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ADEMILSON



Ademilson Braga Bispo Junior
Sao Paulo
Jan 9th, 1994
23 goals in the 2009 Camp Paulista U15, Top Scorer
Powerful and quick, he is overshadowed by the trendy name of Lucas Piazon. Although small, he has time to grow. Compares to a Luis Fabiano type.

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ANDRIGO


Andrigo Oliveira de Araujo
Striker/Winger
Internacional
February 27th, 1990
Top scorer of the 2009 U15 Campeonato Gaucho
Top scorer of the 2009 Torneio Votorantim
Best player of a U15 cup, when he was 14.
This kid is quick and agile, which has led to comparisons to an ex-Inter, Alexandre Pato. Scored 3 times against Sao Paulo in a 4-0 rout in the Votorantim, and hasn't looked back. Traffic and Manchester United attempted to combine for a 300 000 pound purchase, but it was rejected.

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ADRYAN


Adryan [L], with Alex Pato and Romullo (Vasco)


Adryan Oliveira Tavares
Attacking Midfielder
Flamengo
August 10th, 1994
The second attacking midfielder from Flamengo to play for the U16 team, with Mattheus Oliveira, he's pretty much taken Jean Carlos Chera's spot, a controversial move by the manager. There is, however, no denying that he deserves his spot; he was top scorer of the Torneio Mediterraneo earlier in April, which Brazil won in Barcelona. Looks so much like Keirrison!



CLAUDIO WINCK




Claudio Winck Neto
Grêmio/Internacional
Attacking Midfielder
April 15th, 1994
Son of ex-footballer Sergio Winck and nephew of Brazilian international Luis Carlos Winck, he is currently being fought over by Gremio and Internacional, though he was raised at Gremio. Hasn't been called up in the past 6 months, but was a former U15 international.


DIEGO ASSIS


Diego Duran de Assis Moreira
Internacional
Attacking Midfielder
August 31st, 1994
de Assis Moreira... de Assis Moreira... AH! Son of Roberto Assis, ex Sporting player, and nephew of Ronaldo de Assis Moreira, better known as Ronaldinho Gaucho. No where near the other Internacional players as far as development so far, but still worth mentionning that he exists.


FERNANDO AMORIM


Fernando da Conceicao Amorim
Attacking Midfielder
Internacional
March 20th, 1995
A rare occurance, he was the golden ball at the Copa do Brasil Sub 15, playing with kids a year older. Already at 1.70 metres, he's a player who has been flying under the radar behind other Inter youth stars like Andrigo, Glênio and Marlon Bica.



GLÊNIO


Glênio [R] with Alexandre Pato


Glênio Luis Maxvell de Lima
Internacional
Centre Back
February 28th, 1994
Glenio is a scary player to face. Tough and imposing, he is great in the air. Was the second leading scorer in the Copa do Brasil U15 of 2009, with 4 goals. Appointed MOM in the final, on the team of the tournament. Starter and key player for the National youth sides. No spectacular goals, just headers. Great on set pieces on both sides of the pitch.


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(NATHAN, who just missed the cut for this thread, with the first goal and lovely dance. VITOR HUGO with the cross for the Santos goal. GLÊNIO with the third goal.)



GUIDO


Guido Menezes Barreto de Andrade
Goalkeeper
Vitoria
February 18th, 1994
Captain of Vitoria's youth setup and goalkeeper for the national youth team. Good reflexes and positionning. Comes from a Vitoria academy known for producing good keepers. Made headlines earlier in April when he stopped 2 penalties for Brazil at a U16 international tournament in Spain against FC Barcelona.
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GUILHERME



Guilherme Costa Machado Silveira
Left winger
Vasco da Gama
March 31st, 1994
A top winger who, for a lefty, plays very well with his right foot, Guilherme is a starter on the left for the U15 national team, working well with Adryan, of rivals Flamengo. He is excellent at delivering set pieces, which of course will lead to comparisons to another Vasco great; Juninho. But other then set pieces, they have nothing in common.


JEAN CARLOS

Jean Carlos [R], with Neymar.

Jean Carlos Chera (Anderson)
Attacking Midfielder
Santos
May 12, 1995
2009 Paulista U20 - 12 goals
Well, the hype has been in overdrive about Jean Carlos Chera since he's about 9 years old. A simple youtube search shows you how talented he was as a youngster. However, he's still doing pretty well for himself, playing with kids a year older then he is. The kid is crazy skilled and has a wonderful boot for free kicks. Wearing #10 in the video, plays a role in the first 2 goals. Has been contacted by Barca, Milan, Manchester United, Sevilla and others.

