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Cachorro
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Something that occurred to me about the poor refereeing in this World Cup.

On the recent (and controversial) quarterfinal game between Spain and Korea, the Egyptian referee committed some major blunders and stained Korea's historical WC campaign with doubt and suspicion. I believe even the Korean fans are somewhat embarassed by the absurd mistakes, and I'm not even discussing the relative merits of the referee's calls - that's not the point of this thread; other threads are devoted to slamming FIFA, the referees, Korea and everything in sight. :rollani: My point is FIFA's criteria when choosing a referee. Follow my reasoning.

It was pretty sure, before the match, that this already-decisive game would feature a crowded stadium making a lot of noise - we all saw Korea's 'red tide' of supporters before. So there would be a lot of pressure on the refs. Now, no offense to our Egyptian friends, but what's the Egyptian league like? Not world-class, I gather. I don't know how 'crowded' Egyptian stadium get on decisive games either, but I suppose it's far less intimidating than a World Cup - mind you, I'm guessing, as I've never heard of any Egyptian teams on any kind of world-class competition. But FIFA had to choose a ref who was neither from Europe nor from Asia. So the Egyptian was chosen.

Now comes my doubt: Brazil's referee in this World Cup, Carlos Eugenio Simon, is a very good ref, accustomed to top-class competition and extremely used to performing under tremendous pressure on overcrowded stadiums. This man has commanded decisive matches on the Maracana, Morumbi, you name it... and also many decisive Libertadores matches on stadiums like La Bombonera and El Centenario de Montevideo. This guy is still in Japan, waiting to get selected to work on some match. This guy is, in short, a world-class referee from South America. WHY did the Egyptian get chosen instead of Simon?

I'm not saying the Egyptian would be 'naturally' less qualified, but it's unlikely that he has Simon's sheer experience. I'm trying to understand WHAT would be the criteria that lead FIFA to prefer the Egyptian over the Brazilian. Maybe some of you guys has a clue about it, 'cause I'm stumped.

I'm sure there are other, extremely qualified refs from other countries, which could be used as examples in this case. I mentioned Simon because I know his work and I know he's still waiting to be selected for a game in the knockout stages. Wouldn't he be perfect for the Spain x Korea match?

Just wondering. :)
Peace.
 

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Sabry said:
So as you see, this referee is not chosen out of the blue or because of the fact that he is "Egyptian", but because he is GOOD. Simple. He is ranked by FIFA as one of the best referees in the world so as you see he does have better experience than Simon and thats why he was elected, not Simon (probably Simon's history in Mexico vs Italy was also another factor why he didnt get chosen while Gamal had a perfect history in the previous matches).

I for the final time ask you to just lose your blindness, forget the referees nationality, dig up his history, his performance, his career and you will find up this is one of the best referees of the world only let down by his linesmen. Garrincha, I know you are not a loser who blamed all the world for Spains exit like some did, in fact I can remember you praised Korea, but dont you notice here that you are basing all your opinion on the referees nationality ?
I'm sorry to have insulted you, Sabry. It wasn't what I meant by it. I didn't base my opinion on nationality, but rather on my own huge ignorance regarding the Egyptian league and mr. Gamal; and I stand corrected.

The racism that is being spread around on the forums sickens me too, and I've said that in many posts. Now my own ignorance has driven me to opening this thread, and I'm sorry for it. I just din't know who the referee was and jumped to conclusions without full information - which is never a good idea, I know. :)

Again, sorry if it insulted anybody, I never meant to do that. Peace.
 

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Where gamal went wrong

Sabry said:
And I still dont see where Gamal went wrong, the first disallowed goal was cancelled for clear shirt pulling/foul on Puyol against Kim and the second "cancelled goal" was the responsibility of the linesman.
I mostly agree with you. Actually, the big mistake he committed IMO was allowing the Korean 'keeper to move past the goal line on that penalty kick. Other than that, the calls were controversial but not absurd. But he should've told the penalty to be re-taken, and the GK should have seen the yellow card for what he did. That was Gamal's big mistake.
 
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