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It started today.

I'm opening this topic to discuss about the games, teams, players and everything related to the championship.

Here are the rules:

- There are 21 teams divided in two groups:

Group 1:

São Paulo *
Corinthians *
Ponte Preta *
Portuguesa
Portuguesa Santista
Rio Branco
Juventus
América
União Barbarense
Sorocaba

Group 2:

Santos *
Palmeiras *
São Caetano *
Guarani *
Marília
União São João
Ituano
Santo André
Paulista
Mogi-Mirim
Oeste

* Teams in Serie A

The 4 best teams in each group advance to the next round. Then, they will face each other (1A x 4B, 2Ax3B etc) in a single eliminatory match, then there are the semifinals and finals (with two eliminatory matches).

I'll try to update this first post with info about the major teams (signings, lineup, etc).

Here are the matchday one games:

15h30 Sorocaba 2 x 2 Corinthians
20h30 Palmeiras x Paulista
20h30 Oeste x Santos
20h30 São Caetano x Mogi Mirim
20h30 Ituano x União São João
20h30 Guarani x Marília
20h30 São Paulo x Ponte Preta
20h30 Portuguesa santista x Portuguesa
20h30 Rio Branco x União Barbarense
20h30 América x Juventus

All times in brazilian time, of course.
 

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I saw the second half of Sorocaba x Corinthians and as eager I might be to say that Corinthians start of the year indicates a failure, it wouldn't be fair basing on this game.

With a lot of rain, the grass became mud and teams couldn't pass the ball in 80% of the field. Players which carry the ball couldn't do anything (Gil, for example) and passes were stopped by the mud.

Sorocaba took advantage of this in the second half, since the side that they attacked was a little better, and scored a beautiful goal with a great individual play by Luciano, who touched the ball between Rogério's legs and scored (Fábio Costa could do better).

Corinthians managed to tie with a free kick which Adrianinho took. It went to Anderson's head who tried the goal but the ball stopped in Rafael Silva, who was all alone in the small box and scored in his first game.

It's hard to say something based on this match, but I have to say that Adriano impressed me. The guy is an amazing free kick taker and he seemed very skilled, too.

Corinthians was missing Marcelo Ramos and Rincón who weren't registered yet.
 

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Results of the first round:

Sorocaba 2 x 2 Corinthians
Palmeiras 5 x 2 Paulista
Oeste 0 x 1 Santos
São Caetano 3 x 2 Mogi Mirim
Ituano 2 x 1 União São João
Guarani 1 x 1 Marília
São Paulo 0 x 0 Ponte Preta
Portuguesa santista 2 x 2 Portuguesa
Rio Branco 1 x 2 União Barbarense
América 5 x 1 Juventus


Comments: It seems like all of the big clubs except for Palmeiras had trouble in the first round. Santos (without five os its best players) and São Caetano had narrow wins and São Paulo played better but couldn't score against a very defensive Ponte Preta.

Palmeiras, on the other hand, looked impressive. I think that the team can surprise some with a "São Caetano style". Jair Picerni knows how to do it.


PRÓXIMA RODADA: 24 e 25/01

Marília x Palmeiras
Corinthians x Rio Branco
Juventus x Sorocaba
Santos x São Caetano
Santo André x Oeste
Paulista x Ituano
Mogi Mirim x Guarani
Ponte Preta x Portuguesa santista
Portuguesa x São Paulo
União Barbarense x América
 

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Results of the second round:

Marília 2 x 1 Palmeiras
Juventus 3 x 2 Sorocaba
Corinthians 2 x 1 Rio Branco
Santos 1 x 1 São Caetano
Santo André 3 x 1 Oeste
Paulista 3 x 1 Ituano
Mogi Mirim 1 x 1 Guarani
Ponte Preta 3 x 3 Portuguesa Santista
Portuguesa 2 x 3 São Paulo Canindé
União Barbarense 0 x 0 América