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extreme bullshit.

if this guy knew anything about brazilian football history then he would know that most of our 'craques' didn't even play good in youth teams and most of the kids that did great in the youth teams end up having a mediocre career when turned pro

This is a 110% guesswork.

Looks like a hyping job.
 

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JONATAS PAULISTA


Jonatas Barbosa Rodrigues
Defensive Midfielder
Vasco da Gama
February 5th, 1994
Has struggled to adapt to a new role with the national team. Was originally an attacking midfielder and captain for Vasco, but has now been moved back to DM. Now a DM at Vasco too, still captain, he has adapted to a background role at the national level. As far as his playing style, he fits right in with the new brand of flashy/attacking defensive midfielders that is in style at the moment in Brazil.


LEANDRO AUGUSTO


Leandro Augusto da Silva
Winger/Striker
Corinthians
February 14th, 1994
Inspired by Ronaldo since his arrival, Leandro Augusto is the main boy too watch in the Corinthians youth setup. His father actually looks exactly like Ronaldo, but that's a side note. Anyways, the kid has a strong shot and has goot movement, which allows him to play a more supporting role for the national team.



LEO


Leonardo Bonatini Lohner Maia
Attacking Midfielder/Striker
Cruzeiro
March 28th, 1994
Top scorer in the Copa do Brasil Sub 15 with 6 goals, one more then Glênio. Has been scoring goals at every level, and is a recent call up of the U16 team.


LUCAS CRISPIM


Lucas de Figueiredo Crispim
Attacking Midfielder
Santos
June 19th, 1994
Would be a top rated player if he wasn't behind Jean Carlos Chera. Any other team or any other time. Futsal trained, knows his way around small areas, and, despite playing second fiddle, he'll have a ton of chances to shine. Comparable to Alan Patrick right now, who is stuck behind Neymar, Robinho and Paulo Henrique.
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LUCAS FARIAS
Lucas Farias Gomes
Anywhere
Sao Paulo
August 18th, 1994
Quick and strong, Lucas Farias is a well coached defensive midfielder who is making a swift transition to right back for the U15 national team. Not able to take Marlon Bica's spot, they worked together at adaptation and now have a great understanding of each other; when to push forward and when to cover. Expected to be holding the position at the U17 World Cup of 2011.


LUCAS OTAVIO


Lucas Otavio Veiga Lopes
Defensive Midfielder
Santos
October 9th, 1994
Tiny defensive midfielder is the spine behind this attacking Santos team. He is the boy who distributes the ball and keeps Vitor Hugo, Jean Carlos Chera, Vitao and company happy. Very talented with the ball at his feet, he's great in traffic.
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LUCAS PIAZON



Lucas Dominguez Piazon
Striker
Sao Paulo
January 20th, 1994
Lucas Piazon has already made worldwide headlines when he tried to get out of his contract at Sao Paulo so he could head to Chelsea, who so badly want him. Dominated the 2008 Copa do Brasil Sub-15 with Atletico PR, so Sao Paulo picked him up, where he has since dominated even more internationally and domestically. 10 goals in 7 games at the Campeonato Sudamericano Sub-15 attracted Chelsea, Manchester United and Arsenal to his case. He is NOT expected to ever play in the Brasileiro, a move to Europe is expected shortly.



LUCAS SEVERO



Lucas Severo
Holding Midfielder
Grêmio/Internacional
July 25th, 1995
Grêmio are known for bringing up defensive mids. Emerson, Lucas Leiva, Rafael Carioca, Tinga (Borussia Dortmund), Eduardo Costa (Monaco) and currently Fernando. Lucas Severo is a wandering DM, who will chip in the goals. He is already subject of controversy, as there is currently a big legal battle for him between the two big Porto Alegre clubs, Grêmio and Internacional. He signed with Inter in mid april and scored his first goal on the 28th and his second on the 1st of May. Big things are expected already.




