[nasty nick]

you once asked for the best brazilian player in lazio,but any one of them is that good,so i think it would be better to ask for the best brazilian player in italy ever.
this is my top 3 list:
1 falcao
2 zico
3 aldair
what do you think?

 

[Alexx]

socrates

 

[nasty nick]

socrates was a brilliant player but he never played in italy for a long time,if he had,he would made it to my top 3.

 

[AMOROSO!]

Carioca?

Seriusly:

1) Ze Maria (he played for Parma and was ok)
2) Taffarel (he played for Parma and was bad)
3) amaral (he played for Parma and was awful)

These are the top 3 brazilians in Italy EVER!

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Parma will fight back...FORZA PARMA!

 

[Alexx]

Well, in my book he played long enough to count. Plus he had the best saying:

'ONLY FIORENTINA allow sex in the three days before the game,' he said, explaining his reasons for choosing the club over R*** and Juventus.

 

[Ze da Fiel]

Alexx, that is a typical Socrates phrase Who did he play for in Brazil? What team does the doctor support? you guys have the answers

I would pick:

1) Falcao (sorry for the R*** link)
2) Careca
3) Toninho Cerezo (sorry for th R*** link)
4) Altafani/Mazzola
5) Junior
6) Alemao
7) Aldair (sorry for the R*** link)
8) The great one....ZICO!
9) Walter Casagrande
10) Socrates

The last 2 played for Corinthians

When Casagrande came back to Brazil in 93, he came to play in Flamengo. In spetember that year he played Corinthians in Pacamebu (Sao Paulo), and he said in the paper he was ready to cry in the pitch because the Corinthians supporters would mis treat him.
What happenend was totallly different....GAvioes da Fiel and all the Fiel started shouting

"VOlta Casao, teu lugar e no timao"
"Doutor, eu nao me engano o Casagrande e Corinthiano".

Translation:
"Come back CASAO, you place is in Corinthians"
"Doctor, I do not confuse myslef, Casagrande is a Corinthiano" (this is a tradional song by the way)
casagrande scored an own goal, and started crying during the game



A story on Socrates.
Once he played a friendly with Corinthians back in 82...in the "Corinthians Democracy" years, and the Corinthians players were not running about, and we were drawing the game 0x0.
So Socrates in the secnd half decided taht to spark up the game he would only kicj the ball with his back heel....thew crowd went mad in delight! That's true brazilian football by the way

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GAVIOES DA FIEL
Pelo Corinthians, com muito amor ate o fim.
A Corrente Jamais Sera Quebrada!
THE WORLD IS OURS


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[Ze da Fiel]

Also, nasty, Alexx and aquila,
Who has been the biggest brazilian flop?

Muller, Renato Gaucho, ?

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GAVIOES DA FIEL
Pelo Corinthians, com muito amor ate o fim.
A Corrente Jamais Sera Quebrada!
THE WORLD IS OURS

 

[falcao]

the best brazilian in italy ever? we all know the answer: THE KING OF ROMA, FALCAO!!!!!

the one and only FALCAO!!! there is no question about this. FALCAO is the answer.

 

[nasty nick]

falcao what a strange choise i thought you would vote for aldair or cafu....
worst player must be:
1 gilberto
2 renato
3 cate
what do you think?

 

[nasty nick]

this was posted 2 times delete one!!

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[AMOROSO!]

Amaral was awful for Parma.

He deserves a mention at the "worst" category

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Parma will fight back...FORZA PARMA!

 

[nasty nick]

you forgot that adailton was a parma player,he was also bad but he didn't play alot,now he's very good for verona..

 

[Ze da Fiel]

Adailton played with Alex in the U-21 in 1997. I think he is better than Alex, but Alex managed to get into the Palmeiras team, Adailton did not! Then he went to Italy.


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GAVIOES DA FIEL
Pelo Corinthians, com muito amor ate o fim.
A Corrente Jamais Sera Quebrada!
THE WORLD IS OURS

 

[AMOROSO!]

Adailton still belongs to Parma.He was playing on loan at Verona.In fact,right now he is at a tour at China with Parma .

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[aquila]

As for the worst Brazilian player in Serie A, Renato Gaùcho is well placed. Also R*** fans still remember a certain Andrade. He came to be the new Falcão, but he was kicked out of the team after few months. It seems that he was slower than a lame turtle.

SESF

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[nasty nick]

i saw the u-21 tournament and adailton dominated it,he became the topscorer and brazil won the championship.
he was very good,and i hope he'll play great with parma too.

 

[Ze da Fiel]

Nasty,
unfortunately we did not win...Argentina won it.
We were beating everyone 10-0, 9-0 playing the best football in the world and then we played argentina, and tehy beat us in the last minute with a counter attack

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GAVIOES DA FIEL
Pelo Corinthians, com muito amor ate o fim.
A Corrente Jamais Sera Quebrada!
THE WORLD IS OURS

 

[nasty nick]

oh i didn't remember that,i though brazil won cause they beat up every singel team with 8-0 and scores like that.
what of these players are now famous.
adailton,alex i remember sydney what happened to him?

 

[Ze da Fiel]

Aquila,
yes I know Andrade, he was a brilliant player in Flamengo in the golden years of the early 80's. BUt i don't think his style suits Italy a lot.
I'm still amazed of how Renato Gaucho did not do well in Italy. I thought he would have everything to do well overtheir.
The guy is probably the biggest playboy of brazilian football
Every time I go to Rio, I always see him on the beach playing foot-volley.
In 95 he helped Fluminense beat Flamengo 3x2, in the Rio final....it was Flamengo's centenary year, and he scored with 3 minutes to go with his belly. By the way he is a Flamengo fan!!

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GAVIOES DA FIEL
Pelo Corinthians, com muito amor ate o fim.
A Corrente Jamais Sera Quebrada!
THE WORLD IS OURS

 

[Ze da Fiel]

I think Fabio Bilica played,
I don't know about Felipe. I din't see taht tournament all that well

In 95 the guys taht beacem famous were: Caio ( a big flop in italy) but playing well in Santos, Ze Elias , Luizao , Claudinho (ponte preta), and their is this guy called Elder who used to go out with a girlfriend of mine..he played for Santos , but don't know were he is now. I think he did not make it!

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GAVIOES DA FIEL
Pelo Corinthians, com muito amor ate o fim.
A Corrente Jamais Sera Quebrada!
THE WORLD IS OURS