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OK guys, we need to make our nominations for the Nordic all star team. We have to choose three Finnish players for each of these positions:

Goalkeeper
Left Back
Central Defender
Righ Back
Left Midfielder
Central Midfielder
Right Midfielder
Striker

Let's discuss about the nominations in this topic and see if we can reach an agreement. I will probably post my ideas tomorrow when I have more time and energy.
 

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Goalkeeper :
Jussi Jääskeläinen (Bolton Wanderers)
Antti Niemi (Hearts)
Peter Enckelman (Aston Villa)
extra keepers :
Teuvo Moilanen (Preston)
Jani Viander (Bolton)
Otto Fredriksson (Borussia Monchengladbach)
left backs :
Hannu Tihinen (Viking Stavanger)
Petri Pasanen (Ajax Amsterdam)
Janne Salli (Barnsley)

Central Defender :
Sami Hyypiä (Liverpool)
Toni Kuivasto (Viking Stavanger)
Tero Penttilä (Glasgow Rangers)

Righ Back :
Janne Saarinen (Rosenborg)
Juha Reini (AZ Alkmaar)
Petri Helin (Stockport)

Left Midfielder :
Aki Riihilahti (Crystal Palace)
Mika Nurmela (Herenveen)
Tommi Grönlund (Hearts)

Central Midfielder :
Jari Litmanen (Liverpool)
Jonatan Johansson (Charlton)
Mika Väyrynen (Herenveen)

Right Midfielder :
Teemu Tainio (Auxerre)
Joonas Kolkka (Panathinaikos)
Simo Valakari (Derby)

Striker :
Mikael Forssell (Chelsea)
Shefki Kuqi (Sheffield Wednesday)
Paulus Roiha (FC Utrecht)
 

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Hmm.. I must say that I disagree with you Lionheart on some of those players. I think that Tihinen should be a central back, has he ever even played as left defender? I would also nominete Pasanen as a central defender because that's what he plays in Ajax and he is best in that role although he has played as a right back in our national team. And I think that Saarinen should be a left back. I also think that Valakari, Grönlund & Riihilahti are all central midfielders. And then Kolkka should definetely be a left and Nurmela a right midfielder. I would also nominate Johansson as a striker.

I was thinking that because we only have one or two quality players for some postions (left/right defenders, wingers), maybe we shouldn't nominate all three players for those positions. Saarinen is for example our best left back, and the second best would probably be Petri Heinänen or Harri Ylönen and I don't see any point in nominating that kind of players. I would also suggest that we only nominate players for positions they mainly play. Janne Salli for example can play as a right back but he has mostly played as a central defender so I don't think that we should nominate him for any other places.

I would suggest something like this:

Goalkeeper:
-Antti Niemi
-Jussi Jääskeläinen
-Peter Enckelman

Left Back:
-Janne Saarinen

Central Defender:
-Sami Hyypiä
-Hannu Tihinen
-Petri Pasanen

Righ Back:
-Juha Reini

Left Midfielder:
-Joonas Kolkka

Central Midfielder:
-Jari Litmanen
-Teemu Tainio
-Aki Riihilahti

Right Midfielder:
-Mika Nurmela

Striker :
-Mikael Forssell
-Jonatan Johansson
-Shefki Kuqi
 

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To be honest i couldn't remember Tihinen's exact position. Doesn't Grönlund play left midfield for Hearts and not as a central one? I am not sure though. Although Johansson is a proven goal scorer I put him behind the two strikers along with Litmanen I'm sure they'd be great and we need one strong fighting player in attack like Shefki and Forssell is very fast so Kuqi can perhaps provide some space for Miklu's runs. Litmanen has some great passes and I think he suits central mid-field like at Ajax.
 

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Looks like we have reached an agreement about the goalkeepers.

I think we shouldn't be creating a team that would actually work, but list players for the positions they play at and are best at, so I think we should nominate Johansson as striker. That's the role he has been playing in Charlton and he is much better in that than as a winger or a central midfielder. I don't know what place Grönlund has been playing in Hearts but I think that he has been a defensive central midfielder in Sweden and Finland. But as you said Litti is definetely a central midfielder.
 

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Finn, your picks look good. But if there should be three for every position, these players should be included.

Left back:
Harri Ylönen
Peti Heinänen

Right back:
Aarno Turpeinen
Toni Huttunen

Left wing:
Peter Kopteff
Jari Niemi

Right wing:
Jari Ilola
Petri Helin


Some of them are "a bit" out of position but still, Ilola for example has given great performances on the wing.
 

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Nice to see Kafka here as well. Also other Finnish posters can voice their opinions about this.

Those are pretty much the same players that I was thinking. Of course we can include them as well if you want, although I doubt that they would get a single vote because they are so far from our best players for those positions.
 

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Yup nice to see some Finnish posters here. Hopefully we'll see more soon. I actually agree with you Finn let's have Tintti as a striker.
 

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So I'll add the players Kafka said to the list:

Goalkeeper:
-Antti Niemi (Hearts)
-Jussi Jääskeläinen (Bolton)
-Peter Enckelman (Aston Villa)

Left Back:
-Janne Saarinen (Rosenborg)
-Harri Ylönen (Haka)
-Petri Heinänen (Tampere United)

Central Defender:
-Sami Hyypiä (Liverpool)
-Hannu Tihinen (Viking)
-Petri Pasanen (Ajax)

Righ Back:
-Juha Reini (Genk)
-Aarno Turpeinen (HJK)
-Toni Huttunen (MyPa)

Left Midfielder:
-Joonas Kolkka (Panathinaikos)
-Peter Kopteff (Viking)
-Jari Niemi (Tampere United)

Central Midfielder:
-Jari Litmanen (Liverpool)
-Teemu Tainio (Auxerre)
-Aki Riihilahti (Crystal Palace)

Right Midfielder:
-Mika Nurmela (Heerenveen)
-Petri Helin (Denizlispor)
-Jari Ilola(HJK)

Striker :
-Mikael Forssell (Chelsea)
-Jonatan Johansson (Charlton)
-Shefki Kuqi (Sheffield Wednesday)

I was thinking that Mika Väyrynen could also be on the right midfielder list. I think that that he has been playing behind Mika Nurmela on the right side of Heerenveen's midfield.
 

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Making progress guys, good work...how about Janne Salli on the left backs? Can you please come with a final list, with 3 players in each position...just the 3 I should put in the poll? :)
 
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