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Are you Italians proud of this garbage known as the Serie A?

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SO much corruption. Referees suck. Galliani controls everything. Juve control the matches. Its crap.
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Deano said:
The Italian rules and systems is what sucks! The football when played is great but I think it is totally unfair what happens in maches at times to the smaller teams.
Fair to say that refs in Spain and in the EPL are probably worse.
Diavolo said:
Fair to say that refs in Spain and in the EPL are probably worse.
I'll give you the night to retract that statement before you feel sorry for having made them
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Pulsar36 said:
I'll give you the night to retract that statement before you feel sorry for having made them
:rollani:
Just say what you have to say without always being personal.
Excuse me? Since when was that personal? I said I'll give you the night to retract that statement. B/c its obvious that you are wrong. You actually think that any league has a ref bias as clear as Italian serie A refs for Juve?

Now stop defending your home league b/c we all agree its a piece of shit. Teams like Sampdoria and Reggina, true and real teams that don't cheat, don't deserve this bullshit by the top four clubs of Italy, Roma Inter Milan and Juvenuts.

And there you ahve it. I admitted Inter gets favored too. But its out of control. You can't realize the problem, can you?

Even Toni Samp will back me on this.
Pulsar36 said:
I said I'll give you the night to retract that statement. .
I have the right to do whatever I wish, right now it's going to sleep.
I'm sorry to have offended you Diavolo. Good night.
Deano said:
Juve fix matches and dope their players up which is also very unfair.
Yeah, did you see Moggi handing Raculbuto that fat check before the match? Oh, and did you see Zambrotta and Dr. Argicola sitting in the Juve bus fooling around? I bet they were doping.

Imbecile.
How can you idiots say that the match was fixed for Juve tonight? If it was, at least two Roma players would have been sent off and Zlatan's goal would have stood. Jealousy is a biatch, isn't it Deano boy?
Juve was found guilty of doping so don't act like this is some fukin news or something

It was clear to all neutrals and fans alike that Juve got favored in the game tonight. If you doubt that, or question it, then please turn off your TV and never watch it again.

Fourth of all, this is stupid as hell. Stop fighting team to team. This is not about Roma vs. Juve or Inter vs. Milan. this is about the nature of Italian football. Today they talk about Juve's biased ref calls. TOmorrow they talk about the game and seem to forget about it. Nothing will change when that happens. This has to become a scandl that has to be addressed. But of course Diavolo is claiming that there is nothing wrong going on in Italy, so I guess I am right in my assessment of how Italians think on this issue, not that there is anything wrong with them. If we had talk shows in NY, I would want biased calls and fights in my Yankees Red Sox games as well. It helps build up the talk shows. Cuz you know ,there is nothing better than making sure Italian Calcio shows have something to talk about in the week.
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Pulsar36 said:
Juve was found guilty of doping so don't act like this is some fukin news or something
Wrong. Dr. Agricola was found guilty of administering "too much" of a substance. No traces of illegal substances were EVER found in our players. You need to read up on this subject buddy.

It was clear to all neutrals and fans alike that Juve got favored in the game tonight. If you doubt that, or question it, then please turn off your TV and never watch it again.
Yeah Juve was favored, even though we had a perfectly fine goal disallowed and no Roman animals excuse me players were sent off. And a penalty on the edge of the box is extremely controversial to begin with. Don't be ridiculous.

Fourth of all, this is stupid as hell. Stop fighting team to team. This is not about Roma vs. Juve or Inter vs. Milan. this is about the nature of Italian football. Today they talk about Juve's biased ref calls. TOmorrow they talk about the game and seem to forget about it. Nothing will change when that happens. This has to become a scandl that has to be addressed. But of course Diavolo is claiming that there is nothing wrong going on in Italy, so I guess I am right in my assessment of how Italians think on this issue, not that there is anything wrong with them. If we had talk shows in NY, I would want biased calls and fights in my Yankees Red Sox games as well. It helps build up the talk shows. Cuz you know ,there is nothing better than making sure Italian Calcio shows have something to talk about in the week.
Yeah there is something wrong, but I wish people would not be so quick to point fingers at Juventus.

