[red]

red is always worried, he was worried when we were 11 points ahead of Milan

We just lost/drew 4 of the easiest remaining games for the season.

This a bit like saying "red was worried when Nacka was driving us at 40 kmh down the highway.... now Fird is driving 150 kmh toward the edge of a cliff - we're well placed to survive!"

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

We just lost/drew 4 of the easiest remaining games for the season.

This a bit like saying "red was worried when Nacka was driving us at 40 kmh down the highway.... now Fird is driving 150 kmh toward the edge of a cliff - we're well placed to survive!"

We dropped from 2nd place to .. 2nd place after all those dropped points. So it's more like a small speed bump rather than falling off a cliff. But it's the typical exaggerated reaction so it's ok 🤷

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

I am far more worried about the Roman teams.

^ Feb 27th

Feb 28th:

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

Roma have juve, Sassuolo and Lazio next. With tough, important EL games against Real Sociedad in between.

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

If we had cash to burn and could say "hey, let's try next year", that would be okay. But we don't have that...seems we've missed what look like the best shots we'll have in a while if the financial situation stays like this.

Napoli didn't need cash to burn to win this Scudetto and neither did Milan spend a lot to win in 21-22.

I think we will mainly need a Skriniar replacement, a Dumfries replacement, a Gagliardini cm backup replacement, a Gosens replacement if he is sold and a Correa replacement.

Guerrero or Bensabini for lwb (both free agents), recall Agoume or the Reggina dude Fabian as backup cm, Thuram (free agent), rwb with Dumfries sale money, so really just spend for a CB and Marotta may even find someone cheap or free. We don't need a 100mill mercato to improve this squad.

Just remember that a flop like Gabigol cost Inter more than JZ+Maicon+Cambiasso+Julio Cesar+Lucio combined, so with smart spending you can build well. Biggest example is the joke Chelsea are now, it's not just about burning cash.

 

[Nacka]

Napoli didn't need cash to burn to win this Scudetto and neither did Milan spend a lot to win in 21-22.

I think we will mainly need a Skriniar replacement, a Dumfries replacement, a Gagliardini cm backup replacement, a Gosens replacement if he is sold and a Correa replacement.

Guerrero or Bensabini for lwb (both free agents), recall Agoume or the Reggina dude Fabian as backup cm, Thuram (free agent), rwb with Dumfries sale money, so really just spend for a CB and Marotta may even find someone cheap or free. We don't need a 100mill mercato to improve this squad.

Just remember that a flop like Gabigol cost Inter more than JZ+Maicon+Cambiasso+Julio Cesar+Lucio combined, so with smart spending you can build well. Biggest example is the joke Chelsea are now, it's not just about burning cash.

Milan had a net spend of around 80-90 million according to transfermarkt.

Napoli was basically at break even with their transfers. That's with selling Koulibaly and Fabian Ruiz for a combined 60 million while buying Kim and Kvaradona for 30.

I doubt it's very simple to replicate Napoli's success in the transfer market. If it was everyone would do it. On top of that we reportedly have to profit 30 million in the transfer market and we have Skriniar leaving on a free transfer.

No one is claiming that it's impossible to improve the squad and have a successful season in 23/24. Miracles do happen. But it's delusional to deny that the odds are stacked against us with the current financial situation.

Going out there and bringing in the next "JZ+Maicon+Cambiasso+Julio Cesar+Lucio" for peanuts is easier said than done.

Edit: I also think that your estimates regarding transfers are a bit conservative.

De Vrij's contract is expiring I believe. So I assume that he's a goner unless he accepts a pay cut. And we're already short stacked in defense even with Skriniar and De Vrij in the squad.

Same with Dzeko, not sure if he's got another season at the highest level in him.

Lukaku is also not a certainty next season, if he doesn't vastly improve during the last few months of this season Inter shouldn't even pursue extending the loan IMHO.

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

I think Thuram-Lautaro as starters with Lukaku and Dzeko as backups would be quite decent for 23-24. Though it would be nice to have a creative forward a la Sanchez or Dybala...

Milan spent 80mill in the summer before the Scudetto season? That's pretty surprising and I have my doubts over it.

In any case it's not just a matter of spending, Milan spent a lot in 2017 and achiever nothing. The mercato when they bought everyone and their mothers.

De Vrij if he moves on would be replaced by a cheap or free player like Smalling/Ndicka

 

[Firdaus]

Napoli didn't need cash to burn to win this Scudetto and neither did Milan spend a lot to win in 21-22.

I think we will mainly need a Skriniar replacement, a Dumfries replacement, a Gagliardini cm backup replacement, a Gosens replacement if he is sold and a Correa replacement.

