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they're 16th at the moment so it might get close :lala:
And to think you used to call yoursel a Milanista lol.
My answer to your question is:
even during those the average is only around 64 points and this +4pts has been offset by the bad start already...but 3 out of the last 3 seasons. No risk of relegation anyway.
If Giampaolo is sacked soon Milan will obviously be 10-16, if he is kept till the end of the season it is highly unlikely that it will happen.While Giampaolo stays, Milan will very likely be between 10-16 position, based on the performances so far and how utterly clueless the guy has seemed in every visible aspect of his job. He'll probably leave Milan close to the relegation zone by the time he is sacked. Which is likely to be sooner rather than later.
Sure the players are mediocre and all, but this team is playing a million times worse than last season. Absolutely every player is doing worse. Results are also worse. The team just gave up in front of its own fans last game. All that is obviously on the coach. This guy fielded Borini as central midfielder in his debut ffs, along with four other players completely out of position and several more in roles that made their game ineffective.
You don't need Cristiano Ronaldo and De Ligt to prevent losing to a shitty Udinese without a single shot on goal, or from being humiliated at home by a mediocre Fiorentina. The squad is good enough for a 4-8 finish.
But yeah Milan fans who watch every game "do not have a clue".
In 2015/2016 Juventus had 5 points after 6 games and they won the scudetto nevertheless. Allegri had already been sacked by 99% of supporters of course, but it's a thing which had already happened before and it happened later, whenever he didn't win.even during those the average is only around 64 points and this +4pts has been offset by the bad start already...
relegation talk is of course in jest
but if they lose at Genoa over the weekend then they will indeed be in relegation zone
So you don't watch the games but you say you know how many points teams are going to make and how good they are. :googly: No one can predict the future, but those who don't watch definitely can't.Milan is pretty much as good or as bad as it was one season ago so if Giampaolo after 38 games gains 68 points he has done what one would expect from him with this team. If you sack him now you will never know, maybe you prefer it that way!
And yeah, watching games doesn't automatically give a clue. It is odd that people who think coaches are clueless pretend that any supporter who watches the games has a clue!
Sorry, I could not watch all serie A games even if I wanted. And yeah, it might happen that people who don't watch ALL the games might have a clue while people who pretend they watch every game have none, the way there are people who need one minute to learn a thing and people who would not learn it in one century.So you don't watch the games but you say you know how many points teams are going to make and how good they are. :googly: No one can predict the future, but those who don't watch definitely can't.
It is not "my boy", dear community manager, he is just a former coach of Sampdoria. I won't enter the "it has been the worst Milan..." thing, a supporter thing, a hyperbole. Bad? Ok. So far it is just 6 games anyway. I understand it could be more than enough in football, but I also know it ISN'T really enough to judge the work of "my boy" or anyone else, dear community manager. After 6 games you might have the feeling it is not going to work forever and prefer to change the coach, fair enough.I don't have anything against your boy Giampaolo, just call it as I see it -- so far this is the worst Milan I've ever seen. By a distance. I've watched almost every game, every season for the past 30 years.
I don't understand the reason why you go on repeating this when I have never written anything which might suggest the opposite. Actually I have written Giampaolo had similar problems at Sampdoria in the first 6 games of his first season. You want him sacked? Let's hope together that he will be sacked! Hopefully he will also come back to Sampdoria at the beginning of the next season.Milan so far are much, much worse than last season in all aspects of the game, with a similar or better squad. This is not just fans' impressions. Look at the stats from the games. Look at the formations in some of the games. Look at the things the managers says when he talks to the press. Look at the results and against who they were. It's all objectively shit.
It matters the amount of points you gain at the end of the season because 68 points is not enough for the CL spot most of times. I'm not sure I get your argument anyway. Is Milan really any better if Roma and Lazio choke? I was talking about points and using Roma and Lazio just to tell you that almost reaching a target thanks to the other clubs choking doesn't mean that in the following seasons the situation might be similar.... unless "my boy" affects the performances of Lazio and Roma too.You can repeat the amount of points and the Roma teams spiel, but the reality is that what matters is how you do relative to other teams.
I'm pretty sure I have explained before that I don't think Giampaolo(or anyone else) had a real chance to enter the top 4 of serie A. The one with Juventus was just a huge example of a club having a very poor start of the season in terms of points and turning things for the better (much better indeed!). I was not going to compare Milan to Juventus for sure! There are many examples, Ahmed mentioned another, a better one indeed, because I remember the supporters of Atalanta saying that Gasperini was an idiot.You mention Juve and Allegri, but this is a poor Milan, not a brilliant up-and-coming Juve, and Giampaolo has the CV of a mediocre manager, whereas Allegri had already won the league and generally performed above expectations for Milan.
Your opinion. It is as good or as bad as any other opinion.Giampaolo's career is divided between good spells at Ascoli and Empoli (i.e. midtable finishes), a bunch of failures at teams like Cesena, and more mid table finishes at Sampdoria. People may say very nice things about him, but I see no reason to believe that he can take this Milan to anything higher than midtable, and a lot to believe that the longer he stays, the more likely a catastrophic outcome.
I'm not sure I find that line in which I wrote Milan played great football up to now, maybe you can help me with your super community manager powers... I believe I just wrote that I think Giampaolo can turn things for the better, if he is given the chance (which I doubt). At Sampdoria he was one goal of Bruno Fernandes in the loss time away from being sacked, before things turned good, so you understand episodes are crucial.... but I'm talking to a guy who watched almost all the games in the last 30 season so I don't need to tell him that episodes are crucial in changing the fate of players, teams... and coaches!If Milan keep playing like a Serie B team, as anyone who actually watches the games will agree, things won't look great.
Yeah but it would be easy to find much more examples of teams having 5-6 pts after 6 rounds and ending up having shit seasons. I mean this is what usually happens.In 2015/2016 Juventus had 5 points after 6 games and they won the scudetto nevertheless. Allegri had already been sacked by 99% of supporters of course, but it's a thing which had already happened before and it happened later, whenever he didn't win.
One year later, in his first season at Sampdoria, Giampaolo had 6 points after 6 games and was very close to be sacked, or at least 99% of supporters wanted him sacked (me included tbh). In the end he has spent three good seasons with Sampdoria.
Now it is possible that Genoa win in the next weekend and that would be lethal to Giampaolo, because of that 99% of supporters, but if it happened I'd remain confident he could have turned things for the better if he had been given the chance.