If Juventus was actually found guilty of doping with SUFFICIENT evidence I would want them to take away our titles and give them to the runners up. It would only be the right thing to do. That still would not solve the problems though.
It's one thing scoring by luck at the end of the game and it's surely a painful way to go down,but to get results by cheating is one thing I hate.Juventus seem yo be embroiled in the controversial decisions far to often.
Andr3w, I just have to say you're making a real fool out of yourself once again. Keep up the good work.

I love your argument" OK, the ref helped us, but he wasn't bribed, because he could've helped us more". He helped you just enough to win, no need to disgrace himself even more and risk his life by doing even more.
Diavolo said:
I have the right to do whatever I wish, right now it's going to sleep.
ohh yeah, sorry about that, but i said night not right
Here is my five point plan for the Serie A:

1) No more officials from clubs being in charge of Italian League offices.
2) Make sure referees are well-trained and graded. An example would be the NFL referees Boss, who watches every game every weekend and afterwards drills refs who make bad calls. Refs should be under pressure to get the game right and not dilly dally on the sidelines or on the field. They should be reprimanded when things don't go right. A possible solution is a pay penalty, or a drop in reputation, causing you to take charge of less important matches.
3) Use video evidence and TV sounds/video to capture crowds hooliganism, violence and racist chants. And fine the club heavily for it. Once Roma was fined in the CL, you didn't see much of a stadium anymore. Do the same in the Serie A. We cannot have racist chants going on all over the place, nor violence. Fine teams that have those fans, including Inter, and possibly take away home games if necessary. The fans will not do that kind of behavior when they won't be able to make games anymore, or ticket prices are raised. A requirement should be for ticket prices to be raised to pay for the fine. That way the fans feel the wrath. Additinoally, even tho innocent fans pay, it is necessary to get the right things done.
4) Create a investigation board in the Italian National Congress that will investigate all football-related incidents. Have them tackle any big scandals and let them hold hearings and create a report, more importantly a solution, to tackle that problem. Let them have discretion as to when to start an investigation and when to end it. This will result in all problems not being ignored.
5) Lastly, improve the rules of the game in regards to offsides. Clarify the offsides rule in the rulebooks, clarify the diving rule, and cut down on the diving incidents. Fine players for diving incidents caught on camera. Fine players on harsh tackles and behind the back challenges. This is already done and I applaud this first step in a better Italian Serie A. Now, lastly, I want to get rid of drugs in football, so step up drug testing and make sure no player is left behind (in terms of tests)

This is my plan. I hope most of it is being done and will be done in the future. We need to change the game.
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a very big LOL for some comments in this thread
Look thanks for the input, but can't all of you guys talk seriously here? I was being serious when I made my comments, but I'm sorry to say Diavolo got me off-topic as usual. I'm sorry for going off-topic, but I want ways to change this league for the better. What do you think guys?
Pulsar36 said:
Look thanks for the input, but can't all of you guys talk seriously here? I was being serious when I made my comments

...prompting an erruption of laughter in Copenhagen, Denmark, matching Vesuvio proportions, possibly spreading to the entire planet :).
Ok fine. Don't take me seriously> Whatever. Maybe I should just leave.

I'm an idiot. There I hope you are all happy.
Nah, I think there are many people who enjoy your posts. Noone can complain you're not passionate :).
I am not saying that last night was at all fixed but all Im saying is that I would be ashamed if my team were doped up for 5 years and won more than 5 titles because of this.

I would also be ashamed of winning in such a way were both goals were clearly not legitimate. I think its more a crap ref than cheating but its the way it went and most Juve fans are such scum for gloating about winning in such a way. If Roma win like that I would be content, but I would not gloat the way some have done here.

I only hope Milan win the scudetto and Juve lose to Real as they are clearly the most unattractive side in Europe.
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