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With all the fuss about the championship I almost forgot we have still to play the finals of the CI. Now that the team is focused on the scudetto, it isn't a good moment to play that game. But this result is in our hands whereas the scudetto depends on a slip-up by Inter that can happen or can't.
 

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hmm...

How to win without tiring players before the match against Brescia...

Well, Zalayeta and Amoruso should start. They deserve to start as well, since they were the strikers that (largely) got us to the cup final.

With some luck, Tudor and Montero might be back in time for the match against Brescia - so we don't have to worry (much) if we start Iuliano and Ferrara as out CB's.

Who to play at RB? Birindelli.

Who to play at LB? Paramatti. This gives us an excuse not to play him on Sunday :D and instead to field a 3-5-2 formation.

Midfield? Zenoni on the right, Tach (and possibly a youth team player, Rondinella maybe?) in the centre, Davids on the left.

Davids never gets tired, so no worries, right :D

Thoughts?
 

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We must win Coppa Italia, and we shouldn't risk. Victory in Coppa ITalia would give us a lot of confidence, and also extra morales:)
So Forza Juve, Scudetto and Coppa this year!:D
 

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It would be nice to win, in fact it would be great, But I could do without this game really. I'm more concerned with Sunday's game like everyone else no doubt.

Don't want to see Del Piero start or Nedved. I guess Lippi will stick with 'Juve 2' afterall, they're the ones that got us here, let them do the dirty work!;)
 

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since collina is the ref, we shouldnt play anyone, he is anti juve something shocking, play our under 10's.

i think we should play the following:

carini
birindelli ferrara iuliano parramatti:eek:
zenoni tacchinardi conte davids
zalayeta amoruso

play davids, as ralford said, he never gets tired and its good for him as the more he plays, the more he might wanna stay at the club.

conte is a definate for this game as he misses brescias game. zenoni, zalayeta, amoruso, carini, parramatti all basically got us this far so it is only fair that they start.

would not even put DP, Trez, thuram, nedved, montero, tudor and zambrotta on bench. we need them to win the scudetto.

guzman, pericard, rondinelli and the other youth players should come on if we need them to.

lets hope that davids plays well and doesnt get injured, as he is the only player who we need from this game.
 

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since collina is the ref, we shouldnt play anyone, he is anti juve something shocking, play our under 10's.

i think we should play the following:

carini
birindelli ferrara iuliano parramatti:eek:
zenoni tacchinardi conte davids
zalayeta amoruso

play davids, as ralford said, he never gets tired and its good for him as the more he plays, the more he might wanna stay at the club.

conte is a definate for this game as he misses brescias game. zenoni, zalayeta, amoruso, carini, parramatti all basically got us this far so it is only fair that they start.

would not even put DP, Trez, thuram, nedved, montero, tudor and zambrotta on bench. we need them to win the scudetto.

guzman, pericard, rondinelli and the other youth players should come on if we need them to.

lets hope that davids plays well and doesnt get injured, as he is the only player who we need from this game.
 

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Well, for Parma it's the only trophy they can win. If we play a B-team we could end up with nothing this season. I would play with Del Piero - Amoruso -Trez up front and substitute DP by Nedved and Trez by Zalayeta.
 

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Well, for Parma it's the only trophy they can win.
This doesn't mean we care about it. ;) In fact, only the presence in the final gives us most we could expect from Coppa Italia - a place in next year's UEFA Cup since you good gentlemen will be at CL.

