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Ok guys, ive been out for the last days, celebrating my 500 years of Brasil.
But I have to do something here in the Brazilian forum right! I got some quotes of one of the best Brazilian football journalists, out of the book Futebol-Arte, which explains the culture and the art of us Brazilians! Happy Birthday Brasil...let's hope for a better 500 years than the one that has gonne by!

- What counts really iis the ball and the kid, and by a ball you can think about a coconut, an orange or an egg, because I've seen people juggle an egg! If a football can be considered the sublimation of a coconut, or a rehabilitation of an egg, the official pitch is nothing more than a boring rectangle. That's why, in the spare time , our professinals look for a kick around or foot-volley, like Garrrincha left his bots in the Maracanato play in Pau Grande. Its the ball and the kid, the kid and the ball. Chico Buarque

- The ralation between the people and footballl has been so intense and productive, that many Brazilians forget that football was invented in England and think that like the Mulata, Samba, Feijoada and "saudade" a Brazilian product. Roberto da Matta

- The most sordid kick about, has a shakesperian complexity. Nelson Rodrigues

-The beauty of football, is really, to be an anti-theatre, although it fits in equally a tragedy and a comedy. Although it has a text, a vocabulary, its organization has to be re-thought at each minute. Gerald Thomas

- Football, lads, its not only tactics and technique, its poetry, emotion, history. Football builds a moral, an ideology, a feeling of justice and injustice, and above all it teaches us to live with the impoderable. Matinas Suzuki Jr.

- Go and study the football of Domingos da Guia or the licterature of Machado de Assis that you will find in each one's root, the brazilian autenticity, a little bit of Samba, a little bit of the smartness of Bahia, or even the Capoeira of Pernambuco, or the smartenss of of a Carioca. With these elements, is that Brazilian football left the well ordered original British football, to become a dance full of irrational surprises and Dionisic variations that it is. Gilberto Freyre , 1947

-It would be impossible this magical football, elastic, acrobatic, if their was not the Brazilian man. Nelson Rodrigues

- Their is no crime in the bottom half of the Equator. Chico Buarque

-The use of the feet , differently of the use of the hand, oblies the inclusion of all the body, specially the legs, the hips and the waist. These parts of human anatomy, that in the case of Brazilian society, is the aim of an organized simbolism. Roberto da Matta

-Football-force has a stylewere the importance of training (consequently on racionality) is bigger and more intense. Roberto da Matta

- A dribble of Garrincha, a header of Pele, a dead leaf of DIdi are the perfection of the Brazilian behaviour on the problems of existence. They are malicious, they invent, they have the Brazilian little way. Paulo Mendes Campos

- After each play of Garrincha, I felt the happiness that only the prime work of art arouse. Nelson Rodrigues

-Its a boy , a kid. If he wanted to get into a film of Brigitte Bardot, he would be banned. But notice: he is a genius, with no doubt. I say and repeat: Pele could look to Michelangelo, Homero or Dante and greet them with an intimate efusion. Nelson Rodrigues.

-While Pele left the public with their mouths open, surprised, admired wherever he went, Garrincha made the stadium laugh. Their being the happiniess of the people. Garrincha was Chaplin , Pele was Spielberg. Juca Kfouri

-The English papers say the following of our Footbnall: IT SHOULD BE PROHIBITED TO PLAY SO BEAUTIFUL. Nelson Rodrigues, 1970

-The knowledge of Brazil goes thorough football. Jose LIns do Rego

-Football gives the Brazilian society an experince of equality and social justice. Roberto da Matta

- The Selecao (national team selection) is the nation in shorts and boots. Nelson Rodrigues

-I stopped believing in God the day I saw Brasil lose thw WC in the Maracana. Carlos Heitor Cony

-We think that God does not like football. And therefore, we exclude him from the atributions of our support. Well, no Brazilian can be nothing, in football or outside, without your medal in the neck, without its saints, without its promises and without its personall God inexangeble. Its this mistical Arsenal that explains the big victoties. Nelson Rodrigues

-Their has never been a neutral supporter since paradise. Only a mental retarded,can be fair in a sport histerically emotional. Nelson Rodrigues

- Their probably will be the day were Flamengo will not need players, nor managers, nothing. Only the shirt, opened in the arch. And, confronted witht the impotent furor of its opponent the black and red shirt will be a inexpugable bastille. Nelson Rodrigues

-Their is in the goal the same emotional force as in sex. Achilles Chirol

- THE WORLD CUP IS OURS!. Brasil , 1958


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any comments??? :) :) :)

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Well, Ze, that one is clearly more to read than to comment, I guess.

Very nice post, that's as clear as well :)
 

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Czar,
read the quotes thoroly!! :)
Speacilly the one that talks about Pele...its self explanatory :) :) :)

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-Their has never been a neutral supporter since paradise. Only a mental retarded,can be fair in a sport histerically emotional. Nelson Rodrigues

My favorite :)
 

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Toany,
That's the essence of football :)

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just bringing it up, so more people can read!! :) :) :)

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Falcao,
buy it brazil.
the name is futebol-arte.....a brilliant nbook, based more on pictures than words.
The front cover has a samba guy all made up for carnival, and in the lower part of his body, their is Ronaldo's legs. Briliant book.