The standings:

Group 1

Pos. Clubes PG J V E D GP GC SG
1º América 4 2 1 1 0 5 1 4
Corinthians 4 2 1 1 0 4 3 1
São Paulo 4 2 1 1 0 3 2 1
União Barbarense 4 2 1 1 0 2 1 1
5º Juventus 3 2 1 0 1 4 7 -3
6º Portuguesa San. 2 2 0 2 0 5 5 0
Ponte Preta 2 2 0 2 0 3 3 0
8º Portuguesa 1 2 0 1 1 4 5 -1
Sorocaba 1 2 0 1 1 4 5 -1
10º Rio Branco 0 2 0 0 2 2 4 -2

Group 2
PG J V E D GP GC SG
1º São Caetano 4 2 1 1 0 4 3 1
Marília 4 2 1 1 0 3 2 1
Santos 4 2 1 1 0 2 1 1
4º Palmeiras 3 2 1 0 1 6 4 2
Santo André 3 1 1 0 0 3 1 2
Paulista 3 2 1 0 1 5 6 -1
Ituano 3 2 1 0 1 3 4 -1
8º Guarani 2 2 0 2 0 2 2 0
9º Mogi Mirim 1 2 0 1 1 3 4 -1
10º União São João 0 1 0 0 1 1 2 -1
Oeste 0 2 0 0 2 1 4 -3

Next round (or mini-round..):

28/01
Santos x Mogi Mirim
São Caetano x Santo André
Guarani x Paulista
União São João x Marília
Ituano x Palmeiras

I will comment about the games later.
 

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Mid-week results:

Santos 4 x 0 Mogi Mirim
São Caetano 0 x 0 Santo André
Guarani 1 x 2 Paulista
União São João 1 x 2 Marília
Ituano 0 x 1 Palmeiras

- Santos had four of its players back and all of them played well, especially Robinho. Diego didn't play but may be available for this weekend match against Palmeiras.

- Guarani fired Barbieri after poor results in the beginning of the season.


Next Round: 31/01 and 1º/02

Juventus x Ponte Preta
União Barbarense x Corinthians
Palmeiras x Santos
Santo André x União São João
Paulista x Oeste
Guarani x São Caetano
Mogi Mirim x Ituano
Portuguesa santista x São Paulo
Portuguesa x Sorocaba
América x Rio Branco
 

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Fala grande HuMer, vê se posta mais por aqui!

Results of the last weekend:

01/02
União Barbarense 0 x 0 Corinthians
Palmeiras 2 x 2 Santos
Santo André 4 x 3 União São João
Paulista 3 x 3 Oeste
Guarani 1 x 1 São Caetano
Mogi Mirim 0 x 1 Ituano
Portuguesa santista 1 x 4 São Paulo
Portuguesa 2 x 3 Sorocaba
América 1 x 0 Rio Branco


The standings:

Group 1

1º América 7 3 2 1 0 6 1 5
São Paulo 7 3 2 1 0 7 3 4
3º Corinthians 5 3 1 2 0 4 3 1
União Barbarense 5 3 1 2 0 2 1 1
5º Sorocaba 4 3 1 1 1 7 7 0
6º Juventus 3 2 1 0 1 4 7 -3
7º Portuguesa santista 2 3 0 2 1 6 9 -3
Ponte Preta 2 2 0 2 0 3 3 0
9º Portuguesa 1 3 0 1 2 6 8 -2
10º Rio Branco 0 3 0 0 3 2 5 -3

Group 2

1º Santos 8 4 2 2 0 8 3 5
2º Palmeiras 7 4 2 1 1 9 6 3
Santo André 7 3 2 1 0 7 4 3
Marília 7 3 2 1 0 5 3 2
Paulista 7 4 2 1 1 10 10 0
6º São Caetano 6 4 1 3 0 5 4 1
Ituano 6 4 2 0 2 4 5 -1
8º Guarani 3 4 0 3 1 4 5 -1
9º Oeste 1 3 0 1 2 4 7 -3
Mogi Mirim 1 4 0 1 3 3 9 -6
11º União São João 0 3 0 0 3 5 8 -3


