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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old December 16th, 2009, 22:07 Thread Starter
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Survivors of pre-war era and players who died in a War

I seriously believed they all are dead, but to my great surprise and pleasure I´ve read in Hyder Jawad´s book "Four weeks in Montevideo" that Francisco Varallo (99), argentinian who played the 1930 final game between Urus and Argentina, is still alive and lives in Buenos Aires.


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Who else is still alive ?

From Czechoslovakia and Hungary, none. František Plánička (1904-1996) was the last living finalist of 1934 finals. Last Czechoslovak player from 1934 squad was Géza Kalocsay (1913-2008) who later represented Hungary on 1938 World Cup. He was the last living Czechoslovak and Hungarian player of pre-war era. No clue about players of other teams.
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The last surviving member of the United States' 1934 FIFA World Cup™ team was Albert Harker (1910-2006)
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Pietro Rava, footballer, born January 21 1916; died November 5 2006 was the last survivor of the Italy team that won the 1938 World Cup
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Carvalho Leite (1912-2004) was a member of the Brazilian 1930 World Cup squad, as well as the 1934 squad. He was the last survivors of the Brazilian 1930 World Cup team.

Fernand Jaccard (1907-2008) was the last men from Swiss 1934 squad.
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Lucien Laurent (1907-2005) was the last surviving member of the 1930 French team.

From the french 1934 team, these players could be still alive (no evidence about their death)

René Llense (1913-) goalkeeper, also participated on 1938 World CUp
Fritz Keller (1913-) - striker
Noel Lietaer (1908-) - defender

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another possible survivor:

french team 1938
Ignace Kowalczyk (1913-)

german team 1938
Ernst Lörtscher (1913-)
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Cuba 1938 last survivor: Juan Tuńas (1917-)
still lives in Mexico
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Fritz Keller (1913-) - striker

Died in 1985
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As I have studied biography of many legends before the World War II, I never found that anyone was killed in that War. Especially, such as Willimowski from Poland, Ferenc Deak from Hungary or Fritz Walter from West Germany. I just wonder there is no great footballers was killed in the War even one ? I ask because I ever feel regrettable about losing some players in that War.
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many pro football teams in UK lost their players in Great War (1914-1918)

f.e. Coventry City lost 5 players: Walter Kimberley (back), Steven Jackson, Tom Morris (centre-half), Jack Tosswill (inside-right) and Tubby Warren (inside-left).

Walter Kimberley who played for Coventry City, Villa and Walsall is buried in Coventry, Shorncliffe Cemetery. Found very nice thread about localisation of his grave here http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...ic=121085&st=0

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Arpad Weisz (1896-1944), hungarian-jewish player and coach, died in nazi camp Auschwitz. 7 caps of hungarian NT (1922-23), played for Interazionale Milano, plus coached several italian temas (Inter, Bari, Bologna, Novara) and dutch Dordrecht.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%C3%81rp%C3%A1d_Weisz

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another hungarian-jewish who passed away in WWII:

Jozsef Eisenhoffer (8 caps - 7 goals for Hungary)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zsef_Eisenhoffer

Ferenc Weisz (17 caps - 3 goals for Hungary)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferenc_Weisz

József Csibi Braun (27 caps - 11 goals for Hungary, coached MTK and Slovan Bratislava)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/J%C3%B3zsef_Braun

Sándor Brody (17 caps - 1 goal)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S%C3%A1...8footballer%29

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Acc.Hyder Jawad´y book "Four weeks in Montevideo" french player Alexandre Villaplane (1905-1944) who captained Franc on 1st World CUp 1930, died in WWII.



"During the WWII he became a leader of North African Brigade, crominal organisation consisting of immigrants who collaborated with the Nazis through anti-Resistance activities. He went by the unflattering nickname of SS Mohammed. He was sentenced to Death on December 1st, 1944 for his involvement in at least ten murders and was executed by firing squad on December 26 at Fort de Montrogue"

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Dr.Milutin Ivkovič (1906-1943) captained team Yugoslavia on the World Cup 1930.

from Hyder Jawad´s above mentioned book:

"A member of Communist Party (by choice rather than obligations ) he often found himslelf in trouble with the Authorities. His background proved to be his undoing when, after germans occupied Yugoslavia in 1941, Ivkovic was arrested. The Germans were aware of his political affiliations and his back-ground as an Olympic athlete. As a part of massacre that killed 80.000 people, he was murdered by Gestapo at Camp Banjica, jajinci, Yugoslavia, on May 23, 1943, aged 37"

Yugoslavia 1928, Dr.Ivkovič first from right

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Julius Hirsch (1892-1945)

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Hirsch was the first Jew to ever play for the German National team, and was a member of Germany's 1912 Olympic squad. In 1943, he was deported to Auschwitz and was murdered in the concentration camp.

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Joseph Dines (1886-1918) played all 3 matches on Olympic games 1912 where GB won gold

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joseph_Dines
He was killed in Pas de Calais on the Western front during World War I and buried in Hagnicourt.
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Celtic Glasgow lost 7 players in Great War (1914-1918)

Patrick Slavin, Leigh Roose, Donnie McLeod, Archie McMillan, Robert Craig, John McLaughlin, Peter Johnstone

http://www.kerrydalestreet.com/page/...+the+Great+War
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Hearts of Midlothian lost 7 players in WWI, Tottenham Hotspurs lost 11.

http://www.cwgc.org/glorydays/halloffame_ww1.html

Footballers' Battalion

There were over 5,000 men playing professional football in 1914. Of those, 2,000 joined the military services. Some of them joined up individually, but sometimes whole teams enlisted together. Clapton (now Leyton) Orient was the first. After Fred Parker, the team captain, went into the army, about 40 players and staff followed his example.

They joined the 17th Battalion of the Middlesex Regiment, which became known as the "Footballers' Battalion" it had so many players in it!

Second-in-command, Major Frank Buckley, was wounded in the shoulder and lung in 1917. He recovered to become manager of Wolves after the war.


Another nice thread about WWI casualties among footballers
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/fo...p/t5030-0.html

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