LUCAS SINOP




Lucas Lopes Sinoop
Attacker
Coritiba
January 29th, 1994
Widely considered to be the best player in the state of Parana since the other Lucas has left, they are now teammates on the national U16 team. This Lucas impressed at the Copa do Brasil when Coritiba was the surprise team. He was third leading scorer at the tournament, after Leo (Cruzeiro) and Glênio (Internacional)



LUIZ GUSTAVO



Luiz Gustavo Tavares Conde
Palmeiras
Centre Back
February 12th, 1994
5 goals in the 2009 Camp Paulista U15
Technically sound, positionnally solid and has the height. For a big guy, he also is very quick. His toolbox is full. Impressed so much on a trial at Arsenal that they wanted to sign him. Former Captain of the U15 team. Oh, and no worries about his training... he wasn't trained at Palmeiras. The best player, defensively, in his age group.


MARLON BICA

Marlon Bica Bernardo
Internacional
Holding Midfielder
May 25th, 1994
Is pretty much the second coming of Dunga, except he can score.. Starter for the National U15 team, confident, solid defensively and splendid in attack, precise with tackles. Is already being trained as a leader for the U17 World Cup of 2011 and Inter fans see him as Sandro's replacement, long term. He's attracted interest from abroad already, but Inter are in no financial trouble.



MATTHEUS OLIVEIRA



Mattheus de Andrade Gama de Oliveira
Flamengo
Attacking Midfielder
July 7th, 1994
There's already a thread on him, son of Bebeto and inspiration for the famous "rocking the baby" celebration at the 1994 World Cup, 2 days after his birth. Is a creative midfielder who can play a deeper role as well. Will not score very many goals, but can provide a spark. Borderline starter on the U15 national team.

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ROMARINHO



Romario Hugo dos Santos
Palmeiras
Attacking Midfielder
June 1st, 1994
6 goals in the 2009 Camp Paulista U15
A kid who was attracting attention from Europe at the age of 13, Barca tried to pluck him, Messi and Gio dos Santos style. But he stayed and has lead Palmeiras in goals at every level. Injured last season, but he'll be back.


ROMULLO


Romullo Carvalho de Jesus
Striker
Internacional
January 19th, 1994
Just transferred from Vasco de Gama, Romullo recently replaced an injured Lucas Piazon on the U16 team's trip to Barcelona. He scored 3 goals in the tournament, and impressed quite a few scouts with his finishing abilities. Also scored 2 goals while replacing ADRIANO in a national team training match in 2009, playing alongside Ronaldinho.


VICTOR ANDRADE



Victor Andrade Santos
Striker/Attacking midfielder
Santos
September 20th, 1995
Linked to Benfica, Man City, Internazionale, etc, the Sergipe-born striker (no one ever comes from Sergipe, it's rare) has bonded with Pele and is already a media star in Santos. Expectations are Neymar-high.

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VITAO



Victor Hugo Cervantes Clemente
Winger
Santos
Jan 19th, 1995
Trained as an attacker, Vitao is now learning the defensive aspect of the position since he's at Santos. Could develop into a tremendous threat of a two-way wingback, or simply a creative midfielder.




VITOR HUGO



Vitor Hugo Camargo
Striker/Winger
Santos
Feb 7th, 1994
22 goals in the 2009 Camp Paulista U15
2nd top scorer
Connects well with Jean Carlos Chera, is a pure scorer. Brazil U16 international. Scores key goals at key moments, he has been developping very fast lately.
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YURI MAMUTE


Yuri Almeida
Center Forward
Grêmio
May 7th, 1995
Mamute, which translates directly to Mammouth, has been known as the best young hope to come out of Grêmio's academy since Anderson (Man U) and Ronaldinho Gaucho (Milan). Scored the Extra Time goal in the Copa do Brasil Sub 15 final to get a 1-0 win over Palmeiras... Has been playing above his age group for years... Plays a game of strength against older kids... Has the ability to play as an attacking midfielder as well, and has been compared to Anderson when in the AM role, exept better then Anderson at his age. At age 12, he had scored 33 goals in 14 games in the U13 Gaucho.
 

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Is acting like a dick a must in online forums? if you don't have anything insightfull to write don't write at all m8.. don't worry about your post count

extreme bullshit.

if this guy knew anything about brazilian football history then he would know that most of our 'craques' didn't even play good in youth teams and most of the kids that did great in the youth teams end up having a mediocre career when turned pro

This is a 110% guesswork.

Looks like a hyping job.
It's not the bible man, it's just a nice read for people interested in youth players and it has some nice insights about them and thier game.. the guy clearly put alot of effort and time in this.. atleast I think so.

