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First Luce made a stupid statement by saying that the game between Fener and Rize should be cancelled. I wasnt surprised because we are used to comments like this from Luce.
Whenever he feels he is threatened he attacks other teams. He did the same when coaching GS.

Now Besiktas boardmembers follows his approach and they are saying they will do whatever they can to cancel the game between Fener and Rize.

Just pathetic Besiktas......you cant really be this afraid!

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And they didn't speak up about this right after the match because....?

It's too late for anything like that to be done... And since the whole issue was resolved a month ago, their only making enemies if they try something like that..
 

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And they didn't speak up about this right after the match because....?
That's the thing. It was announced 10 days before the game that new transfers could be used in this game.

Fener used one new transfer (Nobre) and Rize used 3 new transfers (Nene, Cem Baki and Duro).

So if everyone knew 10 days before that these players were going to play why did Besiktas wait until after the game?

And why is it that it's only Besiktas complaining trying to urge other teams to follow their steps?

Could it be that Fener is their biggest title threat?

Would Besiktas still have complained if Fener had lost the game? :D
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And according to the article Hüsnü Güreli is backing his statements by referring to paragraph 27/I:

HÜKMEN YENÝK SAYILMALAR :

MADDE 27 :

Hükmen yenik sayýlmayý gerektiren durumlar aþaðýda belirtilmiþtir:

a) Müsabakanýn ilan edildiði sahaya, belirlenen saatte 9 (dokuz) kiþiden az bir kadro ile çýkmak veya müsabaka baþlamadan önce sahayý terk etmek, ya da müsabaka esnasýnda herhangi bir sebeple kadronun 6 (altý) kiþiye inmesi, (bu durumda müsabakaya devam edilmez.)

b) Kulübe tescilli olmayan veya o sezon için lisans vizesi yapýlmamýþ futbolcu oynatýlmasý,

c) Futbolcularýn lisanslarýnýn veya Federasyonun onaylý isim çizelgelerinin hakeme ibraz edilmemesi neticesinde maçýn yapýlmamýþ olmasý,

d) Lisans kontrolünden sonra hakemin futbolcularý tanýmamasýndan yararlanarak deðiþtirmek,

e) Takýmýn cezalý bulunmasý,

f) Takýmda sözleþmeli futbolcularla, yabancý uyruklu futbolcularýn belirlenmiþ sayýdan fazla olmasý,

g) Profesyonel lig ve kupa müsabakalarýnda amatör futbolcu oynatýlmasý,

h) Futbolcunun cezalý veya tedbirli bulunmasý,

ý) Ayný sezonda, ayný kategorideki (Profesyonel Futbol Ligi ile Türkiye Kupasý ayrý kategoridir) müsabakalarda üst üste veya aralýklý dahi olsa ihraca dönüþmeyen ihtarlýk hareketleri nedeniyle toplam 4 sarý kart gören futbolcularýn ayný kategorideki ilk resmi müsabakada oynatýlmasý, (Amatör Liglerde sarý kart uygulamasý yapýlmaz.)

j) Futbolcunun kendisine ait olmayan lisansý kullanmasý, sahte lisans kullanýlmasý ve/veya lisans üzerinde tahrifat yapýlmýþ olmasý,

k) Federasyonun, müsabakalar için çýkardýðý statü ve genelgelerdeki hükümleri, o sonuca etki edecek þekilde ihlal etmek,

l) Ertelenen müsabakalarda oynama hakký bulunmayan futbolcunun oynatýlmasý

m) Silah altýnda bulunan futbolcu oynatmak, (Profesyonel futbolcular ile askeri güçlerde yer alan asker futbolcular, bu hükmün dýþýndadýr.)

Yukarýda belirtilen hallerde hükmen maðlubiyet kararý verilmekle beraber, (b, d, e, f, g, h, ý, j, k, l, m) bentlerindeki sebeplerden dolayý ilgililer hakkýnda Futbol Disiplin Talimatý hükümleri uygulanmak üzere iþlem yapýlýr.

