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Taggart is deluded......

Excellent article you may be interested in: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport/hi/english/football/champions_league/newsid_1961000/1961503.stm

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" Sir Alex Ferguson has pulled the full range of brave faces after Manchester United's Champions League disappointments - but he wore the full mask of self-delusion in Leverkusen.

Ferguson reacted to the deserved loss against Bayer Leverkusen by clutching desperately at straws and failing to grasp reality.

Manchester United, he claimed, were still as good as any of the European elite.

Nonsense.

Manchester United, he claimed, had been the best team in the Premiership since Christmas.

Nonsense - unless we have all been very much mistaken and it has been a team other than Arsenal who have put together a stunning sequence of form to stand on the brink of a league and cup double.

And, it has to be said, the biggest nonsense of all was Ferguson's tactical masterplan in Leverkusen.

Ferguson has presided over magnificent success and leads a group of players that can stand comparison with many of the European elite, but they were a mess in their ill-fated Champions League defeat in Germany.

Fortune favours the brave - but it can also desert the foolhardy and Ferguson got his game plan horribly wrong.

The gods can only smile on Ferguson for so long. Remember how he got away with puzzlingly playing Jesper Blomqvist in the 1999 Champions League win against Bayern Munich?

Ferguson, on a night when he needed goals, detailed a natural midfield marksman in Paul Scholes to tramp uneffectively down the right side of midfield.

He isolated Ruud van Nistelrooy and left Ole Gunnar Solskjaer on the bench, only introducing the Norwegian talisman when it was too late for him to produce another miracle.


Scholes and Blanc fail to hide their disappointment

And, once again, Ferguson's whole set-up appeared tailored to allow Juan Sebastian Veron to fill a mystifying role behind Van Nistelrooy.

The consequence was that Van Nistelrooy was barely given a pass worthy of the name and Scholes saw his effectiveness reduced to almost nil.

Manchester United's best set-up is a pure and simple 4-4-2 - and the brilliant Scholes was reduced to a figure of burning frustration on the periphery of the action.

They ended the game in a desperate shambles, with Veron almost filling in as an auxiliary central defender.

Veron has been the dilemma at the centre of United's season, and Ferguson has spent so much time putting his most expensive item at the front of the display that he has forgotten things were falling apart at the back of the showcase.

Laurent Blanc was careless and fortunate to get away with a series of sloppy errors, while Wes Brown's distribution was abysmal.

If there is a man waiting to replace Gary Neville in England's right back slot, it is certainly not Wes Brown.


Veron has been a United misfit

United's defence is one of their weaknesses, as proved by the fact that they led three times against Bayer in two legs and never retained it.

And their problems were made even worse with the manager's unnecessary tinkering with midfield and attack.

Sir Alex Ferguson has rightly claimed glorious credit for Manchester United's successes - he must now take a share of the blame for another disappointing fall near the Champions League finishing tape. "


I believe that we can all say " AMEN" to that can't we ? :D:D
 

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You girls a bit touchy aren' t you ?

Merge to your heart's content Mr 'Big Man of Xtratime'.......wow! I AM impressed .... :eekani:

Trouble with you Mancs on here is that you can't accept a rival fan giving yous a bit of stick. Anything remotely anti-Manure and the shutters go up to protect your cosy little incestuous existence on here.

Don't tell me - you're gonna threaten to ban me again now eh ? *quivering in my boots>*

Ever heard of the concept of freedom of speech in your blinkered little world of Ryan Giggs' duvet covers and post-1990 soccer knowledge ? No, didn't think so.... :rolleyes:

Fred Elliot: ManUtd fan in New Zealand :D:D It all fits so nicely..... :D Baaaaaa .
 

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Flippin' hell Fred!! GOOD REPLY!!!! :rolleyes:

Well, you've got me now haven't you ? :eek: I just can't compete with your superior intellect, backed up by your 'little-big-man' cheerleader (K2) in the background....does he always hold your coat, or does he ever get his hands dirty himself ? :D

For your information, I never go into hiding. Fact of the matter is, I go on at least two other footie sites, (none of which have such uptight and menstrual Mancs as on here), and so I spend my time wherever I feel like being.

I can take taunts that Liverpool are, "boring", "trophyless" or whatever you like to throw at us. I acknowledge that we got what we deserved at Spurs, i.e. nothing. See, unlike you lot I can accept criticism. I can deal with it without resorting to personal insults. I don't need to remove my thread title to 'hide' it in another one to spare and minimise embarrassment and ridicule from those nasty ManU haters....... ah diddums.

Thing is, we're improving in the league (more points already than last season), it was our first outing in the CL, and we did much better than Arsenal or ManUre did in their first seasons, qualifying from a difficult group ( unlike ManUre).

Secondly, we didn't waste £28m on a waste of skin Ali G lookalike , who after one season wants out of the ManUre slumhole....

We had our manager absent for nearly 6 months of the season and still competed......

We actually HAVE a defence worthy of the name, unlike Le Slug, Fabulous Blunders, Wes 'OG' Brown, & the Chuckle Brothers.

Your boys were firmly kept in our top pockets after our 5th (FIFTH) straight win over your sorry lot.

P.S. Fred & sidekick: How many times have you 'REAL GENUINE' (yeah right!!) ManU fans ever been to the Theatre of Wet Dreams ?

Fred: Why don't you just stick to your national pastime of sheep shagging ? :D :ass:
 

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"ManUre in Inter-toto Cup"
"Taggart is deluded"
"Are you watching Merseysiders"

You call this criticism???This just a pathetic attempt to provoke United fans and nothing more.Objective criticisms are always welcome here but when someone opens three or four threads just to have a go at a team,I will not accept it.Its not as if I have closed the threads(which I easily could have done)but rather merged them all together into one.