Anyways I hope people enjoy the read, that was the purpes, not attracking trolls like the 2nd post in this thread and discussing whos better and whos not.. just the develompment of the youngsters.
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Again thanks for "Insider" for writing this, and all credit goes to him.
 

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What do you want me to say? That a bunch of untested kiddies are better than the 1970 WC winners or the 1982 WC runnersup?

Don't be daft. Getting your knickers in a twist over youth players is ridiculous. In the 1989 youth World Cup Scotland were runners-up to Saudi Arabia. Neither of those sides did anything in the 1990s. To quote a Times article from 2004, "The sad postscript to the tournament comes from the statistic that only three of these 17 players later featured for Scotland, and only five still play senior football."
 

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Crazy skilled #10 from Santos?
Past Examples: Pele, Diego Ribas
94/95: Jean Carlos

How can chera be compared to two complete different players?

Quick, dynamic striker from Internacional?
Past Examples: Alexandre Pato, Rafael Sobis
94/95: Andrigo Araujo

Alexandro pato and rafael sobis = complete different players



Big, strong, charging centre forward?
Past Examples: Adriano, Ronaldo
94/95: Yuri Mamute

adriano and ronaldo share the #9 shirt and that's it. Different type of strikers and this kid can do both then he's the second coming of jesus christ.

Top defensive midfielder from Gremio?
Past Examples: Lucas Leiva, Emerson
94/95: Lucas Severo

Really? Emerson was the typical "bulldog" dm. Lucas is a technique-based DM.

Sao Paulo phenom?
Past Examples: Kaka, Hernanes
94/95: Lucas Piazon

So he predicts Piazon gonna be a "phenom". WTF is this guys? Where does he talk about football? On what he bases his "guesses"? Piazon is white, kaka and hernandes are white thus piazon going to be a phenom? lol

Underrated attacking midfielder from Flamengo?
Past Examples: Djalminha, Marcelinho Carioca, Renato Augusto, Zico, Zinho
94/95: Adryan

WHAT THE **** IN THE NAME OF GOD IS THIS? Zico among these guys? He's an underrated midfielder from flamengo? lol?

Then he mentions three complete different players in Djalminha(who was more of a playmaker ie: #10 shirt) marcelinho (who was more of a attacking midfielder; ie: #7/#11 shirt) and zinho (who was more defensive minded; ie: #8 shirt).

Then he comes with a shitty player developed in Corinthians (if marcelinho is "a flamengo player" then Renato is a "corinthians player") who doesn't even know how to give a single assist. Renato can only score free kicks.
He completely sucks.

Ok, let me try to understand this: is he predicting that adryan going to be a underrated player? lol.

Attacking winger from Vasco?
Past Examples: Alex Teixeira, Philippe Coutinho
94/95: Guilherme

Alex teixeira sucks and philippe coutinho is already a "past example"? he didn't play good in vasco.


Player with the family ties?
Past Examples: Lucas Leiva (Nephew of Leivinha); Robinho (Godson of Pelé)
94/95: Mattheus Oliveira, Romulo, Claudio Winck, Diego Assis

player with fAMILY TIES? what the **** is this shit? I regret wasting my time trying to do an in depth analysis of this bunch of bullshit...



Goal scorer from Cruzeiro?
Past Examples: Ronaldo, Guilherme
94/95: Léo

WTF? How can leo be compared to one of the most skilled strikers of all time and AT THE SAME TIME with a worser version of luca toni?



Attacking player getting moved back?
Past Examples: Elias, Rithely
94/95: Jonatas Paulista

Wtf is this shit? really? so jonatas paulista was moved back then he's the new elias? lol? and who the **** is rithely? where does this idiot talks about football?


Surprise goalscorer from Coritiba?
Past Examples: Keirrison, Alex (Fener)
94/95: Lucas Sinop

Wtf is a surprise goalscorer?
Keirrison is a STRIKER and Alex is a playmaker. How can lucas sinop be both?

Sao Paulo DM who fits in at RB?
Past Examples: Jean, Richarlyson
94/95: Lucas Farias

JEAN AND RICHARLYSON SUCKS HAIRY BALLS. I feel bad for this kid if he sucks as much as them

Player overshadowed by teammates, yet fully capable?
Past Examples: Elano, André, Paulo Henrique (Ganso)
94/95: Vitor Hugo, Lucas Crispim

Paulo Henrique was overshadowed by who? Everyone in Brazil wanted to see him in the NT in the world cup. 90% of the people says he's the best player at santos...

