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hey , friday 25th of january is the big day: 12:eek:o cet the draw of the euro 2004 qualifying groups, the day when friends become enemies, when we realize that our beloved national teams
once again will have to face each other , to hunt the points on the way to Portugal 2004!

yes, its judgement day, thus i opened this thread, cause from friday on there will be a lot to be discussed, predicted etc.

good luck to all EE teams!

bad luck to the others!
 

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obviously, no one is interseted in euro 2004 draw, here are the groups for the qualifiers, if there is somebody interested what I doubt.
damned, the germans were lucky again !
hungary will have a tough fight with latvia for the 3./4. position in group4. groups 2, 3 & 9 are the really heavy ones, so again, good luck to all East Europe teams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there are good chances for czech rep, poland, ukraina, croatia, yugoslavia, russia , slovenia and romania, at least there are no double ee groups, so it was actually a rather good draw.

group1
Franciaország
Szlovénia
Izrael
Ciprus
Málta

group2
Románia
Dánia
Norvégia
Bosznia
Luxemburg

group3
Csehország
Hollandia
Ausztria
Fehéroroszország
Moldova

group4
Svédország
Legyelország
MAGYARORSZÁG
Lettország
San Marino

group5
Németország
Skócia
Izland
Litvánia
Feröer-szigetek

group6
Spanyolország
Ukrajna
Görögország
Észak - Íroszág
Örményország

group7
Törökország
Anglia
Szlovákia
Macedonia
Liechtenstein

group8
Belgium
Horvátország
Bulgária
Észtország
Andorra

group9
Olaszország
Jugoszlávia
Finnország
Wales
Azerbajdzsán

group10
Írország
Oroszország
Svájc
Grúzia
Albánia
 
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It seems to be easily predictable, looks like the following teams have good chances for 1st and 2nd place:
1 2
France & Slovenia
Romania Denmark
Holland Csech Republik
Poland Sweden
Germany Scotland
Spain Ukraine
England Turkey
Croatia Belgium
Jugoslavia Italy
Russia Ireland

that makes 5 directly qualified EE teams+ 3 teams playing play-offs. not bad!







:cool: :cool: :cool: ;) :) :tongue:
 
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An< chances for Hungary to surviove in Group 4 ?

NO! Sweden and POland, we have not even a minimal chance,
we must concentrate on the games with Latvia, to stay in the third seed at least.
 

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for hungary, i'm predicting a win at home against san marino, and maybe a draw at home with latvia...all losses after that for Hungary i'm afraid.

if they do BETTER than that, they will have exceeded my expectations!
 

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I actually think that Hungary will give Poland and Sweden a good match. by the way, Legyelország is Poland in Hungarian?!?!
 

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I actually think that Hungary will give Poland and Sweden a good match. by the way, Legyelország is Poland in Hungarian?!?!
that was some kind of typing error of mr. szövkap,
it is "LENGYELORSZÁG",
and i hope to see 2 good matches with the lengyels!
 

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that was some kind of typing error of mr. szövkap,
it is "LENGYELORSZÁG",
and i hope to see 2 good matches with the lengyels!
sorry for blaming you, szövkap,

it was me who did this typing error,

but actually i just copied it from nb1.hu
 

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so which one is it :D ?
 

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sanyi,

what's the hungarian etymology on the word lengyelorszag? how did polska or polonia become lengyel to the huns? i've wondered more than once.
 

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LeeScratchPerry said:
sanyi,

what's the hungarian etymology on the word lengyelorszag? how did polska or polonia become lengyel to the huns? i've wondered more than once.
i have no idea, nor do i with the etymology of "olasz" for italians,
"toth" for the slovaks, "olah" for romanians.

i only know the origin of "német", as we took that from our slavic brothers, meaning "those who can not speak":D :D :D , which is a good word for our german friends:angel: :angel:
 

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sanyi said:

group1
Franciaország
Szlovénia
Izrael
Ciprus
Málta

group2
Románia
Dánia
Norvégia
Bosznia
Luxemburg

group3
Csehország
Hollandia
Ausztria
Fehéroroszország
Moldova

group4
Svédország
Legyelország
MAGYARORSZÁG
Lettország
San Marino

group5
Németország
Skócia
Izland
Litvánia
Feröer-szigetek

group6
Spanyolország
Ukrajna
Görögország
Észak - Íroszág
Örményország

group7
Törökország
Anglia
Szlovákia
Macedonia
Liechtenstein

group8
Belgium
Horvátország
Bulgária
Észtország
Andorra

group9
Olaszország
Jugoszlávia
Finnország
Wales
Azerbajdzsán

group10
Írország
Oroszország
Svájc
Grúzia
Albánia

Just of curiosity(?), which languague is this!

By the way, if there's any Romanians, what do you think of meating Norway and Denmark! Hopefully Romania and Denmark take the top two places as I would hate to see Norway in the finales (even though I'm Norwegian.....).

I don't think the Czechs are happy. I support the Netherlands so sorry to the Czechs, I have to hope for you to win the play-offs this time...
 

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Niemcy (Germany) in Polish, same meaning :D

btw, its Hungarian
 

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sanyi said:


i have no idea, nor do i with the etymology of "olasz" for italians,
"toth" for the slovaks, "olah" for romanians.

i only know the origin of "német", as we took that from our slavic brothers, meaning "those who can not speak":D :D :D , which is a good word for our german friends:angel: :angel:


There're various names for the Germans. This is due to the fact that there were many Germanic tribes. Each one had a different name. Towards France and Spain, there was a group called Alemanen. That's why in French Germans are called "Alemands" while in Spanish they're called "Alemanos". It's the same for the others. Towards Eastern Europe the main German tribe were the Nemseti. That's why in Romanian it's "Nemti", in Hungarian it's "Nemet", etc. In Russian as well as other languages from Eastern Europe, the name "Germans" ressembles to "Nemseti".
 

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thanx for the words of wisdom :)
 
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ah yeah,

referring to the many of their tribes:

the finns call the germans "SAKSA" , after the saxonians
and the skandinavians call them "TYSK" or "THYSK" ,
the "alemannen" are, BTW , a southwest german tribe with
close relatives in switzerland, northern italy and west austria,
the dialects from those areas are the so-called "alemanic" dialects,
just another info to this point, but the origin of the word "lengyel"
in hungarian for the polish is a miracle to me,
I will consult some etymologic dictionary.
 
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