But this game was never treated as a postponed game....TFF declared it as "never played"......meaning that paragrapgh 27/I is not valid in this case!:D ;)

Besiktas lawyers should go back to uni imo....
 

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Had we have lost, the situation would have been different ;) They always knew the match was going to be replayed - why wait until after the result to raise issues? They're obviously running scared.... What for, I do not know...

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Lucescu deðil kader utansýn!


Ligin 12. haftasý; Lider Beþiktaþ Ankara’da, Gençlerbirliði karþýsýnda... O haftanýn FANATÝK’teki panorama sayfasýnda Hakan Can’ýn da belirttiði gibi, karþýlaþmanýn en kritik aný 14. dakika...
Sakatlýk geçiren Ümit Bozkurt kaptanlýk pazubandýný eline almýþ, sahayý terketmek için kalecisi Damir’in topu taca göndermesini bekliyor. Damir, numaralý tribün tarafýndan topu taca göndermek için geliþi güzel bir vuruþ yapýyor. Ne var ki, bu geliþi güzel topun taca çýkmasýna, Beþiktaþlý Okan “Geliþine kurban olayým” deyip engel oluyor. Biraz sürdükten sonra, rakip savunmanýn oyunu býrakmasýndan da faydalanarak bomboþ durumdaki Ýlhan Mansýz’a aktarýyor.. Ve Ýlhan belki de hayatýnýn en kolay gollerinden birini Gençlerbirliði aðlarýna gönderiyor...
Daha sonra El Saka kendi kalesine, Youla rakip filelere yolluyor topu ve karþýlaþma Gençlerbirliði’inin hakimiyeti altýnda geçmesine raðmen, Beþiktaþ’ýn 2-1’lik galibiyetiyle sonuçlanýyor...
Maç sonrasýnda Ersun Yanal 14. dakikada yaþanan olaya atýfta bulunarak “Biz deðil, Fair Play kaybetti” yorumunu getiriyor. Emreli, Zagolu, Tayfurlu, Giuntili Kartal’ýn patronu Lucescu ise, týpký bir sezon öncesinde olduðu gibi, sadece ve sadece Gençlerbirliði’nin sert oyunundan ve faullerinin fazlalýðýndan þikayet ediyor...
Hani þu, Fenerbahçe’nin tekrarlanan Rizespor karþýlaþmasýndan sonra Daum için “Ben olsam bu maçý oynamaya utanýrdým. Meslekdaþlarýmýn yüzüne bakamazdým” diyen Lucescu, 14. dakikaya hiç deðinmiyor. Fair Play ruhuna aykýrý bir golle kazandýklarý üç puandan hiç utanmýyor. Meslekdaþýnýn elini sýkarken yüzüne bakabiliyor...
Aslýnda yazýlacak çok þey var ancak, yukarýdaki açýk çeliþkiden sonra “Fazla söze gerek yok” deyiþine sýðýnýp lafý uzatmamak en iyisi. Üç gün önce söyledikleri ile Ankara’da yaþadýðý kaderin Lucescu’ya bir cilvesi sanki. Kaderde de suç vardýr elbet ancak, utanmasý gereken sizce hangisi!..

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They are so demented.

Besiktasli's what do you expect?:rolleyes: :D :tongue:
 

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Who cares about Lucescu and his views on Fener...? He can do a running jump for all I care.. There is so much media hype around this dude that he feels he can say whatever he wants and people won't question him. Sure, his work for his club(s) is good and deserves to be commended but he should also learn to stick his nose out of others' business. He is trying to cause uproar by pulling in other clubs - even our bitterest rivals have maintained their impartiality but this geezer and the IRS hero Husnu think they rule things.... Luce and Husnu, let me enlighten you once more - Fener is out of YOUR league, you couldn't possibly cope!! Stick to what you do best speak about Ilhan Mansiz and his exceptional skill (!?) and pay your Taxes respectively...

Yeter be....!
 

