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Azi dimineaţă, jucătorii lui CFR Cluj au hotărît să se destindă la meciul concitadinei, "U" Cluj cu UTA Arad, derbyul Seriei B3. Cu 5 minute înainte de final, feroviarii au părăsit tribuna pentru a merge la masă, în cantonamentul de la hotel "Sport", aflat în imediata apropiere a stadionului "Municipal". După masă, cîţiva dintre jucători s-au relaxat, plimbîndu-se în jurul hotelului. Scînteia conflictului s-a declanşat cînd 30 de suporteri ai "şepcilor roşii", în frunte cu unul dintre liderii lor, "Erji", supăraţi pe insuccesul echipei lor, 1-3, au aruncat cu pietre spre fotbaliştii CFR-ului, sărind mai apoi la bătaie.
Bruncevici a fost lovit în plină figură, căzînd fără cunoştinţă la pămînt. În apărarea sa, a sărit masorul Eugen Jaşcău, care în încăierare şi-a rupt doi dinţi. Furia fanilor s-a îndreptat împotriva lui Anca, care încercînd să se apere a fost lovit cu un fier în mînă, fiind suspect de fractură. Cu răni uşoare au scăpat Georgievski, Turcu, Oncică şi Toma. În schimb, Boroştean şi Tilincă s-au ales cu leziuni grave, primul suspect de fractură de mandibulă, iar cel din urmă cu o leziune de timpan, curgîndu-i minute bune sînge din urechea dreaptă. Fanii lui "U" s-au împrăştiat în momentul cînd au intervenit şi jandarmii de la stadion, luaţi prin surprindere de rapiditatea evenimentelor. Totul a durat mai puţin de 5 minute.
Basically the CFR players were at the U Cluj - UTA Arad, Divizia B match this morning which was held at the Municipal stadium where CFR were to play a few hours later in Divizia A against Apulum. 5 minutes before the game ended, all the CFR players left the stadium to go back to their hotel which is right beside the stadium. After they ate, some CFR players went out to relax around the hotel when 30 'U' fans started throwing rocks at them; angry about the 3-1 loss to UTA they just suffered. This ended up in a bad fight. Bruncevic was left unconcious, Jascau broke two teeth, Adrian Anca possibly fractured his hand and Georgievski, Turcu, Onica and Toma came out with light injuries. Borostean and Tilinca came off worst of the lot, the first with a broken jaw and the second got an injury to his eardrum which bled for several minutes. The 'U' fans were stopped in the end by the guards at the stadium about 5 minutes after it all started. CFR still managed to beat Apulum later on with quite a few of the injured players on the picth, 2-1; their goals both scored by Florin Dan.
 

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U cluj should be penalised and fined, their fans should be arrested.
 

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U Cluj should be penalised and fined? For what, losing and getting some of their fans a bit angry?

It's not their problem that some supporters start fights on the streets. Plus, the fine money won't be spent anywhere useful.
 

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They have to set an example, plus the fine can be taken out of the budget for the fans. This worked pretty well in Italy.
 

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Raven said:
U Cluj should be penalised and fined? For what, losing and getting some of their fans a bit angry?

It's not their problem that some supporters start fights on the streets. Plus, the fine money won't be spent anywhere useful.
the only way to civilize the fans is to punish the club. This way they will learn to behave in the future :eyepatch:
 

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That's not true at all. In Holland they tried that also but those so called fans don't care about the fines their club gets cause they are brainless idiots who are more out for sensation and fighting then for really supporting their club. Clubs can't do nothing about these kind of people. If their club get's punished it won't stop them at all. So that's not right. Police should be harder with these people and take more precautions. If these hooligans get the chance to beat up players from a rival club they will do it anyway, you can't stop these people. The only thing you can do is take precautions so that they don't get the chance to do this. But the last thing they should do is punish the club.
 

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That's not true at all. In Holland they tried that also but those so called fans don't care about the fines their club gets cause they are brainless idiots who are more out for sensation and fighting then for really supporting their club. Clubs can't do nothing about these kind of people. If their club get's punished it won't stop them at all. So that's not right. Police should be harder with these people and take more precautions. If these hooligans get the chance to beat up players from a rival club they will do it anyway, you can't stop these people. The only thing you can do is take precautions so that they don't get the chance to do this. But the last thing they should do is punish the club.

I agree, but a good punishment would be to play for ex. 5 home games without spectators, like Real- Roma in the CL, so when they have to stay home for that many weeks they´ll suffer a bit. Plus that way the rest of the fans would strongly oppose to violent acts.
Another good punishment is the banning of dangeros fans from stadiums permanently, cause most of the times they are always the same guys.
They don´t care about a fine and even about their team loosing points, but they do care to have their lifestyle and business (At least here many hooligans profit from football) altered
 

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In Argentina there have been very difficult situations with hooligans and with violence. How did they stop such acts? What measures were taken?
 

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In Argentina there have been very difficult situations with hooligans and with violence. How did they stop such acts? What measures were taken?
Sadly i can´t say those things are over... but they have improved. At least we haven´t had a very violent episode in a while. There are Video cameras in the stadiums to register and identify violent acts, and The man in charge of the security is a former referee that has done well, taking important measures. But many things happen because hooligans have economic interests and put pressure on clubs bosses
 

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U cluj should be penalised and fined, their fans should be arrested.
totally agree, but this the Romanian Federation that should take this action against the U Cluj club..like i said they should of taken action against the Dinamo fans that bashed those Poli supporters last month in Bucuresti...if the Federation takes action against the clubs then the club takes action against those fans responsible for what happened.
 

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15 U Cluj fans were arrested, their leader is currently being pursued.
 

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Now that's something that helps. Not punishing the clubs. Feyenoord fans threw firework at the goalkeeper from Sporting Lissabon at a time of the match that Feyenoord was doing very good. After that happened it all went from good to worse and they lost the match. Now they play 1 game without spectators. But this is certainly not the first time it happened to them. And it is like that because when you say that a team has to play without spectators that means that most people that come to the game are punished also by this small group. So punishments like that are not given to much and not for too many matches and that's normal cause it's ridiculous if this group ***** it up for the rest. Punsihing the club never hepls. It's already proven.
 

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Are u sure they were beaten up by U Cluj fans?? IT seems weird they would beat up players from a team in the same City. I thought it was Poli Iasi fans that beat up CFR Cluj players but perhaps I was wrong...
 

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It would be weird if they beat up a players of a different city. It's called rivalry man. It's what makes Steaua-Dinamos so tense aswell.
 
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