Kat, it was Bill Shankly who said that! :)

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hey kat i think the coach of liverpool once said that!!
 

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Ze, fabulous quotes!I've been waiting for these for weeks!
Another more reason why the brasilian forum is the most interesting and enriching one. It really doesnt matter how many posts this forum receives!What matters is that TRUE and knowledgeable football fans frequent it!We don't need and don't want pseudo-fans or glory-hunters in here!Its not the quantity that counts but quality!
ANd the brasiian forum is all about quality!
Keep up the "bonitissimo" work Ze and CO!

Tchao amigao Falcao, como estas?I'll record you the tape this weekend and send it next week.

Forza Magico Milan!
Hala Madrid!
Allez Les Bleus!
Arriba Espana!
Viva Brasil!

Ze, do you have some more?COuld you tell me more about the book Falcao was asking you?

I really like this one:"The Selecao is the nation in shorts and boots" How true!
 

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San-Siro-1, whenever you send the tape is fine with me. obrigado.

ze, i will look for that book when i go to brazil in november. i will see some rio girls my first day, the second day, the third day ... the 19th day, then i will buy the book on the 20th day, then i will see some more girls on the 21st day, the 22nd day ....

i will read the book when i come back to new york.
 

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Kat, thanks for the compliments :)

Nasty, i already posted the name of the manager..it was Bill SHankly :) the mentor of LIverpool, he started it all the tradition of the club :) He also, said: "cups are all very well, but the league is a bread and butter".
I am a LIverpool fan ,not so much these days cause it is hard tome to follow them, haven't done in 10 years properly, but when i lived in Wales, i was a big fan, even went to Anfield and cried a couple of games, of victories and defeats (the biggest one arsenal 89!

Were is Pool till i die?/

San Siro, yeah man, it s about quality and not quantity. When i go to other forums, i find impressive the amount of garbage people post. Also here we never have posts like " who will be the next star in 2020.....or things like that! :)
About the book, i don't know if it is available in France or America, cause it was my brother that gave it to me over xmas. :)
It is called "utebol-Arte, a arte e a cultura do brasiliero jogar futebol". Their is mainly those quotes and loads and loads of pictures.....all cool pictures, that show all the mystical things and cultures of Brazilian footabll....so you don't need to know portuguese really :)
San Siro, are you french or spanish? WHo do you support, Milan???

Falcao, mind you the book is a bit heavy, so do save some energy to buy it.
Also while I was in Ipanema beach over the summer, I saw Edinho playing foot-volley and Junior, and they both have photos in hte book.....the bad thing was I din't have the book to have them sing the pictures :( Also Suzana Werner is in the book, don't know why? Probably cause she is gorgueous :)


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Ze, thanks for all these great infos!
But does the word Fiel stand for something in particular?
Ze and you all people i have a good post here for you that i found on the Milanmania forum. Ze with your permission i posted your quotes on the Milan forum and wanted everyone to share with all my Milanisti friends your great post on the brasilian quotes!And i had someone, a good knowledgeable Milan poster who came up with the following post, very interesting about an Uruguayen poet, Edouardo Galeano, a great one too!
Here's the link to that post:http://www.milanmania.com/forums/Forum7/HTML/000123.html

