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How can Ferguson and Man Utd complain about Real Madrid trying to tap-up and unsettle Ronaldo when they have been doing it for years:confused:. What do use think?

Put simply, if Madrid were to ask FIFA to turn the same spotlight on Fergie it would open up a can of worms big enough for Bob Nudd to empty every river in the land of its pike population. The only question to be asked about Ferguson and tapping-up is where do you begin?

Let's stick with the last decade and start with the most publicised example: Jaap Stam detailing in his autobiography the precise methods employed by Fergie in 1998 to tap him up when he was still at PSV Eindhoven.

Ferguson wasn't investigated but Stam was shipped out, according to the Dutchman, for spilling the beans.

Remember in 2003 when United tried to sign Ronaldinho from Paris St Germain? Here's what their president Francis Graille said: "Manchester have not played the game in line with FIFA regulations.

"They have negotiated directly with the player. Even if they have got agreement from the player, they haven't got agreement from his club."

In the January of that year Sunderland chairman Bob Murray described Fergie's approaches to David Bellion as "shabby, despicable, disrespectful, arrogant and unprofessional".

And the previous summer United were accused of tapping-up Rennes full-back Julien Escude, after the France Under-21 international player claimed Ferguson had spoken to him on his mobile phone.

Ask Leeds and Everton about the behind-the-scenes connivance with Rio Ferdinand's and Wayne Rooney's agents before they moved to Old Trafford. Ask Fulham's Mohammed Al Fayed why he raged about Fergie "constantly unsettling my players" as he pursued Luis Saha. Ask Bayern Munich chairman Karl-Heinz Rummenigge why he said in 2006: "We have told Manchester United that they should stop trying to tempt Owen Hargreaves. If they don't, then we will have to turn to FIFA."

But best of all, ask PSV Eindhoven's chairman Harry van Raaij about Fergie's behaviour in courting Ruud van Nistelrooy in 2000. Specifically his quote "he has crossed the line of decency".

Then ask him why, in 2004, when Arjen Robben was given the red-carpet treatment at United's training ground while still a PSV player, van Raaij flew into a rage and said: "It is Ferguson's way of doing business. A leopard never changes his spots."

I could go on but you get the picture. Before Ferguson conjures up images of the Madrid dictator Franco he should look hard into his mirror. For him to question the morals of another club when it comes exerting psychological pressure on a player he's set his sights on, is laughable.

To think a FIFA inquiry into deals which haven't gone strictly by the book would put another club in a worse light than his own, is dangerously deluded.

It must be down to the ease with which he has run rings around the petrified English authorities (as currently exemplified by the FA appealing against themselves for bizarrely letting Fergie and his assistant Carlos Queiroz off an improper conduct charge after attacking referee Martin Atkinson and his boss Keith Hackett).

Fergie knows better than anyone that one of the major reasons for his phenomenal success has been an ability to tie up deals with some of the world's best players.

Deals which, for every club in the world, often mean stretching the rule-book to the limits.

Hypocrisy, eh? Bloody hell.

"Fergie knows better than anyone that one of the reasons for his success has been an ability to tie up deals with some of the world's best players"
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Not to mention the Rio Ferdinand affair.

Worst of all was the Forlan mess.

Man Utd tappers intercepting him at the airport.
 

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If Utd report Real Madrid then Leeds, Everton, PSV Eindhoven, Fulham, Bayern Munich, Rennes, Paris St Germain, etc etc should report Utd:D
 

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I would be willing to bet that every major European team does this.
 

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Money hungry agents are as much at fault for tapping up than clubs IMO. I mean, the person who created the entire Cashley affair by arranging the meeting with Chelsea in the first place was Jonathan Barnett, agent of the twats.

I'd say most transfers at a top level go through via the agents rather than the clubs, too. The buying club wouldn't contact the selling club first, no; instead they'd go right to the agent to see if the player wants a move and only then would they bother to ask the selling club. By the letter of the law that'd probably be branded as tapping up.
 

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but not every team who knows that have a done it are threating to report another team to FIFA.

I'll also bet that Utd fans will not post on this Thread:D
 

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Some people :rollani:

Like Amr said everyone does it, that’s no big secret.

The problem in this case is how barefaced Madrid is being, openly
courting the player through the media etc. Everyone in the club
making statements about his future etc.

This is not back channel talks with agents and Ronaldo.
 

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I'll bet to, but not every team who knows that have a done it are threating to report another team to FIFA.

I'll also bet that Utd fans will not post on this Thread:D
I'm a United fan, and I posted here ;)

Does it sound hypocritical? Maybe, but I understand why Fergie is getting so defensive of little Cristiano. I sure as hell don't want him to leave! But, the Glazers are supposedly saying that they'll let him rot on the bench rather than sell him.
 

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I'm a United fan, and I posted here ;)

Does it sound hypocritical? Maybe, but I understand why Fergie is getting so defensive of little Cristiano. I sure as hell don't want him to leave! But, the Glazers are supposedly saying that they'll let him rot on the bench rather than sell him.
:howler: i meant true utd fans, not many around though
 

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Some people :rollani:

Like Amr said everyone does it, that’s no big secret.

The problem in this case is how barefaced Madrid is being, openly
courting the player through the media etc. Everyone in the club
making statements about his future etc.

This is not back channel talks with agents and Ronaldo.
some people what?
 

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It must be down to the ease with which he has run rings around the petrified English authorities (as currently exemplified by the FA appealing against themselves for bizarrely letting Fergie and his assistant Carlos Queiroz off an improper conduct charge after attacking referee Martin Atkinson and his boss Keith Hackett).

This is the key point with United/Ferguson. And how he and Queiroz got off the improper conduct charge is, even by United standards, unbelievable.
 
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