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Armagh City will not be playing in the new 12-team Premier League next season after being turned down for a domestic club licence by the IFA.

Fellow Carnegie Premier sides Larne and Limavady United have, as expected, also failed to gain a licence.

The remaining 13 top-flight clubs have been granted domestic licences along with First Division team Bangor.

Meanwhile, Glentoran, Cliftonville and Lisburn Distillery will play their European games at Mourneview Park.

The clubs have nominated the Lurgan venue as their stadium as their own grounds do not currently meet Uefa infrastructure regulations to host European football.

Six clubs have been granted Uefa club licences by the IFA - Ballymena United, Cliftonville, Glentoran, Linfield, Lisburn Distillery and Portadown.

Armagh, Crusaders, Donegal Celtic, Dungannon Swifts, Glenavon, Institute, Larne, Limavady and Newry City were refused Uefa licences.

Cliftonville have also selected Donegal Celtic's ground at Suffolk Road as their home venue for domestic games if building work at Solitude is not completed before the start of next season.

The clubs refused a domestic licence, which also include juniors Carrick Rangers and Ballymoney United, can appeal the decision.

The Irish FA has reduced the number of top flight teams for next season from 16 to 12 in an attempt to produce a more professionally-run Premier League.

The IFA is to investigate whether one Premier League club's application to join the new invitational league was submitted after the deadline. Local football bosses are to meet on Thursday and they could rule that the team's application be thrown out.

Clubs are expected to be told by 8 May who will be in the new set-up.
They were assessed on league position, attendances, facilities and also provision for women's and youth football.


IMO Teams with a chances are:

Guarenteed entry
Linfield
Glentoran
Cliftonville
Lisburn Distillery
Portadown
Ballymena United

Possibles
Crusaders
Donegal Celtic
Dungannon Swifts
Glenavon
Institute
Newry City
Bangor
Loughgall FC

Outsiders / no chance
Armagh
Larne,
Limavady
Carrick Rangers
Ballymoney United
+ all other 1st division teams
 

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Glentoran's ground not good enough for Europe?! IMO the Oval is a lot nicer than Mourneview Park. And if the grounds of Cliftonville and Glens are not good enough, why not play at Windsor so that they at least stay in Belfast instead of a 40 minute drive to Lurgan??

Apart from that it ain't a surprise that Armagh and especially Limavady (crap ground!) have been denied licenses. I am surprised Donegal Celtic got one, because their ground is an embarrasment as well.



The ideal 12 team league IMO:

Linfield
Glentoran
Cliftonville
Lisburn Distillery
Portadown
Ballymena United
Crusaders
Dungannon
Newry
Glenavon
Institute
Bangor
 

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Yea i agree with the 12 definatly the teams with the most potential and quality. This sould make the league more professional and think IFA have taken inspiration from FAI one this one with the license scheme.

Linfield isnt allowing those 3 teams access to their ground for european games because they are big rivals. Im also very surprised that Distillery's ground isnt fit to host european games as it is one of the better grounds in Irish league.
 

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Cliftonville played their last Intertoto games at Windsor. Linfield was happy enough with that:
1) Cliftonville paid them to use the stadium
2) to host the game of a "catholic" team further helped Linfield to clean up their previous sectarian image

I can understand why Linfield would refuse Glens to use Windsor Park but why would they refuse to host Distillery and Cliftonville? It would only mean extra money in Linfield's bank account + Distillery and C'ville would not have to travel more than half an hour to what is supposed to be a "home" game.
 

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Cliftonville may have paid Linfield for the use but it was actually a clause within the transfer of Conor Downey from Cliftonville to Linfield stating that Cliftonville will use Windsor for European games during 07/08 season. As far as im aware they only had to pay for the the match day expenses and also got 11k for Downey + future selling clauses i believe.

Anyway Solutides upgrades should be completed by end of August making it up to uefa standards
 

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Portadown out of Premier League

Shamrock Park wil be hosting intermediate football next season
Portadown will be playing intermediate football next season after losing their appeal over not being included in the new 12-team Premier League.

The Ports were excluded from the new top flight format because their application was submitted minutes after the deadline on 31 March.

The Shamrock Park club lodged an appeal against their exclusion.

On Tuesday the Irish FA announced that it was standing by the decision not to consider Portadown for a Premier place.

