked with a deeper and more pressing fear: that of being disenfranchised from the top table of European football.
G14, comprising 18 of Europe's richest football powers, has launched an attempt to kill off the Champions League in its present form and seize ownership of the game's most prestigious club competition. The G14 group, whose members include Manchester United, Liverpool and Arsenal, has agreed an internal policy document, exclusively obtained by the Guardian, which outlines their intention to guarantee the dominance of their 18 clubs in European football.



G14 deny everything

Denis Campbell
Sunday March 19, 2006
The Observer

The G14 group of leading European clubs have denied a report in the Guardian that they want their 18 members to enjoy guaranteed entry into the Champions League every year, which Uefa, European football's governing body, said would turn the competition 'into professional wrestling, where everything is predictable'. G14 general manager Thomas Kurth said: 'Breaking away from the Champions League does not make any sense. Any attempt to ringfence the competition would be wrong and G14 would not support any such move


There is also some reports that surfaced yesterday about G14 forming a breakaway European League. Of course, this too was denied.

http://today.reuters.co.uk/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=footballNews&storyID=URI:urn:newsml:reuters.com:20060318:MTFH78964_2006-03-18_15-59-48_L18052850:1

By Darren Ennis

BRUSSELS, March 18 (Reuters) - The G14 group, which represents 18 of the world's richest clubs, says it does not intend to form a breakaway elite European league.

Media reports on Saturday said the organisation, which includes clubs like Manchester United, Real Madrid and AC Milan, was proposing the setting up of a new European competition for which its clubs would be guaranteed entry every year.

However, G14 spokesman James Thelluson told Reuters: "We do not intend to form an alternative to the Champions League".

The prospect of a rival to UEFA's Champions League would be a severe blow to European soccer's governing body but the G14 says it makes no sense to leave the competition.

"The UEFA Champions League is the most exciting and successful club-based competition on the planet," said general manager Thomas Kurth on G14's website.

"G14 members, and their fans, adore playing in it."


http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/4819538.stm

G14 clubs deny breakaway reports

Europe's top clubs have denied reports that they are planning to take control of the Champions League.
A draft report leaked to the Guardian suggested G14 wants to ensure its 18 members can participate in Europe's elite club competition every year.
 

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These reports are anti-big club spin doctoring of the highest order.

Apart from the fact that there are no verified facts in the report, it would be impossible for either the breakaway or the guaranteed Champions League spots to work. They don't have the power that people seem to think, and the obvious response to such acts would be transger embargos and being thrown out of their leagues, and all other kind of things to the point where they would have no-one to play.

G14 can't make these things happen, even if they could, the consequences would be too great.
 

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What worries me is that something similar happened in basketball few years ago. The biggest clubs formed their own European super-league to replace the FIBA Europe-run Euroleague (the equilavent of CL for basketball). All of them had 5 years guarandeed entry in it. This resulted in a big mess in every domestic basketball league as clubs had nothing to play for... It killed basketball.

It can happen. But if it does, it will be really, really horrible.
 

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It would be stupid and the day it does happen I will stop watching European football competitions and so would most of the world when they realise how unfair it is.

What would be better is if the G14 made their own league and let good little Italian teams fight for honours instead of just 3 rich clubs who rely on refs.
 

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ViscaBarcaInter said:
These reports are anti-big club spin doctoring of the highest order.

Apart from the fact that there are no verified facts in the report, it would be impossible for either the breakaway or the guaranteed Champions League spots to work. They don't have the power that people seem to think, and the obvious response to such acts would be transger embargos and being thrown out of their leagues, and all other kind of things to the point where they would have no-one to play.

G14 can't make these things happen, even if they could, the consequences would be too great.

Actually they do have alot of power. they would start their own league, that would cripple most of the leagues, in revenue. They own the clubs,they can do what they want. There would be companies throwing tons at money at the for the television rights and marketing rights.
They won't for now, but UEFA knows that these teams have alot of power.
 

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Since when are Leverkusen are a massive club anyway?

They're hardly among the top five in Germany - they just happened to have a good period between 1997-2002.
 

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They could theoretically breakaway, but it would only work in the short term, if at all.

Given that FIFA and all the continental and national bodies are completely against any kind of breakaway like those being discussed here, they would do everything they could to prevent it from working. Such as a complete ban on selling players to the breakaway clubs, preventing them from playing in all domestic competition, FIFA would ban any players involved from International football. Perhaps they would even be taken to court over a variety of things.

No doubt that big clubs always want more money and influence, but there are certain things they simply cannot have. And in the end, a european tournament between the same 18 teams every year would not be that interesting after a while, unless the G14 were going to start letting dozens of teams in, which would completely defeat the point of the G14 in the first place.
 

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ViscaBarcaInter said:
They could theoretically breakaway, but it would only work in the short term, if at all.

Given that FIFA and all the continental and national bodies are completely against any kind of breakaway like those being discussed here, they would do everything they could to prevent it from working. Such as a complete ban on selling players to the breakaway clubs, preventing them from playing in all domestic competition, FIFA would ban any players involved from International football. Perhaps they would even be taken to court over a variety of things.

No doubt that big clubs always want more money and influence, but there are certain things they simply cannot have. And in the end, a european tournament between the same 18 teams every year would not be that interesting after a while, unless the G14 were going to start letting dozens of teams in, which would completely defeat the point of the G14 in the first place.

most of those things would be ruled illegal by the courts, they would cry and moan, but uefa without those teams, is nothing....the big money is there. They have all the right to start their own league, if they chose.
They probabably won't break away, they just use it to keep Uefa and Fifa in line. The Clubs have the power not Uefa or FIFA.
 
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