Next round:
08/02
América x São Paulo
Palmeiras x Guarani
Oeste x São Caetano
Marília x Paulista
Santo André x Santos
União São João x Mogi Mirim
Corinthians x Portuguesa
Sorocaba x Portuguesa santista
Ponte Preta x União Barbarense
Rio Branco x Juventus

I'm too lazy and now without time to write something about the games and the teams, but I'll try to do something next week.
 

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Great thread, Roberto. I don't speak portuguese so it really makes it difficult to stay informed about the Campeonato Paulista and keep up with the latest news. Keep up the good work, buddy. :)
 

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Samir

Can someone please explain what Samir is doing in Corinthians?
He was nothing but ordinary playing for Vitoria. Actually he was sitting on the bench most of the time.
 

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Last weekend results:

América 0 x 2 São Paulo
Palmeiras 4 x 1 Guarani
Oeste 2 x 2 São Caetano
Marília 1 x 3 Paulista
Santo André 1 x 3 Santos
União São João 2 x 5 Mogi Mirim
Corinthians 0 x 1 Portuguesa
Sorocaba 0 x 0 Portuguesa santista
Ponte Preta 0 x 0 União Barbarense
Rio Branco 1 x 0 Juventus
11/02
Juventus 0 x 3 Ponte Preta

New standings:


Group 1
Pos. Clubes PG J V E D GP GC SG
1º São Paulo 10 4 3 1 0 9 3 6
2º América 7 4 2 1 1 6 3 3
3º Ponte Preta 6 4 1 3 0 6 3 3
União Barbarense 6 4 1 3 0 2 1 1
5º Sorocaba 5 4 1 2 1 7 7 0
Corinthians 5 4 1 2 1 4 4 0
7º Portuguesa 4 4 1 1 2 7 8 -1
8º Rio Branco 3 4 1 0 3 3 5 -2
Juventus 3 4 1 0 3 4 11 -7
Portuguesa santista 3 4 0 3 1 6 9 -3

Group 2
Pos. Clubes PG J V E D GP GC SG
1º Santos 11 5 3 2 0 11 4 7
2º Palmeiras 10 5 3 1 1 13 7 6
Paulista 10 5 3 1 1 13 11 2
4º Santo André 7 4 2 1 1 8 7 1
Marília 7 4 2 1 1 6 6 0
São Caetano 7 5 1 4 0 7 6 1
7º Ituano 6 4 2 0 2 4 5 -1
8º Mogi Mirim 4 5 1 1 3 8 11 -3
9º Guarani 3 5 0 3 2 5 9 -4
10º União São João 0 4 0 0 4 7 13 -6
11º Oeste* -10 4 0 2 2 6 9 -3

Oeste lost 12 points for putting irregular players to play.

Top goalscorers:

7 GOLS
Luís Fabiano (São Paulo)
5 GOLS
Sorato (Marília).
4 GOLS
Gílson Batata (Mogi Mirim); Vágner Love (Palmeiras).

This weekend games:

14/02
Portuguesa santista x América
Portuguesa x Ponte Preta
Juventus x União Barbarense

15/02
Santos x União São João
São Caetano x Marília
Ituano x Guarani
Paulista x Santo André
Mogi Mirim x Oeste
São Paulo x Corinthians
Sorocaba x Rio Branco
 

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Results:

Portuguesa santista 2 x 1 América
Portuguesa 1 x 1 Ponte Preta
Juventus 2 x 1 União Barbarense
Santos 8 x 3 União São João
São Caetano 0 x 1 Marília
Ituano 0 x 1 Guarani
Paulista 2 x 0 Santo André
Mogi Mirim 1 x 2 Oeste
São Paulo 1 x 0 Corinthians
Sorocaba 1 x 2 Rio Branco


