Yari-Turk, come on thats not fair. I do not make the same arguments, however the same events keep on happening. Let's assume I was extremely biased when we received 5 red cards, but this time around I am %100 correct.yarý-Turk said:nice to see you back d-lite, even if you are still making the same arguments :tongue:. I think it's fair to say that the BJK forum goes completely dead without you .
I did´nt see the game but watched those situations, it was awful, just like the first 20 minutes in Samsunspor game.... Now since the difference with Fener right now is only 3 points, i really hope that the refs stops being so hostile against BJK. :fero: And our players have to learn to keep themselfes calm. They cant continue to pick up yellow and red cardes every damned gameD-lite said:Hi everyone,
I've been away for a while because of internet problems, and i'm just getting teh chance to type up some stuff.
I don't want to dwelve any further into this topic because it's really agitating, however i need to say this:
Anyone with any common sense and any football knowledge should watch the game once again and answer these questions:
1) was a penalty on Besiktas not given?
Please remember that Ahmet Yildirim was red carded for 1-10th of what was done to Ibo.
2) Was the goal which was ruled 'offside' truely offside?
I think it wasn't-and TV replays show this.
Now,either our referee's suck to the Nth degree, or there's something wierd going on here.
About Tumer-what he did wasn't right, but i understand him. After all, the players work their guts out on the field, so they get angry when the ref's make unbelievably cynical (or stupid-depending on how you look at it) decisions.
Even Sergen (who is notorious for telling the truth and never lieing) says:
'the players of opposing teams (ankaragucu) kick us and bruise us, but the referee's somehow look the other way and act as if they don't see the fouls committed against us.'
However, as professional players they should learn to play despite crappy referee's.
That's why Bilgili told everyone to stop making statements and just play football.
Well, whether the same events keep on happening or not, clearly you ARE making the same arguments and talking much more about the refs than your players . Now, in this particular match, you have a point about the officiating. Although I don't agree with your points #1 and #2 ( though they are both debatable positions) it is definitely true that the BJK players were absolutely manhandled by Ankaragücu at times and the ref did nothing. On many occasions, the Ankara players were nowhere near the ball in their challenges and looked to be going straight for the man rather than the ball. Zago, in particular, was battered hard by some really late challenges. In this way, the ref had a very poor game.D-lite said:Yari-Turk, come on thats not fair. I do not make the same arguments, however the same events keep on happening. Let's assume I was extremely biased when we received 5 red cards, but this time around I am %100 correct.
1-A penalty which Besiktas deserved wasn't given
2-Our goal was ruled offside when it CLEARLY wasn't.
3-Ankaragucu players kicked the hell out of our players and the referee didn't even blow his whistle.
Even buddies of mine from different teams agree with me on this one.
Watch the match yari-turk, and you'll see what i mean.
TRo everyone else: thanx for the warm welcome
I never thought i'd be missed hehe