I take credit for the "Taggart is deluded" comment, but if you check carefully, I think you'll find that someone else made those comments....... don't recall saying any of that......???
And it's not like I started 4 threads within hours of each other on the same subject is it ? I've probably started a TOTAL of 4 threads since Jan when I joined up here, 5 (FIVE) MONTHS AGO !!!

Lighten up mate. Have you never heard of the term ' banter' ? :rolleyes:



Yes you might be improving but still trail us by a couple of points.Just shows how much work there still is to be done.As for CL,Liverpool scored the lowest number of goals in the competition,won the least number of games and their travel to the quarter-final was lucky to say the least.So dont start shooting your mouth off just because you somehow managed to get to the quarters.


We also only lost ONCE to a good Barcelona team unlike you (Depo x2 anyone ???)



With players like Smicer,Murphy and Berger,you could have done with an Ali G lookalike.

For £28m you could've bought a new defence. These three players cost a fraction of that and the Czechs are squad players at best and will probably leave next season anyway. £28m, British record !!! :eek: And for what ?????? Just to sell him cut price back to where he came from.....:D

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Yeah!!and during those 6 months Pool actually did win games while the moment GH arrived your title challenge went down the drains not to mention your CL ambitions.


Just shows the spirit and desire of the team in his absence. Are you saying that a team functions better WITHOUT it's manager ? :rolleyes: GET REAL!!!


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We actually HAVE a defence worthy of the name, unlike Le Slug, Fabulous Blunders, Wes 'OG' Brown, & the Chuckle Brothers.
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True your defence is very well organized and much better than ours.But at the end of the day even with those "clowns" that you mentioned,we won more games than Pool.

Also LOST more games as well.......


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Your boys were firmly kept in our top pockets after our 5th (FIFTH) straight win over your sorry lot.
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5th straight win and despite those FIVE consecutive victories,we still won the league while Liverpool were left clutching straws.

Er, NO!!! We beat you 3 times this year (inc Charity Shield) and unless Arsenal backfire big time, you aint gonna win diddly squat, and here's hoping they pummel you like most other top teams have done this year.


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How many times have you 'REAL GENUINE' (yeah right!!) ManU fans ever been to the Theatre of Wet Dreams ?
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True...I have never had the oppurtunity to visit Old Trafford but if thats how you judge a fan,then 90% of fans all over XT cannot be called "GENUINE" fans of their respective clubs(not to mention the countless number of Pool supporters who have never been to Anfield).Its about how much you love the club and your passion for it.Dont think anybody in XT loves United more than me and I bet this is the feeling of each and every individual fan.

* COUGH* * Glory hunter* Funny how you didn't support Coventry or Southampton eh ? :rolleyes:
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You say that you can deal with criticisms without resorting to personal insults.yet at the same time you are calling me a sidekick.Sounds like a bloody hypocrite to me.

Apologies for that wounding insult. I bet that must have really stung huh ? :crybaby: :crybaby:


Serious question: Am I the only bloke on here that likes a bit of banter or are you all so up each other, you only say nice things to each other's teams ? If I'd realised it was a mutual appreciation society I'd have never bothered....... maybe ITV wasn't so bad after all.......
 

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Hiffster: I'm always on the LFC site. Have been for over a year, in fact since it started. Try me on the MB under "Totty Alert" thread........ you can't miss me, my name's FINALWORD.

What are you registered as ?

P.S. Please don't tell anyone you know me, it'll blow my street cred right out of the window... ;)
 

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Russell: True to form you ManU fans can't reason like adults so have to let off a string of obscenities (that's swear words to you).

You refer to my quote but answered a different point..... DER!!

Why did he not support Coventry or Southampton or Ipswich I wonder ? Is it because he latched onto the <currently> most successful team ? Coincidence ? I think not. This in my book constitutes a glory hunter.

Now, try and answer without the personal insults. I don't imagine it'll be possible will it ...... ? :rolleyes:
 

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Fred: Don't flatter yourself mate. I consider you to be like an irritating fly to be swatted away from time to time. Of no serious consequence but irritating nonetheless.

I didn't answer because I was replying to someone else.

One dimensional are we ? So how come Taggart STILL hasn't worked out how to beat us ? If as you say, we're so predictable then even a Sunday league manager should be able to latch on surely ? The tactical genius of Fabio Capello (courted by ManUre but rejected by him), couldn't work out how to beat us "one-tactic" wonders not to mention many other top European & domestic coaches.

Won't win anything of consequence with Murphy or Heskey ? Both England internationals. Murphy having scored the winning goal TWICE against your lot. (Is that maybe why you dislike him so much ? ) Fact (spelt F-A-C-T as I'm sure it's a new concept for you post 1990 fans) is that they in fact won a cup treble last season, playing the most games as was possible in going to each Cup final and winning. How many cup trebles have ManUre won ? (cue Mickey mouse comments etc etc - bet you didn't say that though when you won the CWC vs Barca ?)

We also did something which you lot can't seem to manage and that is to beat GERMAN sides, Bayern, Dortmund, Leverkusen etc.

We were 6 minutes from being in the CL final, when a lack of experience showed us up.

When you lose to Arsenal, you may just find that we're there to move into 2nd spot, so I wouldn't get too cocky about being above us yet.......

Is that right you wear drawstring trousers now as the zip noise used to frighten off the sheep and kangaroos ? Baaaaaaaah :ass:
 

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K2: What I actually said was " string of obscenities." I don't consider I made any personal insults to anyone anyway, and if I did it was in response to some directed at me. So there. I may have called you a glory hunter, but that's different to calling me a stupid twat.

Anyway, my Dad's bigger than your Dad.... :stuckup: :stuckup: :tongue:


Cokane: Glad to be keeping you amused.... ;)
 
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