Parma would love to play a second string line up too, but we have only 18 players available and since no team will play primavera players out of respect for the competition, we'll have to make do with them. Di Vaio, Cannavaro, Sensini, Bolano, Almeyda and Grieco are out. Frey, Junior, Benarrivo, Diana or Sartor, Sukur or Bonazzoli and either Lamouchi or Nakata will get their rest cause they are supposed to start against Fiorentina next weekend, so the line up should be something like this:


_______________Taffarel

______Djetou__Boghossian__Ferrari

Sartor________________________Gurenko

__________Appiah____Nakata

_______________Micoud

_______Marchionni_____Sukur
 

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To sum it up: NOONE gives a fùck about Coppa Italia, ;) we have priorities in Serie A and we must act accordingly. So, even if we're to lose Coppa Italia and Serie A in the end, I wouldn't risk key players such as Nedved, Del Piero nor Trézéguet. Anyway, I have the feeling we're gonna lose so beware! :D But as Amo said, and even if the Parma team he proposes looks cool, there won't be any pressure, that ensures a nice match of football, gentlemen! :)

BUT, there's something interesting about this match:
EL MATADOR IS BACK ! ... :lick:

> datasport.it
Juventus: in coppa Italia si rivede Salas 24/04/2002 10:16.08

La Juventus recupera un altro pezzo dall'infermeria. Si tratta dell'attaccante Marcelo Salas che tornerà finalmente in campo in questo finale di stagione, affrontando la finale di andata della coppa Italia che si gioca giovedì 25 aprile alle 20,45 allo stadio Delle Alpi di Torino tra Juve e Parma. Il cileno si era infortunato in Bologna-Juve del 20 ottobre scorso.
He probably won't start however. Logical.

And I fully agree with Mikey's point of view. Along with being too much of a risk, that would also be unfair not to play the fellas that got us to the final, so I definitely want to see Amoruso, Zalayeta e tutti ragazzi...

CUG, isn't Birindelli on the casualties list? I believe he is.

Here's the line-up I would pick:
[4-4-2]

-------------------- Carini -----------------------
Zenoni --- Ferrara --- Iuliano --- Paramatti
----------------- Tacchinardi -------------------
Zambrotta ------ Conte -------------- Davids
-------- Zalayeta --------- Amoruso ----------

In second half, we'll probably see Salas, Péricard and Guzman...

We don't give a fùck, we really don't give a fùck, I mean really really, but anyway:
Forza Juve !!! :strong::star:


PS - Take it easy with the post-match comments, Parma fans! I can already hear you b!tching about Collina being pro-Juve! ;)
 

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Salas is back indeed:

Salas Could Play Part In Coppa Final
Juventus - Parma | News Archive

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04/24/2002. Juventus striker Marcelo Salas is being tipped to play a part in his side's Coppa Italia final with Parma on Thursday night.

The Chilean international has been out since October after rupturing knee ligaments against Bologna.

However, the former Lazio man is now expected to make his long-awaited return and could take to the bench against the Gialloblu.
 

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Coppa Italia Final RTN Preview: Juventus-Parma, First Leg Match
Juventus - Parma | News Archive

Juventus' forward Pavel Nedved (Allsport)
04/24/2002. Juventus-Parma

AT STAKE
There will be plenty at stake on Thursday evening at the Delle Alpi stadium, where Juventus and Parma will face each other in the first leg of the Coppa Italia final.

The Serie A giants usually consider this competition as the less important goal of the season, but in the end the national Cup could be the only way for the Emiliani, and perhaps for the Bianconeri as well, to sweeten a somehow disappointing 2001/2002 campaign.

Unfortunately, the forthcoming World Cup forced the Italian federation to schedule this match before the end of the season, and this will inevitably affect this final. Indeed, both sides still have plenty to play for in the domestic league, although in totally opposite directions: Juventus trail league leaders Inter by one point with two rounds to go, while Parma hold a slight advantage over the relegation zone.

The huge importance of next Sunday's respective matches against Brescia and Fiorentina will reflect on the starting lineups of this first leg match: in a few words, both teams will field plenty of reserves.

TEAM NEWS

-Juventus: coach Lippi will give confidence to most of the players he fielded in the previous rounds, that's to say his reserves. Carini will relieve Buffon between the posts, while Amoruso and Zalayeta will form the offensive couple, with Del Piero and Trezeguet starting from the bench. Finally, Zenoni is expected to relieve Zambrotta on the right wing.

