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To those saying how stupid and unprofessional Cibona players were...f**k, there were only 0.6 seconds left. I mean come on...

The grobari simply have everything going for them this season..
Preventing an uncontested inbound or at least putting up a hand in the shooters face would have been more than sufficient. Yep, unprofessional :howler:
 

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It can only happen to Croatians:)
You reckon? Check this out...

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Yugoslavia loses in OT after giving up a 9 point lead in the final minute of the 1986 WC semi-final against the Soviet Union...Divac was bashed (not literally) because of this game and you can see he's distraught at the end of the 4th quarter...it's funny how one of his teammates Petranović shows him no sympathy and actually yells at him while Mutapčić and Dalipagić drag him to his feet...and then finally big Franjo Arapović lets Vlade have a cry on his shoulder...:howler:

While all this was happening I bet Dražen and Aco were arguing with the officials...:howler:
 

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I remember hearing about this... never saw it til now. What a breakdown. From this clip it looks like Yugo had no clue/system on how to play the final minute... they just hoped not to lose!

Politics aside... and strictly talking basketball... some of those players made up for that breakdown 4 years later.
 

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You reckon? Check this out...

_XoeRs8HmME

Yugoslavia loses in OT after giving up a 9 point lead in the final minute of the 1986 WC semi-final against the Soviet Union...Divac was bashed (not literally) because of this game and you can see he's distraught at the end of the 4th quarter...it's funny how one of his teammates Petranović shows him no sympathy and actually yells at him while Mutapčić and Dalipagić drag him to his feet...and then finally big Franjo Arapović lets Vlade have a cry on his shoulder...:howler:

While all this was happening I bet Dražen and Aco were arguing with the officials...:howler:
There were Croatian players on that team lol my theory still stands:)
 

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There were Croatian players on that team lol my theory still stands:)
Actually, bulk of that squad was Croatian, including the coach Krešo Ćosić...Petrović brothers, Arapović, Čutura, Cvjetičanin (all Cibona), Petranović, Vranković (both Zadar)...:smileani:
 

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I remember hearing about this... never saw it til now. What a breakdown. From this clip it looks like Yugo had no clue/system on how to play the final minute... they just hoped not to lose!

Politics aside... and strictly talking basketball... some of those players made up for that breakdown 4 years later.
Definitely. Not many of the 1986 squad actually played in 1990 but the two guys who were to blame most for the Soviet comeback did (D.Petrović and Divac). Zoran Čutura was the third "survivor". :smileani:
 

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I had no idea such few players carried onto the 1990 team... and way more Croats repping... no wonder we won!

Drazen and Vlade were pretty young in 86... 21 and 18 respectively. USSR would never have fielded such a young team. Experience and coaching stole that game away from talent.

BUt what matters most is the run we had in 92 and 94... and hopefully that can be inspiriation for some of our young studs today... so that they can stay focused and have a strong professional work ethic... and bring back some "kosarka glory".
 

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Well I tried to merge the two threads but the same bug seems to be happening therefore there is no choice but to open another thread to replace the existing one. I will paste the last 10 posts from the original into this thread and we shall continue :thumbsup:

Enjoy :)
 

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Not sure anyone mentioned this, but this is the preliminary roster for 2010 FIBA World Championship in Turkey.

Any of our players having stand out seasons, since I don't follow basketball too much. Maybe some one could give an update as to the state of the NT coming into the World Championships. And which 12/13 players they think will make make the final cut.

