[Florian1972]

Joe, I'm deeply disapointed in Hungary's loss to Slovenia -- its major downer. Joe, I'm sort of a betting man (actually in other sports). I would have put rock hard money on Hungary at home. I had that much faith in Varhidi ... I know he was down four key starters to injuries and other circumstances but Varhidi insisted on an sphinx incomprehendable defensive alignment 4-5-1 against for Pete's sake Slovenia! A truly Western coach would have put more on the line, and it shows average and not proper discernment by Varhidi.

Slovenia should have have been shown more trump ace cards on attack, more of a militarist offensive-oriented 4 defenders, 3 midfielders and 2 forwards. Varhidi held back, and had a sole player at point - Priskin - and played defense all across the board. Hungary should have realized the bookmakers' respect and beat Slovenia 2-1, 3-0, 2-0 or 1-0.

Italians religiously play bunker-safety-first football ... but against Slovenia! Varhidi's boys showed a lack of character and moxie, I'm almost wanting an ol wily Englishman to coach the Hungarian national varsity. I hope you can agree with this Joe that the 1st rule in American sports is when you're out of talent and fuel is low -you start pushing offensive buttons by put more forward emphasis on the line.

Bill Parcells and Bobby Knight - they'll tell you the same thing:
Power wins football games not neccessarily speed, pace, skill and craftiness (although they are supplementary adjectives and they help 30%) ... Varhidi simply doesn't know that power wins football games. Varhidi put one lone forward, the mercurial Priskin in a 4-5-1 formation. I eulogized for a strong 4-3-3 forward attacking tactical alingment. That would have eked out a victory against Slovenia. We don't have an eternity to toy around with Hungary's mediocrity, I want an good old English football master-instructor to tutor Hungary.

 

[Florian1972]

Corvinists talk Hungarian Football

Corvinists have patience for Hungarian football, but we are running out of patience. Corvinists have given decades of patience on the line for Hungarian football. The Slovenia game is a game I'll pretend I never saw, it was an aberration.

It's apparent that this Hungarian coach through 20 years of experience is not a Corvinist. I want a foreign coach, preferrably now to be an Englishman or a Swede as a militarist, value-added, tactically-savvy Corvinist football-instructor for Hungary. Hungary was saddled with injuries, in spite of this Hungary and all the British oddsmakers slated Hungary to have ought crushed Slovenia. Varhidi didn't heed any of my suggestions and didn't put chess-pieces at an offensive array 4-4-2 (forwards) or better to the line. He played Italian fortress football and lost 0-1!

Corvinists perhaps may want an experienced Englishman or a Swede navigator to be a Corvinist (rock-hard fundalmentalist football) to inherit the mantle for Hungary. I'm willing to forget the 0-1 defeat to Slovenia: but we do not have an eternity, neither you, neither I, neither does Hungary to wait for good luck to arrive.

We don't an eternity to "groom, educate, and prepare" youth as our friend Joe Henderson said and play it "gradually to improve".

I want an master-craftsman European guiding us if Varhidi does not offer victorious advances soon. Corvinists are running out of patience; I'm slightly nodding to a northern European helmsman if coach Varhidi cannot plug the malaise that we are in. Corvinists are ol' fashioned and of discerning taste, but I'll reckon that Hungary needs a northern European guiding her.

 

[Pista]

"English master"..there are none for just about 40 years.

What Hungary needs is team play coupled with the players will to win..actually, a drastic change in their mental state.

 

[Florian1972]

Hey! long time no talk Pista, how goes it. Guess what, only me, you and Joe understand how America sports may or might apply to Hungarian football. Its good that we share this American sporting perspective Pista

Pista we need a a true Corvinist chieftan for the team, I don't believe Varhidi's the answer, but I'm willing to give him 2 other "friendly" games to get the team together but that's it.

 

[Joe Henderson]

I'm a football Corvinist? i don't even know what that is, but i love it

and to be addressed in a thread title... you made my day!

 

[Florian1972]

Esik, so what's Gera Zoli's daughter's name? That all I care to know about what's the baby's name?

My Corvinist name: Florian Desidarius Joachim Forsythe Meredith Cornelius Gaspar Clarence Wolstenholme-Bornemissza.

I need this name, its a tour de force old European hard-rock nobility name.