Probable line-up (4-3-1-2): Carini; Birindelli, Thuram, Iuliano, Paramatti; Zenoni, Conte, Davids; Nedved; Zalayeta, Amoruso

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-Parma: plenty of troubles for the guests, who will miss their most influential players: skipper Cannavaro is suspended and topscorer Di Vaio is sidelined with a muscular problem. Coach Carmignani, who will also miss injured Sensini, Bolano and Almeyda, is expected to field a 3-5-2 line-up, with right winger Marchionni advanced on the offensive line, alongside Bonazzoli.

Probable line-up (3-5-2): Taffarel; Djetou, Ferrari, Benarrivo; Diana, Appiah, Lamouchi, Nakata, Junior; Bonazzoli, Marchionni

ROAD TO THE FINAL

Juventus
1/8 finals: at Sampdoria 2-1 – vs. Sampdoria 5-2
Quarterfinals: vs. Atalanta 4-2 – at Atalanta 1-2
Semifinals: at Milan 2-1 – vs. Milan 1-1

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Parma

1/8 finals: at Messina 2-0 – vs. Messina 1-2
Quarterfinals: at Udinese 1-1 – vs. Udinese 0-0
Semifinals: vs. Brescia 2-0 – at Brescia 1-2

PLAYERS TO WATCH

-Juventus: Pavel Nedved. The Czech international can be devastating in his new position, that's to say behind the strikers. Both Amoruso and Zalayeta can create the spaces Pavel needs for his insertions and especially for his shots from outside the box.

-Parma: Marco Marchionni. This young forward is definitely one of the most talented Italian youngsters, and not by chance he's a point of reference of the Under 21 national team. Juve will have to pay attention to his quickness.

soccerage
 

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Juventus v Parma: probable line-ups

Juventus: Fabian Carini, Michele Paramatti, Igor Tudor, Cristian Zenoni, Alessandro Birindelli, Lilian Thuram, Antonio Conte, Pavel Nedved, Edgar Davids, Nicola Amoruso, Marcelo Zalayeta

Parma: Claudio Taffarel, Antonio Benarrivo, Luigi Sartor, Martin Djetou, Diana Stefano Aimo, Stephan Appiah, Sabri Lamouchi, Alain Boghossian, Johan Micoud, Marco Marchionni, Hakan Sukur

Referee: Pier Luigi Collina

Forza Juve...Always !!! :cool::cap::happy:
 

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Lippi wants Coppa win

Lippi wants Coppa win Thursday 25 April, 2002

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Marcello Lippi has announced that he will rest players for the Coppa Italia Final but claims that winning the trophy is a major objective.

Juventus face Parma at the Delle Alpi this evening in the first leg of the tie. But despite being the Final, Lippi has admitted that he will use several ‘reserve’ players with a crucial game against Brescia on the horizon.

"It is a complicated situation for both clubs. We’re going for the Scudetto while Parma are fighting for survival," said Lippi who defended his decision to put both Alex Del Piero and David Trezeguet on the bench.

"The players that will be selected on Sunday will not be overworked or forced to play the entire game this evening. We’ll be looking to save energy and make numerous changes."

Many pundits have questioned the importance of the Italian Cup with many clubs very rarely fielding their best sides throughout the competition. But Lippi maintains that Juventus are happy to have the chance to lift the trophy.

"We are delighted to be playing in the Final. It is an important objective even if it arrives in a very delicate part of our season. But we want the win because that would give us our tenth triumph and no one has ever won that many domestic cups in Italy," he added.

"It is the second most important trophy in Italy after the championship. And seeing as we’ve made it to the last hurdle it would be stupid to give up now.

"This trophy was never a ‘save our season objective’ because we are right back in the Scudetto race. But this is not a secondary fixture. We just need to use our heads with the game against Brescia coming up."

Probable line-ups:

Juventus: Carini; Birindelli, Thuram, Montero, Paramatti; Zenoni, Conte, Davids, Zambrotta; Amoruso, Zalayeta.

Parma: Taffarel; Djetou, Boghossian, Benarrivo, Sartor, Appiah, Lamouchi, Diana, Marchionni, Micoud, Sukur.
 
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