Pos.↓ #↓ Name↓ ---------- ----- Age - DOB↓ Ht.↓ ------------------Club↓ ----------Club nat.↓
1.5 G Kus, Davor - July 21, 1978(1978-07-21) 1.92 m (6 ft 4 in) Pallacanestro Treviso Italy
1.5 G Planinić, Zoran September 12, 1982(1982-09-12) 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in) PBC CSKA Moscow Russia
1.5 G Popović, Marko June 12, 1982(1982-06-12) 1.85 m (6 ft 1 in) UNICS Kazan Russia
1.5 G Prostran, Toni April 9, 1991(1991-04-09) 1.82 m (5 ft 12 in) KK Zagreb Croatia
1.5 G Ukić, Roko December 5, 1984(1984-12-05) 1.96 m (6 ft 5 in) Fenerbahçe Ülker Turkey
1.5 G Simon, Krunoslav June 24, 1985(1985-06-24) 1.97 m (6 ft 6 in) KK Zagreb Croatia
1.5 G Stipčević, Rok May 25, 1986(1986-05-25) 1.84 m (6 ft 0 in) KK Zadar Croatia Croatia
1.5 G Vladović, Jakov April 17, 1983(1983-04-17) 1.87 m (6 ft 2 in) Lokomotiv Kuban Russia
1.5 G Rančić, Damir June 23, 1983(1983-06-23) 1.98 m (6 ft 6 in) KK Zadar Croatia
2.5 G/F Baždarić, Marino - November 25, 1978(1978-11-25) 1.97 m (6 ft 6 in) KK Cedevita Zagreb
2.5 G/F Bogdanović, Bojan - April 18, 1989(1989-04-18) 2.02 m (6 ft 8 in) KK Cibona Croatia
3.5 F Karlović, Matej November 1, 1989(1989-11-01) 2.00 m (6 ft 7 in) KK Svjetlost Croatia
3.5 F Markota, Damir December 26, 1985(1985-12-26) 2.09 m (6 ft 10 in) CB Bilbao Berri Spain
3.5 F Rozić, Marin February 14, 1983(1983-02-14) 2.02 m (6 ft 8 in) KK Cibona Croatia
3.5 F Perić, Hrvoje October 25, 1985(1985-10-25) 2.03 m (6 ft 8 in) KK Zadar Croatia
3.5 F Rudež, Damjan June 17, 1986(1986-06-17) 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) KK Cedevita Zagreb Croatia
3.5 F Stojić, Mario May 6, 1980(1980-05-06) 1.98 m (6 ft 6 in) CB Lucentum Alicante Spain
3.5 F Vrkić, Zoran August 16, 1987(1987-08-16) 2.01 m (6 ft 7 in) KK Split Croatia
4.5 F/C Andrić, Lukša May 29, 1985(1985-05-29) 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) KK Cibona Croatia
4.5 F/C Banić, Marko August 31, 1984(1984-08-31) 2.06 m (6 ft 9 in) CB Bilbao Berri Spain
4.5 F/C Delaš, Mario January 16, 1990(1990-01-16) 2.07 m (6 ft 9 in) BC Žalgiris Lithuania
4.5 F/C Pašalić, Drago June 23, 1984(1984-06-23) 2.11 m (6 ft 11 in) CB Bilbao Berri Spain
4.5 F/C Radošević, Leon February 26, 1990(1990-02-26) 2.09 m (6 ft 10 in) KK Cibona Croatia
4.5 F/C Suton, Goran August 11, 1985(1985-08-11) 2.08 m (6 ft 10 in) Spartak Saint Petersburg Russia
4.5 F/C Vukušić, Vedran December 18, 1982(1982-12-18) 2.04 m (6 ft 8 in) KK Cibona Croatia
4.5 F/C Zubčić, Tomislav January 17, 1990(1990-01-17) 2.11 m (6 ft 11 in) KK Cibona Croatia
4.5 F/C Žorić, Luka November 5, 1984(1984-11-05) 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) KK Zagreb Croatia
5.0 C Barać, Stanko August 13, 1986(1986-08-13) 2.17 m (7 ft 1 in) Caja Laboral Baskonia Spain
5.0 C Kasun, Mario April 5, 1980(1980-04-05) 2.16 m (7 ft 1 in) Efes Pilsen S.K. Turkey
5.0 C Lončar, Krešimir February 12, 1983(1983-02-12) 2.10 m (6 ft 11 in) UNICS Kazan Russia
5.0 C Tomić, Ante February 7, 1987(1987-02-07) 2.18 m (7 ft 2 in) Real Madrid Baloncesto Spain
5.0 C Vujčić, Nikola August 13, 1978(1978-08-13) 2.11 m (6 ft 11 in) Olympiacos B.C. Greece
 

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Rupa, where did you find this list? It's too early for naming of squads even prelim ones and it's also far too big (this list has over 30 names on it!). Also, it has players on it like Mario Kasun, who (at least for now) is "retired" from int'l basketball. I've got a feeling it's from last year.