Olde Ye Europa, I hail thee.

 

[Pista]

Major,

Yes, we here know how important is the winning attitude. Look at Gera, when his contract had two years left he was a no show and admitted it. Now that he's in the last year of his contract, he's playing like he always should have. It's the Magyar mentality and they all have it. Heck, you give the USA team the technical ability that the Hungarians have and they would be in the top three in the world. Just watched USA/Poland last week..the Yanks cannot make three passes but they always hustle, are right in the face of the opposition, run like jackals after the opposition and never tire.

Yes a Corvonist is needed, but he has to be Hungarian whose willing to publicly chastise a player for a poor performance or for just a poor attitude. Someone has to take the U-17 team and start building it from there because with this team it's pointless.

 

[Carbajal]

Flóra, I think.
And whatever you are drinking recently, it's too strong (or not strong enough?). Calm down a bit.

 

[Bentex]

Flóra, I think.

Hanna

 

[MagyarStuttgart]

He also forgot Thyssen.

What any of that has to do with football, or more specifically, Zoltan Gera, I don't know...

 

[MagyarGyerek]

He also forgot Thyssen.

What any of that has to do with football, or more specifically, Zoltan Gera, I don't know...

I'm asking the same question... this is getting to be a bit too much....

 

[Aron]

Major,

Yes, we here know how important is the winning attitude. Look at Gera, when his contract had two years left he was a no show and admitted it. Now that he's in the last year of his contract, he's playing like he always should have. It's the Magyar mentality and they all have it. Heck, you give the USA team the technical ability that the Hungarians have and they would be in the top three in the world. Just watched USA/Poland last week..the Yanks cannot make three passes but they always hustle, are right in the face of the opposition, run like jackals after the opposition and never tire.

Yes a Corvonist is needed, but he has to be Hungarian whose willing to publicly chastise a player for a poor performance or for just a poor attitude. Someone has to take the U-17 team and start building it from there because with this team it's pointless.

Possibly the best thing about Nemeth, his attitude..

"But I'm very motivated, I'll work till I die!"

 

[szövkap]

He also forgot Thyssen.

What any of that has to do with football, or more specifically, Zoltan Gera, I don't know...

this thread is about football corvinists so why would it have to do with Gera in the first place?

 

[Carbajal]

This thread is sheer idiotism.

 

[MagyarStuttgart]

this thread is about football corvinists so why would it have to do with Gera in the first place?

Some of the posts were in the Gera thread originally and Bentex moved them

 

[Florian1972]

Carbajal, .. when I started this tread sunday about Corvinist football I was under the influence (I recently got laid off and out of work) so I thought I let off some steam. I'm sober now and happier because I think a job that I applied for came through.

What I meant by the whole tread was Varhidi played defensive football against Slovenia, why I don't know but he only played with 1 forward. Now I sorta like calvary type football, 2 guys at forward instead of one like how the USA plays it.

When I was under the influence and wrote this I was a little upset that we can't even win against weaker teams like Slovenia, and I was sorta put out the idea that the NT should hire a new coach, somebody English or Swedish who've had success with other Western teams. Anyway, that's that, I got my jollies out drunk talkin about Corvinus, I like history. Baseball season's here so I must say Carbajal that you won't be seeing me much intoxicated and ravin for better success for the NT.

Sometimes Carbajal when you're outta work, its a good relaxer to get a little or a lot toasted like I usually get listen to rock n roll, and get the frustration out about football and about life in general. Anyway Carbajal, I hope my Beck's-inspired posts didn't upset you or anyone else in this forum, if I did well apologies.

 

[szövkap]

Major, you are a hero! don't let the evil powers oppress your very Majorness! we need you here, particularly if you meet the Whisky and the likes! hajrá! forget about Bejzbol though, that's just shite. here is the empire of Foci and nothing else. we just lost against Malta and Slovenia and Moldova because we feel sorry for them and because they are our brethren, that is all. we will win the 2010 world series though, east and west conference don't forget!

 

[Carbajal]

Anyway Carbajal, I hope my Beck's-inspired posts didn't upset you or anyone else in this forum, if I did well apologies.

The one on Hungary that was censored in the Slovenia match thread was clearly offensive. But apologies accepted. This one is just stupid.

 

[Bentex]

Just felt like bumping this for Carbajal for old times