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Without Beckham and Keane, Man U can be had.

Here are my formations:

Defensive 4-5-1:

..............Nowotny...............Lucio
Sebescen.....................................Placente

Schneider...........Ramelow........Ze Roberto
..................Ballack...........Basturk

............................Brdaric

Offensive 4-4-2

..............Nowotny................Lucio
Schneider......................................Placente

.............................Ramelow
Basturk..................Ballack..............Ze Roberto

....................Neuville.....Berbatov

vs

.............Van Nistelrooy.......Solskjaer

Giggs...........Veron.............Butt...........Scholes

Silvestre.............................................G Neville
..............Blanc............................Brown

Clearly, Man U are a different team without Beckham and Scholes.

I like it when Leverkusen are underestimated. It gives us an advantage. My pick is Leverkusen on to the Finals in Glasgow.
 

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ya ..without keane and beckham...bayer have a good chance..
but dont forget...manu have only the CL trophy to look forward too...and wahtever team they put out ,at old traford it's always difficult for the away team...
 
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MAN UTD 3-1 BAYER
BAYER 2-2 MAN UTD

they both have crap defences, but Lucio is a joke.

so I go with united.
 

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If Lucio is a joke,what are you? a comic book?:D
 
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If Lucio is a joke,what are you? a comic book?:D
Lucio is supposed to be a Centre Back, yet he looks great charging forward with the ball, take it away from him and hes chuffin useless, OWEN left him for a 200 year old oak tree many times in the game.

His defensive positioning is crap, but he can head the ball well.

overall he should be a sub who is brought on in the last 10 mins when you need someone to get on the end of a cross or help overrun a defence.

But that boy aint no defender
 

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u think he should be a substitute while all big teams in europe are after his signature.....i wonder who's right here ,you or the big teams coaches?:D
 
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Marvin4 said:
u think he should be a substitute while all big teams in europe are after his signature.....i wonder who's right here ,you or the big teams coaches?:D
they want him but not for defending, they will put a real centre half next to him.

They want him for his charging forwards he does.
 

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yeah ,they will pay 30 million dollars for letting him warm the bench and play 10 mins a game for the charging runs he make.....impressive:tongue:
 
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yeah ,they will pay 30 million dollars for letting him warm the bench and play 10 mins a game for the charging runs he make.....impressive:tongue:
If that lanky samba is worth 30 million dollars (20 million pounds)
Hyypia is worth 50 million dollars.

no way will lucio go for 20 million dollars

maybe 10-14 if that
 

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Hyppia is one of my favorite defenders buddy as well;) ....anyway Lucio is rated like this weather u like it or not,so accept it weather its samba or romba or tango.:D
 

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Marvin4 said:
yeah ,they will pay 30 million dollars for letting him warm the bench and play 10 mins a game for the charging runs he make.....impressive:tongue:
Lucio is one of the most sought after players in the world. Yes, a solid centreback needs to play in tandem with him. But the boy is only 23 years old. He is probably already one of the 5 best attacking defenders in the world. All he needs is a bit more time to develop his defensive side. I think the boy is going to be a superstar in the mould of fellow Brazilian Roberto Carlos, who also has similiar shortcomings. But he is a superstar nonetheless.:)
 

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nice explanation jazzman ,but this LFCOWNUALL guy sticks to his weird thoughts.........anyway,we know how good is Lucio and how imressive will he be after gaining some experience.......he will sure be a future SUPERSTAR.
 
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