New standings:

Group 1
1º São Paulo 13 5 4 1 0 10 3 7
2º América 7 5 2 1 2 7 5 2
Ponte Preta 7 5 1 4 0 7 4 3
Rio Branco 6 5 2 0 3 5 6 -1
Juventus 6 5 2 0 3 6 12 -6
4º União Barbarense 6 5 1 3 1 3 3 0
Portuguesa santista 6 5 1 3 1 8 10 -2
Portuguesa 5 5 1 2 2 8 9 -1
8º Sorocaba 5 5 1 2 2 8 9 -1
Corinthians 5 5 1 2 2 4 5 -1

Group 2
1º Santos 14 6 4 2 0 19 7 12
2º Paulista 13 6 4 1 1 15 11 4
3º Palmeiras 10 5 3 1 1 13 7 6
Marília 10 5 3 1 1 7 6 1
5º Santo André 7 5 2 1 2 8 9 -1
São Caetano 7 6 1 4 1 7 7 0
7º Ituano 6 5 2 0 3 4 6 -2
Guarani 6 6 1 3 2 6 9 -3
9º Mogi Mirim 4 6 1 1 4 9 13 -4
10º União São João 0 5 0 0 5 10 21 -11
11º Oeste* -7 5 1 2 2 8 10 -2


Top Goalscorers:

Luís Fabiano (São Paulo)
5 GOLS
Sorato (Marília) e Basílio (Santos) .
4 GOLS
Gílson Batata (Mogi Mirim); Vágner Love (Palmeiras); Robinho (Santos); Luciano Henrique (Sorocaba


Next round:

21/02
Santos x Marília
Oeste x Ituano
São Caetano x Palmeiras
Mogi Mirim x Santo André
União São João x Paulista
São Paulo x Sorocaba
União Barbarense x Portuguesa
América x Ponte Preta
 

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Results:

Santos 3 x 1 Marília
Oeste 1 x 4 Ituano
São Caetano 1 x 0 Palmeiras
Mogi Mirim 0 x 1 Santo André
União São João 0 x 2 Paulista
São Paulo 3 x 0 Sorocaba
União Barbarense 1 x 1 Portuguesa
América 0 x 1 Ponte Preta


New standings:

Group 1
1º São Paulo 16 6 5 1 0 13 3 10
2º Ponte Preta 10 6 2 4 0 8 4 4
3º América 7 6 2 1 3 7 6 1
União Barbarense 7 6 1 4 1 4 4 0
5º Rio Branco 6 5 2 0 3 5 6 -1
Juventus 6 5 2 0 3 6 12 -6
Portuguesa 6 6 1 3 2 9 10 -1
Portuguesa santista 6 5 1 3 1 8 10 -2
9º Corinthians 5 5 1 2 2 4 5 -1
Sorocaba 5 6 1 2 3 8 12 -4


Group 2
1º Santos 17 7 5 2 0 22 8 14
2º Paulista 16 7 5 1 1 17 11 6
3º Palmeiras 10 6 3 1 2 13 8 5
Santo André 10 6 3 1 2 9 9 0
Marília 10 6 3 1 2 8 9 -1
São Caetano 10 7 2 4 1 8 7 1
7º Ituano 9 6 3 0 3 8 7 1
8º Guarani 6 6 1 3 2 6 9 -3
9º Mogi Mirim 4 7 1 1 5 9 14 -5
10º União São João 0 6 0 0 6 10 23 -13
11º Oeste* -7 6 1 2 3 9 14 -5


Top goalscorers:

8 GOLS
Luís Fabiano (São Paulo)
6 GOLS
Robinho (Santos)
5 GOLS
Sorato (Marília) e Basílio (Santos) .
4 GOLS
Gílson Batata (Mogi Mirim); Vágner Love (Palmeiras); Lucas (Portuguesa) e Luciano Henrique (Sorocaba)


