Basile heard you and has resigned.
Dunga and Basile - what have you two done?
It's incredible how badly Brazil and Argentina have been playing lately.
No ideas, no flair, no combinations, no short passes.. it's as if both teams totally lost their identity.
FUERA!
No ideas, no flair, no combinations, no short passes.. it's as if both teams totally lost their identity.
FUERA!
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You're right, guys like Adriano arent of the calibre of Ronaldo or Romario, but not many strikers are in the history of the game. They were very unique players and every striker that pulls on the yellow shirt shouldnt be compared to either of them. It doesnt help matters. It's like if every German striker was being compared to Gerd Muller.Adriano is very good yes, but Brazil have produced great strikers in recent history. Ronaldo, Romario etc. I don't think he's anywhere those. Your right Maicon is great but not used to his full.
Gilberto Silva is horrible, I have no idea how he still gets in the team.
Basile resignation is indeed a very good and relief news..........Batistuta, Batista or Simeone for the jobs
You can not possibly be serious. This has got to be one of the dumbest things I ever read. :howler:I just want to remind the world that the South American qualifiers are the toughest in the world.
:scared:This generation is pathetic.
Can I quote you on that? Because it is exactly what I have been saying for a while... hyped South Americans... but no one ever listens.
About Brazil, they are not the same Brazil since Romario's time.
More discipline these days. Positions are not so flexible .
We do not see so many of those amazing passes from mid into the box.
Its not Dunga's fault, the players mostly are well trained European style.
More discipline these days. Positions are not so flexible .
We do not see so many of those amazing passes from mid into the box.
Its not Dunga's fault, the players mostly are well trained European style.
I'm serious Malta, Latvia, Moldova, Luxembourg, San Marino, Azerbaijan, Liechtenstein, Estonia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Andorra, Faroe Islands, Cyprus, ... , ... , u fukkin name it ... are utter crap nations to play. No sea level could make em betta :howler:You can not possibly be serious. This has got to be one of the dumbest things I ever read
Thats how pathetic Europe really is theze dayz. Cuz Europa is ruled by South American (and African) playaz.Because it is exactly what I have been saying for a while... hyped South Americans... but no one ever listens.
I'm serious Malta, Latvia, Moldova, Luxembourg, San Marino, Azerbaijan, Liechtenstein, Estonia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Andorra, Faroe Islands, Cyprus, ... , ... , u fukkin name it ... are utter crap nations to play. No sea level could make em betta :howler:
Thats how pathetic Europe really is theze dayz. Cuz Europa is ruled by South American (and African) playaz.
:rollani:It is such a sad shame two of the undisputed World powerhouse's in Football seeming so inferior if that's a good word.With the amazing wealth of talent at their disposal you'd think they would be playing the brilliant football they're capable of.It will be interesting to see who replace's Basile.
Lemme explain ******.
Totti haz neva played in La Paz puffin thin air like weed and he neva had to travel a whole continent durin 2 dayz in orda to choke wid Italy.
Uttawize hed've failed miserably like he haz alwayz dun playin fo Italy aite ?
While this is fun and all but from the 10 teams 4 qualify and one team has to play the playoff games usually with a much weaker team. Are you trying to tell me that getting qualified from that is harder than in Europe where there is 6 teams in the group and only one of them gets qualified and 2nd gets playoff games with an opponent who is at the same level with your team? 40% of the teams in your group qualify automatically.Lemme explain ******.
Totti haz neva played in La Paz puffin thin air like weed and he neva had to travel a whole continent durin 2 dayz in orda to choke wid Italy.
Uttawize hed've failed miserably like he haz alwayz dun playin fo Italy aite ?
The margin of error in your group is clearly bigger than in Europe, where one mistake could jeopardize the whole campaign. So yeah, for big teams its easier to qualify in your group than it is to qualify from Europe.
Well Arg and Bra have most of their squads traveling from Europe to the matches and this can affect their level too.
South America do it their way and it's quite democratic the way it is done everyone playing each other home and away. Less teams than in Europe so they are entitled to do it this way. You can also take in to consideration difficulties re: altitude in some matches but to say qualifying from South America is tougher than from Europe is going overboard just a little.
It's a good thang dat only 2 teams outta 6 becum qualified becuz I don't wanna seeAre you trying to tell me that getting qualified from that is harder than in Europe where there is 6 teams in the group and only one of them gets qualified and 2nd gets playoff games with an opponent who is at the same level with your team? .
... playin a WC (unless they beat the favourites)...Malta, Latvia, Moldova, Luxembourg, San Marino, Azerbaijan, Liechtenstein, Estonia, Armenia, Belarus, Kazakhstan, Andorra, Faroe Islands, Cyprus...