Anyway, I suppose it's got every based covered in terms of players competing for the final squad:

Point guards: Ukić, Prostran, Stipčević, Vladović
Combo guards: Popović
Point forwards: Planinić
Shooting guards: Kus, Simon, Rančić, Baždarić
Swingmen: Tomas, Stojić, Bogdanović
Small forwards: Rozić, Perić, Rudež, Vrkić, Karlović
Forwards: Markota, Vukušić, Zubčić
Power forwards: Banić, Andrić, Delaš, Radošević
Power forward-centres: Lončar, Suton, Pašalić, Žorić
Centres: Vujčić, Tomić, Kasun, Barać

The prelim squad usually has 24-25 names on it. I think it will look something like this:

Ukić, Stipčević, Popović, Planinić, Kus, Simon, Baždarić, Tomas, Bogdanović, Rozić*, Perić, Rudež, Markota, Vukušić, Banić, Andrić, Delaš, Lončar, Suton, Žorić, Vujčić, Tomić, Kasun**, Barać

*provided he recovers fully from injury
** provided they are able to coax him out of "retirement"

Biggest problem is still the same: we lack a pure shooting guard and good shooters in general. Simon and and the veteran Baždarić will probably be given a chance to grab a spot in the 12 as back-up shooting guards. Bogdanović can also play there and adds versatility. He's been good in his debut season with Cibona and I'm pretty sure he'll also be in the picture. Small forward was a problem at last Eurobasket because Tomas was missing. This year it could be a problem if Rozić doesn't recover. Either way, Perić and Rudež will be given a chance to get on the squad. The big man department should be our strong area. If Kasun decides to play he should be joined by all the familiar faces plus Tomić and perhaps Suton. Guys like Žorić and Vukušić will be given a chance to impress after solid seasons with Zagreb and Cibona respectively. Out of all the really young guys I think only Delaš has a chance of being called up because they will have commitments with the U20's until late July.

After 2-3 weeks together the prelim squad is usually trimmed to 16-18.

Ukić, Popović, Planinić, Kus, Simon, Tomas, Bogdanović, Rozić*, Perić, Rudež, Markota, Banić, Lončar, Suton, Vujčić, Tomić, Kasun**, Barać

The final squad of 12 plus 2 reserves will probably look like this:

Roko Ukić, 25, 6'5", Fenerbahce (Turkey)
Marko Popović, 28, 6'1", UNICS Kazan (Russia)
Zoran Planinić, 27, 6'7", CSKA Moscow (Russia)
Krunoslav Simon, 25, 6'6", KK Zagreb (Croatia)
Marko Tomas, 25, 6'7", Cibona Zagreb (Croatia)
Bojan Bogdanović, 21, 6'8", Cibona Zagreb (Croatia)
Marko Banić, 26, 6'8", Bilbao Berri (Spain)
Krešimir Lončar, 27, 6'11", UNICS Kazan (Russia)
Goran Suton, 25, 6'10", Spartak St. Petersburg (Russia)
Nikola Vujčić, 32, 6'11", Olympiakos (Greece)
Ante Tomić, 23, 7'2", Real Madrid (Spain)
Stanko Barać, 24, 7'2", Caja Laboral (Spain)

Marin Rozić, 27, 6'8", Cibona Zagreb (Croatia)
Mario Kasun, 30, 7'1', Efes Pilsen (Turkey)
 

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^ I got it off of Wikipedia, they said it was updated February 19, 2010. I am going by what they are telling me. They also never had Marko Tomas on their list, so.................

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Croatia_national_basketball_team
I just found this list of names (with Tomas included) on the HKS website so it's obviously legit.

http://www.hks-cbf.hr/main.asp?dir=news&newsid=31754

I don't think all these guys will be coming to prve pripreme but it looks like no one outside of this list will be involved.

Anyway, since it is legit I guess I should put Davor Kus in the squad. I don't think he'd be on the prelim list if they didn't plan to have him in the final 12. Take out Simon or Bogdanović. Also, Baždarić will probably be a big chance to make it at least as a reserve since he's one of the only decent 3-point shooters we have.
 

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Marin Cilic has made the finals of Munich where he will face Russian Mikhail Youzhny
And he lost unfortunately. A close match where Maring should have gotten the edge a few times but then he spilled it late in the third letting Južni break and take the match.
 

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If anyone wants to see one of our teams lose another game at the buzzer go to 3:36...this time it's KK Split's juniors against FMP Belgrade (aided by some players from other clubs) at the annual Nike International Junior Tournament held in Paris last week...

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Judging from boxscores and some game reports... looks like Roko is having a very nice run since coming back from injury leading his team to the Turkish finals.
 

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French Open draw

Marin Cilic vs. Ricardo Mello (Brazil)
*In Federer's and Monfils' quarter
Ivan Ljubicic vs. Yen-Hsun Lu (Tapei)
Karlovic withdraws due to a foot injury, no young Croatians in this tournament

Karolina Sprem vs. Maria Kirilenko (Russia)
Petra Martic vs. Elena Dementieva (Russia)
 
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