"In the spirit of sharing, here are some passages from the great Uruguayan writer Eduardo Galeano (whom I was lucky enough to meet when I was an undergraduate).
On Oscar Friedenreich, the first Brasilian superstar: "This green eyed mulatto founded the Brasilian style of play. He, or the devil that got into him through the sole of his foot, broke all the rules in the English manuals. Friedenreich brought to the solemn stadium of the whites the irreverrence of brown boys who entertained themselves fighting over a rag ball in the slums. Thus was born a style open to fantasy, one which prefers pleasure to results. From him onwards, there have been no right angles in Brasilian soccer, just as there are none in the mountains of Rio de Janeiro or the buildings of Oscar Niemeyer."
On the goal that put Italy in the final of World Cup 1938: "Meazza was the dandy of the picture. A short, handsome, Latin lover and an elegant artilleryman of penalties...his feet, as soft and knowing as hands, never missed. But Walter, the Brasilian keeper, was good at blocking penalties and felt confident. Meazza began his run up, and just when he was about to the execute the kick, he dropped his shorts. The crowd was stupified and the referee nearly swallowed his whistle. But Meazza, never pausing, grabbed his shorts with one hand and sent the goalkeeper, disarmed with laughter, down to defeat. That was the goal that put Italy in the final."
On Didi of Brasil: "He was a master of the long ball, a near goal that would become a real goal on the feet of Pele, Garrincha or Vava, but he also scored on his own. Shooting from afar, he used to fool keepers with the 'dry leaf'; by giving the ball his foot's profile, she would leave the ground spinning and continue spinning on the fly, dancing about and changing directions like a dry leaf caught in the wind, until she flew between the posts precisely where the goalkeeper least expected. Didi played unhurriedly. Pointing to the ball, he'd say: 'She's the one who runs.' He knew she was alive."
On the lot of the keeper: "In 1993 the Colombian team...crushed Argentina 5-0 in Buenos Aires. Such a humiliation cried out for someone to blame, and the guilty party had to be-who else?-the goalkeeper. Sergio Goycoechea paid for all the broken dishes. The Argentine team had been undefeated in thirty matches, and in each one Goycoechea was the key to their success. But after Colombia's goalfest the miracle penalty-blocker not only lost his nickname, Santo Goyco, he also lost his spot on the team. More than one fan recomended suicide."
On Euro '92: "Germany and Denmark faced each other in the final...The German players were raised on fasting, abstinence and hard work, the Danes on beer, women, and naps in the sun. The Danes had lost out in the qualifiers and the players were on vacation when war intervened and they were called urgently to take Yugoslavia's place in the tournament. They had no time for training and no interest in it, and had to make do without Michael Laudrup, a brilliant, happy and sure-footed player who had just won the European Cup in a Barcelona shirt. The German team, on the other hand, came to the final with Matthaus, Klinsmann and all its stars. Germany, who ought to have won, was defeated by Denmark, who had nothing to prove and played as if the field were a continuation of the beach."
On Latin Americans love of the game: "Few things happen in Latin America that do not have some indirect or direct relation with soccer. Whether it is something we celebrate together, or a shipwreck which takes us all down, soccer counts in Latin America, sometimes more than anything else, even if it is ignored by idealogues who love humanity but can't stand people."
On Brasil: :"There are towns and villages in Brasil which have no church, but not one lacks a soccer field. Sunday is the day of hard labor for cardiologists across the country. On a normal Sunday people die of excitement during the mass of the ball. On a Sunday without soccer, people die of boredom."
On the 1950 World Cup" "I was a little kid and a soccer fan, and like every other Uruguayan I was glued to the radio in 1950, listening to the World Cup final. When the voice of Carlos Sole broadcast the melancholy news of Brasil's first goal, my heart sank to the floor. Then I turned to my most powerful friend. I promised God a heap of sacrifices if He would appear in the Maracana and turn the game around...Although Uruguay's victory...was certainly a miracle, it was the work of a flesh and bone mortal named Obdulio Varela. Obdulio cooled the game down when the steamroller came at us, and then he carried the entire team on his shoulders...At the end of the day, reporters surrounded the hero. Obdulio didn't stick out his chest or boast about being the best. 'It was just one of those things,' he murmured shaking his head. And when they wanted to take his picture, he turned his back...The top brass of Uruguayan soccer rewarded themselves with gold medals. They gave the players silver medals and some money. Obdulio's prize money was enough to buy a 1931 Ford. It was stolen a week later."
On Moacyr Barbosa, ill-fated Brasil keeper: "...In that final game in 1950, the Uruguyan attacker Ghiggia suprised him with a bulls-eye from the right wing. Barbosa had come forward. He leapt back and his fingers grazed the ball as he fell. He got up convinced he had knocked the shot away and found the ball in the back of his net. That was the goal that left the Maracana dumbfounded and crowned Uruguay as champions. Years went by and Barbosa was never forgiven. In the qualifying for World Cup 1994...he wanted to encourage the Brasilian players. He went to their training camp, but the authorities would not let him in...Barbosa commented; 'In Brasil, the most you can get for any crime is thirty years. For forty-three years I've been paying for a crime I did not commit.'"
On Johan Crutff: "Holland had music and the one who carried the melody, keeping so many simultaneous notes on the pitch and in tune, was Johan Cruyff. Conducting the orchestra and playing his own instrument at the same time, Cruyff worked harder than anyone. This scrawny live-wire earned a spot on the Ajax roster when he was only a child...he did everything they asked of him, and nothing they ordered him to do. He wanted to play and they wouldn't let him because his body was too weak and his will too strong. When they finally gave him a chance, he took it and never let it go. Still a boy, he made his debut on the Dutch team, played stupendously, scored a goal and knocked out the refaree with one punch. From that night on he kept up his reputation for being tempestuous, hardworking and talented. Over two decades he won twenty-two championships in Holland and in Spain. He retired when he was thirty-seven after scoring his final goal, and the crowd carried him on their shoulders from the stadium to his house."
On commercialism: "The most famous soccer players today are products who sell products. Back in Pele's day, players played and that was all, or nearly all. By Maradona's time, television and advertising already held sway, and things had changed. Maradona charged a high price and paid one as well. He charged for his legs--and paid with his soul."
On the Fla-Flu Derby: "Flamengo had been born...when Fluminense split in two after much saber rattling and many labor pains. Soon the father was sorry he had not strangled this s
 

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San Siro,
great post :)
Fiel stands for , loyal, faithfull, as the Corinthains supporters are the most fanatics and loyal to their club...never letting the club alone! in defeat or in vicotory :) we are the 12th player on the pitch :) and probably the most important one :)

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