Overall there is less competition in theze groups and there is no match like Bra X Arg facin two WC favourites. If France duz not qualify it's not becuz it's so hard to qualify but becuz they r weak theze dayz. Simply azz dat.
Mathematically 1.5 out of six qualify due to the playoff games between the seconds of the groups. But to get the first spot is harder for teams in Europe than for teams in S.America to get the 4th spot for example. And the teams first objective is to quarantee a qualifying spot. In Europe its the 1st spot while at S.America its the 1st-4th place. Even when the coaches of Arg and Bra are always going for the 1st spot than in the players minds its still the 4th spot that guarantees the qualification. Thus players having the chance to not give their all at the games. Just for example...For Spain to not directly qualify this time around they have to be weaker than Turkey but the Turks really have a world class squad proven in a big competition. While for the big 2 to not qualify they have to be shittier than either of Bra/Arg and Paraguay and Chile and Uruguay.
And for example teams like Venezuela and Columbia aint world beaters exactly and if you draw with them its because your team is just weak at that moment.
Just face it...its easier to qualify in S. America to the WC.
And for example teams like Venezuela and Columbia aint world beaters exactly and if you draw with them its because your team is just weak at that moment.
Just face it...its easier to qualify in S. America to the WC.
Its harder to make the top 4 in SA than to win the Euro group due to the presence of two WC favourites, hard to play Paraguay and Uruguay and three altitude teams in Bolivia, Colombia and Ecuador and twice the loss uv energy and preparation uv travellin from Europe to SA and from SA to different climatic and time zones. Book a flight to La Paz, enjoy the air and then come back and discuss wid me.Mathematically 1.5 out of six qualify due to the playoff games between the seconds of the groups. But to get the first spot is harder for teams in Europe than for teams in S.America to get the 4th spot for example.
The Turks are nowhere near to Spain qualitywise. Same about all the other groups. One can only "choke" not to qualify.For Spain to not directly qualify this time around they have to be weaker than Turkey but the Turks really have a world class squad proven in a big competition.
Agreed, Ven and Col ain't world beaters and dat is why they probably won't qualify in SA ... unlike World Class nations like Greeze in Europe, holla :howler:And for example teams like Venezuela and Columbia aint world beaters exactly and if you draw with them its because your team is just weak at that moment.
In ur eurocentric point uv view only.Just face it...its easier to qualify in S. America to the WC.
Macumba's post started off normal then morphed into a JohnnyBville post.
I blame Basile for what is happening in Argentina, because unlike the Brazilians, none of our players have ever refused to play for the national team, even for tournaments like the olympics or copa america where most of the teams played with their B teams.
Since you usually post the dumbest things, I'll take this as a compliment...You can not possibly be serious. This has got to be one of the dumbest things I ever read.
South American qualifers have a couple of things the European qualifiers dont:
2 extra days of travel JUST to get to the right place (including there and back)- this means more fatigue, and less time to train, since most player are running the leagues in Europe
3 locations with different altitude 3 games out of 18
2 WC winning teams to face 4 out of the 18 rounds, and 2 teams that probably will make it into the round of 16 (uruguay/paraguay) thats 4 out of 10 rounds of tough matches. That means that half of the games you have to be vigillant.
So the final math is: 11 games where any team in the world can win or lose out of 18... It's not that easy.
Of course, but I don't mean it like that.You're right, guys like Adriano arent of the calibre of Ronaldo or Romario, but not many strikers are in the history of the game. They were very unique players and every striker that pulls on the yellow shirt shouldnt be compared to either of them. It doesnt help matters. It's like if every German striker was being compared to Gerd Muller.
Brazil went from Romario to Ronaldo, and now they have a void. They have just come off the back of those incredible players, also Rivaldo, Cafu, Carlos etc. These players haven't been replaced, with the exception of Cafu, as I do like Maicon.
I'm not talking of Ronaldo and Rivaldo as all-time greats (which they are), but as the last generation.
I honestly don't understand why Brazil and Argentina fans are making such a fuss here. The quanification tournament itself is useless because the point of it is to get into the World Cup there's no way that those two teams will not qualify in the end. The South American qualifying is not as volatile as the European one because all the countries are in the same "group" so you can afford to be bad and still get through.
Back in 2002 Brazil barely made it to the World Cup, yet dominated everyone in the tournament. Argentina dominated everyone in the qualifications and yet failed to do anything at the Cup. That just shows that this tournament isn't very useful to access how good a team is.
Back in 2002 Brazil barely made it to the World Cup, yet dominated everyone in the tournament. Argentina dominated everyone in the qualifications and yet failed to do anything at the Cup. That just shows that this tournament isn't very useful to access how good a team is.
Cuz with that type of Talent, and with the Arch Rivals, Not Qualifying is worse than a Disaster.
I m talking about both teams.
I m talking about both teams.
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