Guerrero or Bensabini for lwb (both free agents), recall Agoume or the Reggina dude Fabian as backup cm, Thuram (free agent), rwb with Dumfries sale money, so really just spend for a CB and Marotta may even find someone cheap or free. We don't need a 100mill mercato to improve this squad.

Just remember that a flop like Gabigol cost Inter more than JZ+Maicon+Cambiasso+Julio Cesar+Lucio combined, so with smart spending you can build well. Biggest example is the joke Chelsea are now, it's not just about burning cash.

Napoli also wasn't trying to sell its biggest players in consecutive years. It's of course true, like Nacks said, that Napoli's transfer success is pretty special aside from that. And like you said, it is possible to do well with smart spending. The problem with that is, for the players you mentioned, (1) we could still splash a fair amount if we needed to and didn't need to sell to avoid defaults; and (2) transfer fee is different from salary - we've been reportedly having issues meeting player demands...something that was unheard of in Moratti's era.

 

[red]

I think Thuram-Lautaro as starters with Lukaku and Dzeko as backups would be quite decent for 23-24. Though it would be nice to have a creative forward a la Sanchez or Dybala...

From what I have read, the whole of Europe is descending on Thuram's doorstep.

 

[Nacka]

I think Thuram-Lautaro as starters with Lukaku and Dzeko as backups would be quite decent for 23-24. Though it would be nice to have a creative forward a la Sanchez or Dybala...

Milan spent 80mill in the summer before the Scudetto season? That's pretty surprising and I have my doubts over it.

In any case it's not just a matter of spending, Milan spent a lot in 2017 and achiever nothing. The mercato when they bought everyone and their mothers.

De Vrij if he moves on would be replaced by a cheap or free player like Smalling/Ndicka

I'm just going by what transfermarkt is saying, maybe you have a better source.

93 million in purchases and basically nothing in sales (5m). That's a net spend of around 88 million according to my calculations.

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

12 players for 80/90 mill is not really big spending though. Inter paid most of that figure to buy Lukaku only in 2019. juve signed Higuain only for 96mill and Vlahovic for 70mill iirc.

Biggest Milan transfer in that list is 30mill then moderate figures like 15-14 mill and 5 players were on loan. And I believe they were signed in different windows too.

Compare that to their spending in summer 2017 window, this is nothing in comparison. I would hardly call the Milan team that won the Scudetto an expensive team.

 

[Nacka]

12 players for 80/90 mill is not really big spending though. Inter paid most of that figure to buy Lukaku only in 2019. juve signed Higuain only for 96mill and Vlahovic for 70mill iirc.

Biggest Milan transfer in that list is 30mill then moderate figures like 15-14 mill and 5 players were on loan. And I believe they were signed in different windows too.

Compare that to their spending in summer 2017 window, this is nothing in comparison. I would hardly call the Milan team that won the Scudetto an expensive team.

Ok, but I'm not sure how any of that makes Inter's upcoming mercato any easier.

Logically speaking if the club is forced to make a profit of 30m in the transfer market chances are not very high that the club will manage to improve the squad.

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

Let's wait regarding the financial situation because apparently new sponsors like Turkish Airlines and possibly new US investors will join, and hopefully we get past Porto to get 20mill extra.

 

[stefan9]

Let's wait regarding the financial situation because apparently new sponsors like Turkish Airlines and possibly new US investors will join, and hopefully we get past Porto to get 20mill extra.

A new sponsor would only replace the money we have lost with digital bits, it won't give us extra transfer funds.
A new investor/owner is highly unlikely to be in place for the mercato. These take lots of time.

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

So the Digitalbutts money is a lost cause? Why are we still wearing them as sponsors? I guess the plan for Inter is to stick to our part in the contract so we can sue afterwards? As for new investor taking time, Suning bought the club in summer (iirc) 2016 and went on to spend a lot in summer 2016 buying Candreva, Gabi1gol, Joao Mario... Let's see how it goes but Marotta can get 2 or 3 players for nothing, hopefully we have agreements in place.

 

[stefan9]

Legal reasons. If we remove the logo they can claim we also reneged on the agreement.

 

[Firdaus]

If we take them off the shirt, then theoretically, we can only get what they would owe up to that point. Since we have nothing else, then it makes sense to keep them on where there is a theoretical claim rather than a guarantee of nothing.

I keep saying "theoretically", not just because I'm trying to impress @red with words with more than 3 syllables but because this looks like one of those dime a dozen crypto "rug pulls" where the company is effectively dead and broke after the fraud.

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

Still no Lecce thread, lazy @red

 

[Nerazzurri4life]

I am disappointed no one gave me a kudos for my Digitalbutts put down

 

[red]

I keep saying "theoretically", not just because I'm trying to impress @red with words with more than 3 syllables

This really worked on me Fird-Burglar

Though it would have been more impressive in German ("theoretisch")