Next round:

Portuguesa santista x Rio Branco
Corinthians x Juventus
Oeste x Guarani
Marília x Mogi Mirim
Santo André x Ituano
Paulista x Santos
União São João x Palmeiras
 

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Results:
Portuguesa santista 1 x 0 Rio Branco
Oeste 2 x 2 Guarani
Marília 3 x 0 Mogi Mirim
Santo André 1 x 1 Ituano
Paulista 4 x 0 Santos
União São João 1 x 5 Palmeiras
Corinthians 3 x 2 Juventus

Standings:
Group 1:
Pos. Clubes PG J V E D GP GC SG
1º São Paulo 16 6 5 1 0 13 3 10
2º Ponte Preta 10 6 2 4 0 8 4 4
3º Portuguesa santista 9 6 2 3 1 9 10 -1
4º Corinthians 8 6 2 2 2 7 7 0
5º América 7 6 2 1 3 7 6 1
União Barbarense 7 6 1 4 1 4 4 0
7º Rio Branco 6 6 2 0 4 5 7 -2
Juventus 6 6 2 0 4 8 15 -7
Portuguesa 6 6 1 3 2 9 10 -1
10º Sorocaba 5 6 1 2 3 8 12 -4

Group 2:
Pos. Clubes PG J V E D GP GC SG
1º Paulista 19 8 6 1 1 21 11 10
2º Santos 17 8 5 2 1 22 12 10
3º Palmeiras 13 7 4 1 2 18 9 9
Marília 13 7 4 1 2 11 2 -1
5º Santo André 11 7 3 2 2 10 10 0
6º Ituano 10 7 3 1 3 9 8 1
São Caetano 10 7 2 4 1 8 7 1
8º Guarani 7 7 1 4 2 8 11 -3
9º Mogi Mirim 4 8 1 1 6 9 17 -8
10º União São João 0 6 0 0 6 10 23 -13
11º Oeste* -6 7 1 3 3 11 16 -5


Top goalscorers:
8 GOLS
Luís Fabiano (São Paulo)
7 GOLS
Vágner Love (Palmeiras)
6 GOLS
Robinho (Santos)
5 GOLS
Sorato (Marília) e Basílio (Santos)
4 GOLS
Wellington Paulista (Juventus); Gílson Batata (Mogi Mirim); Izaias e João Paulo (Paulista); Lucas (Portuguesa) e Luciano Henrique (Sorocaba); João Paulo (União São João)

Next round:
29/02
Palmeiras x Oeste
Marília x Santo André
Ituano x São Caetano
Paulista x Mogi Mirim
Sorocaba x América
Ponte Preta x Corinthians
Portuguesa x Juventus
Rio Branco x São Paulo
União Barbarense x Portuguesa santista
 

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Caiu de Quatro!

Roberto Gallo said:
Results:
Paulista 4 x 0 Santos
:dazed: I didn't see this game... did Santos use all the starters or did they spare their 1st team for the Libertadores? I mean, that score is embarassing. :mute:
 

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I didn't see the game, but Santos played with their whole starting eleven. Not even a single piece missing.

Doni is a joke, how could Leao sign him??
 

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And Juventus/SP was totally "garfado" against Corinthians yesterday. Juventus was winning by 2x0 until Gil dived inside the area (a CLEAR dive, Gil himself admitted hat he dived because there was nothing else he could do!:wth: ), when the shameless referee invented a penalty AND sent off the defender who DIDN'T commit the "penalty". :devil: With the numerical advantage inside the pitch, Corinthians was finally able to win, in Oswaldo Oliveira's return to his old job. :rollani:

Here's the interview where Gil admits that he dived. "I did my part, which was to dive; the ref gave the penalty. I wouldn't have reached the ball.". :thumbdwn: :yuck:
 
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