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Totti feels it is he felt he should of won in 2000 any of you guys agree with him.I add names like Raul and Henry who should of won it as well.Shame Totti did not add Henry as well.

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Not more than Cannavaro winning in 2006 ?
C'mom, Raul disapeared when Figo, Zidane and Ronaldo arrived. That is how golden he is.
 

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Not more than Cannavaro winning in 2006 ?
C'mom, Raul disapeared when Figo, Zidane and Ronaldo arrived. That is how golden he is.
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Not more than Cannavaro winning in 2006 ?
C'mom, Raul disapeared when Figo, Zidane and Ronaldo arrived. That is how golden he is.
That doesn't really wipe out his achievements in the previous years, though. Nor his unbelievable legacy at Real Madrid.

And yes, Cannavaro was pretty ridiculous.
 

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All I know is, except Ronaldo winning for a month of football when he was out for the whole year, the biggiest joke of a winner has allways been Owen winning then. It was utterly bizzare.
 

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but those achivements made him superior to Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Zidane who are those who won ahead of him ? Not a chance. Ballon d'or is fixed, eurocentric (as obvious) and biased and as like any voting, falacious and without importance. As much is Totti claiming someone should have won anything.
 

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but those achivements made him superior to Rivaldo, Ronaldo, Zidane who are those who won ahead of him ? Not a chance. Ballon d'or is fixed, eurocentric (as obvious) and biased and as like any voting, falacious and without importance. As much is Totti claiming someone should have won anything.
We're still talking about 2001 here. Obviously once Raul stopped playing at that level there is no argument anymore. But here's the top3:

1. Owen
2. Raul
3. Kahn

So the list you just made doesn't even come into it.
 

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damn europe must had a shit year in 2001 for those 3 to be the best :D
 

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We're still talking about 2001 here. Obviously once Raul stopped playing at that level there is no argument anymore. But here's the top3:

1. Owen
2. Raul
3. Kahn

So the list you just made doesn't even come into it.
Its funny Europes number 1 that season scored like 5 goals past Europe's 3rd best player that season :D
 

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We're still talking about 2001 here. Obviously once Raul stopped playing at that level there is no argument anymore. But here's the top3:

1. Owen
2. Raul
3. Kahn

So the list you just made doesn't even come into it.
You are talking about 2001, Totti about 2000, you even talked about 2002. The big point is : Raul is just not good enough to won it for sure as Totti seems to think, as Zidane, Rivaldo and Ronaldo were. Totti and Henry also were not good enough and the same argument made for Raul could be used for all those not good enough, not bad enough players.
 

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Not more than Cannavaro winning in 2006 ?
Cannavaro had a great season with Juve and won the WC with Italy when he was great in tournament.

Also Del Piero deserved it in 1998 after his great seasons since 95. :stuckup:
 

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You are talking about 2001, Totti about 2000, you even talked about 2002. The big point is : Raul is just not good enough to won it for sure as Totti seems to think, as Zidane, Rivaldo and Ronaldo were. Totti and Henry also were not good enough and the same argument made for Raul could be used for all those not good enough, not bad enough players.
Well you seem to approach this question from a whole different angle. This is an annual award so whatever happens (worldwide football strike), they have to give it to someone, whether or not there is anyone really worthy of it. It's plain as day that Zidane and Ronaldo are a cut above say Raul, Totti, Henry etc, because they are just indisputable winners at one point or another in their careers. But in the years when these guys weren't at the top, others inevitably conquered the mountain, and the question still remains who is most deserving. And you seem to be saying that if it's between Raul and Owen it doesn't even matter. Well in that case they should just not give out the award at all, but that's just not how this works. So your argument misses the point imo.
 

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They should not give awards or people should not just give that importance, just like Totti crying bitter tears. The point is that a "Mistake" is something like Crouch Winning it or Zinho instead of Romario,etc. Guys like Totti, Owen, Batistuta, Henry, Beckham, Giggs, Gerrard, Nedved, Schev, Seedorf, Redondo (funny, a player who is indeed above all of those wasn't even a bronze winner, right?) , Buffon, Del Piero (just to make Amr less bitch but haha), Eto'o, Deco can replace each other and we can never say "it is a mistake"... They can give as they wish, but such is life, and any certain about wrong and right is a bit of joke.
 

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Cannavaro had a great season with Juve and won the WC with Italy when he was great in tournament.
2004/05 not awarded [Juventus had title revoked]
2005/06 FC Internazionale [Juventus had title revoked]


even I would have had a great season being able to push defenders in the box and get away with it, see how he is doing in Madrid pushing and giving out penalties :D
 

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Not more than Cannavaro winning in 2006 ?
C'mom, Raul disapeared when Figo, Zidane and Ronaldo arrived. That is how golden he is.
That still doesn't mean he did not deserve it in 2000/01 season when he scored 32 goals in all competitions. That was his best season. He outscored everyone and was instrumental in RM winning la Liga that season. Once the players mentioned arrived, then yes his performance went down. Still has nothing to do with what he accomplished that particular season.
 
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