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Who cares about Lucescu and his views on Fener...? He can do a running jump for all I care.. There is so much media hype around this dude that he feels he can say whatever he wants and people won't question him. Sure, his work for his club(s) is good and deserves to be commended but he should also learn to stick his nose out of others' business. He is trying to cause uproar by pulling in other clubs - even our bitterest rivals have maintained their impartiality but this geezer and the IRS hero Husnu think the rule things.... Luce and Husnu, let me enlighten you once more - Fener is out of YOUR league, you couldn't possibly cope!! Stick to what you do best speak about Ilhan Mansiz and his exceptional skill (!?) and pay your Taxes respectively...

Yeter be....!
Ohhh beee....benim de icim rahatladi simdi...:tongue:


But i agree....Luce talks about fair play and shit but somehow he seems to have forgotten their 2-1 win over Gencler...which was pretty pathetic imo.

Luce is a big mouther when he feels threatened....we all remember his statements under the GS logo...and he is continuing this with Beiktas.

Im just worried that he is gonna appear on Oprah show together with Dr Phil...:D
 

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I think the Oprah show will be a double bill bro....

Show 1:

"They tell us that we'll never be great but we pay our taxes, and still no one appreciates us for it. So now I want to go to court and am looking for any reason valid or not......"

Show 2:

"I can speak six languages, but despite being in Turkiye for 3.5 years - I still can't say hello... What's more, being in Turkiye is giving me a Fener complex"
 

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:howler: :howler: :howler:

Bro, i have to see those shows....:D
 

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It's on Turkish TV every day ;) :howler: :D
Batstard Türksat...cant get the signal because of a lousy building in front of us...:mad: :rolleyes:
 

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Then knock the building down bro.. Problem solved :D
Well of course bro....but now it seems like my folks have friends in that building! :D
 

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With friends like that, who needs enemies :howler: :D :D
Bro, i was just saying the same to my folks the other day....that it was time to get some new friends...:D
 

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Besiktas are running scared! How else can we describe their actions in the Samsun game? Their players, their fans and the technical staff should all hang their heads in shame. This is not the way the current champions and league leaders should conduct themselves. It is not a good advert for Turkish football and the news is being broadcast everywhere. Even here in England who couldn't care less about Turkiye and the Superlig....

If my namesake Cem Papila gets blamed for anything to do with this game, then rest assured that this is ample evidence that the league is as corrupted as can be. For once, a ref comes to an Istanbul ground and is very brave and impartial in his decisions - Big up Cem Papila!!

Every single one of the red cards is justified! However, what Pancu and that wierdo Mansiz did was criminal. They delibrately did everything possible to get sent off. Once they got their way, they waved to the crowd like they achieved something. When it comes to negotiating multi-million dollar deals, these players claim professionalism. However, what they did yesterday was even below the standards of an ameteur!! Guinti was also running around like a headless chicken in search of his second yellow, but the aforementioned two beat him to it.

Zago on the other hand should receive a serious ban, he could have ended Celil's career. One trick pony Ibrahim, should consider boxing instead of football, and everyone's reject Ahmet should think about playing rugby as a kicker... Lucescu on the other is showing his true colours by the day!?

I haven't even commented on the treatment Daum received.. Besiktas lost more than 3 points yesterday. They lost respect!!
 

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Cem, leave it bro ;)

They tried to take advantage of the Rize replay, and told us we should be ashamed, and then tried to get the result reversed..

Now they ****ed up, made fools of themselves from players to officials to the fans in the stadium, and I bet Aziz Yildirim or anyone else won't even speak about it unless their asked ;)
 

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8 or so days ago we were 11 points behind of them.... Now it's 5, could that be the reason behind all this anger? Are they running scared? Or could it be the Bilgili had to eat humble pie after PROMISING the voters that BJK will win the league undefeated? Maybe it was Lucescu being sidetracked by Daum ungraceful (!?) win over Rize? Whatever the reason, it doesn't change my views bro.... ;)
 
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