An IFA statement read: "The IFA Appeals Board, after hearing lengthy and detailed submissions from Portadown, unanimously agreed to reject the club's appeal on the basis that the required documentation was not submitted on or before the deadline set by the Association.

"Therefore the original decision made by the IFA Executive Committee on Wednesday, 30 April 2008 remains valid."

A Portadown official said the club would not make any public response until the board of directors had met.

IFA president Raymond Kennedy stressed that the appeal had been heard by an independent board.

"They had an exhaustive, drawn-out meeting on Monday night and I have been told they had a fair hearing," he said.

"It is unfortunate for Portadown but the appeal board has made the decision and we have to stick by that.

"I feel sorry for Portadown but it is not the end of the world.

"They are a big club and they will recover and bounce back to where they belong."
 

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Final 12

1 Linfield 1339 points
2 Ballymena United 1054
3 Glentoran 1016
4 Coleraine 965
5 Cliftonville 945
6 Dungannon Swifts 855
7 Glenavon 828
8 Crusaders 826
9 Lisburn Distillery 815
10 Newry City 796
11 Bangor 641
12 Institute 632
13 Donegal Celtic 543


Alot of controversy over this particuarly from Donegal Celtic, Portadown and Loughgall

Personally i think its disgraceful that Portadown havent been included, 3rd most successful club in the leagues history and the only club in recent years to break the dominance of the Belfast teams
 

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So Donegal Celtic lose their spot to Bangor basically?

I think it is quite harsh on Ports, and telling they will recover is quite easy said but how are they going to do that when there is no promotion the first seasons? This could kill the club basically, as games versus Chimney Corner and PSNI FC are not going to attract large crowds and bring lot of money...

Although it is harsh to exclude them for being less than half an hour late, why did they wait till the very last moment to send their application?? Why risk to be late if they knew the deadline months in advance?
 

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why did they wait till the very last moment to send their application?? Why risk to be late if they knew the deadline months in advance?

I think that was the arguement against them and why their appeal failed

The final structure hasnt yet been completed but President Raymond Kennedy has said he would like there to be promotion and relegation. The league is likely to follow a similar structure to Eircom with top team in 1st division only being accepted into Premiership if they meet certain criteria which a team like Portadown does.

D Celts have said they will look at possibility of goin to Eircom which is absolutly ridiculous as they wouldnt meet Eircoms criteria for top division and may also end up in 2nd tier so there is no point in that. But if they do try it should be blocked by UEFA IMO
 

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D Celts have said they will look at possibility of goin to Eircom which is absolutly ridiculous as they wouldnt meet Eircoms criteria for top division and may also end up in 2nd tier so there is no point in that. But if they do try it should be blocked by UEFA IMO
Where did you read that? On foot.ie I read nothing about that.

If it is true: should be blocked by not only UEFA but also by the Republic of Ireland FA.

I thought the purpose (of Setanta Cup and generally) is to make Ireland a society where religious divide no longer plays a role? So what is the point of the FAI to suddenly adopt all Northern Ireland based teams who have a "catholic background"?

Donegal Celtic are from Belfast, they should be in the Irish League. If they don't mean ground criteria it is their own fault, they should have invested in their ground right after promotion but 2 years later little has changed. Then you just ask for not meeting the criteria. And even if the UEFA would let them switch to the southern league, they would never meet the criteria for top flight football neither there. As long as their ground is not improved they won't get into the premier of neither Republic or North. And other than that it would make no sense ; Derry's case was entirely different.

DC apparently wants to try to get in to the Premier after all by protesting against Coleraine getting a license. Apparently Donegal Celtic wants to appeal against a license for a team with serious debts. I doubt their appeal has any chance, if Coleraine got their license then I'm sure this means they are paying off their debts according to plan and have little ground to be refused a license.
 

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Paddy Kelly , DC's manager said it on TV yesterday
 

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Ridiculous. Is this the answer to keeping Irish football free of political/religious divide? Why not putting all "nationalist" teams on the island in 1 league then? :lazy: DC should just not ridiculise themselves and accept that they miss out on the new league by own mistake. If they updated their stadium (they had 2 seasons time and did virtually nothing) then they would have been selected. Own fault that they did nothing to the stadium, which was a serious issue from day 1.´

A short while back DC said "we are devote to playing in the Irish FA's league". And now they come up with this crap??
 
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