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~~Argentina also won a world cup in 1986 when the military regime was gone. Just saying... You surely know it. For some reason you talked about lonesome world cup won in 1978...~~

!986 ?????? How ABOUT 1978 when the Frikken Gorilas where running the Country ???

It's a known FACT that The Bullies (Military in this particular case) paid off everyone for the Argies to WIN The WC in their Land in order to APEACE the Political Situation in the Country then.

Nothing better than making the DUMB and Poor believe That Argentina was The GReaTESt Futbol Power in the World, when it was a Lie.
 

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~~Argentina also won a world cup in 1986 when the military regime was gone. Just saying... You surely know it. For some reason you talked about lonesome world cup won in 1978...~~

!986 ?????? How ABOUT 1978 when the Frikken Gorilas where running the Country ???
1978 yes, 1986 no

And Argentina reached two more finals later in 1990 and 2014, both without the help of the generales.
 

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They are INDEED the breeding grounds of GREAT Football Players....But the Ball STOPS there...:surprise:
 

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1978 yes, 1986 no

And Argentina reached two more finals later in 1990 and 2014, both without the help of the generales.
It's part of every Competition in the World..You win so that people remember, NO ONE EVER recalls the Runner Up, it just brings back BAD memories. !!! :frown2:

With the Talent and the amount of HUMANS the Argies have, there is NO reason why they LAG way Behind tiny Uruguay when it comes to World Trophies, specially when the ONE they WON was a Ripoff. :crying:

I'm out of here....... ;)
 

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And Kiss Sampapa goodbye...They're goinn to get rid of his ass real soon...Arggies have ZERO tolerance for the NT Losses.. Unreal
 

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colocolo is en fuego!
 

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Humbird....Maradona has him (Sampapa) and The Coach of the U-20 for Argentina (Becacecce) between his Brows, now talk about somebody REALLY ON FIRE !!!!!

These Arggies are furious and in top of it ALL, just a few minutes ago in San Juan Argentina and for the Davis Cup CHILE took the first Point !!!

Hehehehehehe that gives me chuckles any day of the day !!! :D
 

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Jorge Sampaoli Has a Bold Tactical Approach for Argentina's World Cup Run

Jorge Sampaoli has a problem.

He is a coach with a proven record at the international level. He took Chile to its first international title, beating Argentina on penalties in the final of the 2015 Copa America. He represents the modern face of Bielsista football and has always dreamt of leading his national team. He is probably the first truly top-class coach Argentina has had since the departure of Coco Basile in 2008. But his football requires quick defenders and Argentina’s are slow.

There is a terrible irony in this, that just as Argentina has the coach it needs, it has players who don’t fit his ideal of pressing hard and maintaining a high line. Sampaoli was the third coach Argentina used in qualifying, the three draws and a win he managed in his four games in charge just enough to get La Albiceleste over the line. But what followed when he tried to impose his philosophy in full was deeply worrying. Although there were wins over Russia and Italy, Argentina also conceded four against Nigeria and six against Spain. The lesson was clear: Sampaoli’s football played with Nicolas Otamendi and Marcos Rojo at center back was highly vulnerable.

Sampaoli’s solution was radical. Others might have stuck with a familiar solution and hoped for the best. They might have done what Alejandro Sabella did at the last World Cup, which was to pack men behind the ball and hope Lionel Messi could do something. But Sampaoli decided to announce a new way of playing three weeks before the World Cup began and the use of a system that, if it has ever been played in the 155 years football has existed in its present form, has never gained any traction.

“It’s clear that we need to have a base system, which could well be the 2-3-3-2,” Sampaoli said at the squad announcement. “This will allow us to occupy different levels on the pitch, and develop our game in a way that will increase the difficulty the opponent has in containing us. Over and above having a compact, like-minded team of course. It would be through said different levels we are able to show our superiority–by dominating with the ball.”

Diego Maradona has already dismissed the plan as “ridiculous,” although given how badly his time in charge of the national side at the 2010 World Cup went, Sampaoli is unlikely to take too much notice of that. And the truth of it is that the formation may not be quite so outrageous as it initially sounds–and that it has been in the process of development since at least the friendly against Singapore last year.

Messi, as ever, is the key. Sampaoli had wanted to add additional security by adding a third central defender and deploying a 3-4-3, something he had done with Chile. Messi, though, played in that shape at Barcelona last season under Luis Enrique and found it both restricted him and drew opposing markers into the space, in a sort of inside-right position, in which he liked to operate.

He explained his reservations to Sampaoli, and they agreed that the best way for Messi to play was as a second striker drifting off a front man, almost certainly Gonzalo Higuain. Messi’s forthrightness in putting forward his opinion surprised many, but he is far more tactically engaged than is often realized; he often spends the first few minutes of games doing nothing other than wandering about assessing the opposition, which is why such a tiny proportion of all the many goals he has scored have come in the first five minutes of games.

But to play Messi in a front two with no other creator risks a huge dependence upon him, which has been an issue numerous managers have failed to resolve. Sampaoli’s solution is to add another, deeper-lying, playmaker, probably Ever Banega, supported by two shuttlers, probably Giovani Lo Celso and Angel Di Maria (although Di Maria was used wide in the recent friendly against Haiti with Lo Celso in a slightly more defensive role).

Either way, there is then a need for both a pivot to anchor the midfield–Javier Mascherano–and two wingbacks to offer width. That leaves a goalkeeper and two central defenders: 2-3-3-2. As Sampaoli pointed out, though, given how modern fullbacks play, very few back fours these days actually operate with four defenders, which the use of a deep-lying midfielder to offer cover as a third defender is standard for teams who use attacking fullbacks.
 

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Sampaoli was so submerged in the IDEA of coaching Argentina, that instead of saying NO to the AFA at the wrong time his job was offered to him...he might be gone from there without EVER probing to his countrymen how god a Coach he is/can be.

He should have said to the AFA..I am your Man, AFTER the WC...Then I can get the Arggies up to PAR for the Copa America 2019 in Brasil and the National Team in tune for the Qatar Eliminatories.

He may be fired in the next days, and never HAVE the right Chance again..Maradona and his followers want Sampaoli gone..and NEVER back in Argentina...WHY ???

It's his Country !!!!! Maradona had the CHANCE, he BLEW IT and lives there !!! :surprise:

I hope he gets the break..If he starts from SCRATCH after this mess...We will ALL hate Argentina again for being so good !!
 

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Indeed . . . . Argentina NT is DEAD

WE should pay you MOTHERS back for dedicating ALL THOSE SONGS to CHILE..... :wink2:

Your BAD Karma together with Peru's ... All became a nightmare !!! :grin2:
 

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Horror show it was. Sampaoli can win cups elsewhere but enough of tarnishing the reputation of the NT...he's a CLOWN.
 

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Horror show it was. Sampaoli can win cups elsewhere but enough of tarnishing the reputation of the NT...he's a CLOWN.
NOPE....The Clowns were Messi and Mascherano !!!!! And the REST of the Idiot Players that did not want to FOLLOW any Instructions :surprise::devil2:
 
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