Injury prone flair player?
Past Examples: Kerlon, Lulinha
94/95: Romarinho

LOL. amazing. He can even predict someone will be a shit player whom only do tricks and will suffer with injuries... unbelievable.

Attacking player who is almost a second thought at Santos and plays anywhere?
Past Examples: Elano, Wesley
94/95: Vitao

WTF? He's predicting that vitão going to be second guessed at santos? how can he predict this shit?

amazing.



Amazing. Simply amazing. This guy is a nerd who don't know anything about football and act like he does by throwing out known names to make his points (he doesn't have any besides baseless predictions) looks valid.
 

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Sorry stanko, you're a great poster here in the Brazilian forum and I apologize if you thought I directed these insults to you, someway. Sorry.

I'm just insulting the so called "insider".

Insider of his own fat ass. probably.
 

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@Chairman Meow no one is claming they are better it's just a fun article of some future footballers who are now kids, jesus.

nvm was a mistake to post it, people can't seem to understand the intention and has to argue like idiots instead..

@OBaixinho, again, I guess this forum is too much into a war-arguement mode that people can't just read a post and not be insulting to it.. it was clearly made for fun and he just made general similaritis, he isn't actually saying they ARE better or exactly the same, or beting his house and cloths that those kids will turn out as expected.
 

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btw I would bet my left nut that 80% of these players have the same manager...
 

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@Chairman Meow no one is claming they are better it's just a fun article of some future footballers who are now kids, jesus.

nvm was a mistake to post it, people can't seem to understand the intention and has to argue like idiots instead..
You perhaps shouldn't have used quite such a provocative title then if even you think it's just a fun article about some kids, half of whom may become actual established professional footballers in Europe.
 

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Sorry stanko, you're a great poster here in the Brazilian forum and I apologize if you thought I directed these insults to you, someway. Sorry.

I'm just insulting the so called "insider".

Insider of his own fat ass. probably.
It's cool no worries i'm not offended, it's just you guys took the meaning of the post and the 'prediction' too harsh, atleast not at all like I took it.

those similaritis is just milestones the guy noticed in the kids, it's obviusly far-fetched and probably most won't happen if any... from what he wrote about each player he clearly knows those players better then most and have watched them play... the prediction to ex stars is just made for fun to be more pleasent and enjoying to read.. I myself liked it and it was very informative.
 

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You perhaps shouldn't have used quite such a provocative title then if even you think it's just a fun article about some kids, half of whom may become actual established professional footballers in Europe.
I just copied what the guy wrote... anyways nvm I can understand your reaction but I thought you'de understand the similaritis part was just for fun and general understanding of what type of player each is and how it resembles players from the same clubs in the past.. the true article is the 2nd and 3rd posts with the info etc.
 

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@OBaixinho, again, I guess this forum is too much into a war-arguement mode that people can't just read a post and not be insulting to it.. it was clearly made for fun and he just made general similaritis,
I guess I missed it...

If he said: ok, someone dribbles to the inside and likes to shoot with his 'weaker' leg just like PLAYER X.

I would respect that. I would say: ok, he's unproven but well... he indeed looks like PLAYER X.

But saying: oh, he's white and like to cut his hair like a monkey while eating ice cream therefore he's the new macaquinho that I CANNOT RESPECT.

It angers me. I don't have fun reading a bunch of made up shit. Sorry, that's my personality. I already apologized TO YOU but this "insider" is a moron or he works for some managers...
 

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It's cool.. nvm i'd just delete the first part and keep the ones with info on players, thats what I really wanted you guys to read.
 

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I just copied what the guy wrote... anyways nvm I can understand your reaction but I thought you'de understand the similaritis part was just for fun and general understanding of what type of player each is and how it resembles players from the same clubs in the past.. the true article is the 2nd and 3rd posts with the info etc.
Fair enough. I grant you that I came in here to be a dick coz of the thread title. It just...I mean all due respect to the kids of 15/16 years ago, but I can't accept they are the best until they prove it at 25 or 26. I'm a cynic like that.
 

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No harm done m8 we're cool :)
 

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fun article. but too many names in there. a more compact and refined list with only a few selected group of players may have made it better. still, refreshing read
 
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