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all questions like why Loko ultras hate Torpedo ultras and such please discuss here.
 

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Dmitriy said:
how did this whole Loko-Torpedo hatred start by the way? i knew the two supporters don't like eachother, but why?
I dont know about Torpedo, but as far as I know our problems with Saturn started with a fight at Tcherkizovo in 1999. Is it true, MadUKV? And why don't you hate Saturn?:D
 

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i don't really kno how the CSKA-Spartak rivalry came about, here's an old school pic from the Russian derby. look at the small police force.:D nowadays there would be at least 3,000 at the derby matches.

 

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Fracky said:
all questions like why Loko ultras hate Torpedo ultras and such please discuss here.
the most tolerant thread i've ever seen here :ass:
 

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Rattlesnake said:
the most tolerant thread i've ever seen here :ass:
i only opened it to avoid similar thing in the offtopic forum so no sarcasm please.
 

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Fracky,
You seem to know more than I do. :) I just know that once guys from Ramenskoe got too rough with our fans, there was a fight... and nothing else. It just ceased, an accidental opposition.
As for Torpedo, the whole story is vague and seems as if both sides needed to find an opponent - and they did :)))))) Let it grow into a tradition
 

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Dmitriy said:
when u say that Spartak play all over, let me clarify. there are many teams named Spartak, as it is just a name, same with Dinamo and Lokomotiv. no other team in Russia is named CSKA because it is the CENTRAL red army team, thus based in Moscow. there are CKA's, but none of them have Central in it.
I knew that, it's just that when I was an innocent in Moscow I saw Spartak were playing at home, went to Luzhniki, only to be told they were playing the home game at Loko's ground (so I missed it)
 
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