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|June 18th, 2019 23:39|
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|June 17th, 2019 23:08|
I feel for the players... a real 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' for them and something Zvezda and FSCG should have dealt with well in advance and in private
and they are all seljacine
|June 17th, 2019 11:33|
|June 17th, 2019 05:28|
Originally Posted by alchemist View Post
Savičević was and always will be a peasant.
|June 17th, 2019 00:32|
Terzic replied in kind that Savicevic was lying
|June 16th, 2019 23:37|
Originally Posted by SrpskiInat View Post
What happened ?
|June 14th, 2019 20:27|
I don't like the guy but Terzic literally just owned Dejan Savicevic. Almost like a father scolding and shaming his son for acting out in public.
|May 24th, 2019 09:04|
When you go from having a high of beating a team like Liverpool in the CL and subsequently winning the league title, you lose motivation. Tired players. Tired legs. Milojevic is a man of ego. He should have integrated our youth players this season. Terzic, Joveljic, Jocic, Erakovic, and a few others absolutely deserved more chances this season. He kept pushing the same players and system all season long and it eventually made his team extremely predictable. Being a coach a the top level, you have to be able to adapt quickly. Sure, he lost some key players in the winter and had issues with injury problems but this Partizan squad should have never beat them. Low effort from coach and players. All there is to it. This loss is probably the best thing that's happened to them. They'll come back even stronger for the CL qualifiers with or without Milojevic. I just hope that next season they start giving some of our younger players more playing time. Too much talent to just leave rotting in the youth league. Joveljic would be starting for many Serie A sides already. He's better than the year younger Vlahovic who seems to be getting more consistent playing time than him.
Hope this title will motivate Partizan to make some changes and challenge Zvezda next season. Competition is good for both clubs. They have a plethora of youth coming through the ranks that will one day be playing the highest level of the NT. Strahinja Pavlovic was once again class. Sky is the limit for the kid. I can see why Juventus are interested if the rumors are true. Svetozar Markovic has also been great but injuries got the best of him towards the end. They pushed him too hard this season. Pantic has a lot of room to grow. He's an interesting prospect because he can show signs of world class potential one day and then completely invisible the very next. Hopefully they'll continue this streak of performances with the U21 NT in the upcoming tournament. Markovic and Pavlovic will form a nice partnership in the future right alongside Milenkovic.
|May 23rd, 2019 19:58|
|Red_Bandit||Lost to partizan 1-0 at home. Pathetic display in the first half|
|May 22nd, 2019 21:55|
For those unaware, the Serbian Cup final is in Belgrade tomorrow at our stadium. It's Red Star vs Partizan in the eternal derby.
Projected starting 11 and reserves -
Stojkovic Savic Milunovic Rodic
Ben Marin Ivanic
Reserves: GK Popovic, D Gobeljic, DM Causic, CM Vulic, W Jevtovic, W/S Vukanovic, S Joveljic.
Babic is out through suspension given an accumulation of cards while Boakye is out for the season. The only question mark is Jovicic who has a small problem but has been fit for most of the season. If he doesn't start chances are we'll see Gobeljic or Vulic. The only other potential change might be Ivanic moving into the middle and one of Jevtovic or Vukanovic starting on the left wing. I'd also like to see Jirka but I doubt he'll be in the 18 for this game.
|May 22nd, 2019 21:51|
Originally Posted by Red_Bandit View Post
|May 22nd, 2019 21:31|
Originally Posted by SrpskiInat View Post
For reference, if Milojevic wins the domestic title next season, he'll only be the second manager in Red Star Belgrade HISTORY to win three domestic league titles in a row. The first? Miljan Miljanic, the same Red Star Belgrade manager who defeated Liverpool over two legs and went on to manage Real Madrid to back to back La Liga titles in the mid 1970's. He also won the Copa del Rey in his first season in a domestic league-cup double. Miljanic managed to win 4 titles as Red Star Belgrade manager before moving on to Los Blancos. He is also the same manager who in legend fashion refused to travel to Belgrade for the second leg of the 1974/1975 Cup Winners Cup quarterfinal with Real facing Red Star noting "I cannot betray my own club." He stayed in Madrid and watched Real's 2-0 first leg lead evaporate in Belgrade. Red Star won 2-0 and the match went to penalties, in what has to be the second most famous penalty win in Red Star history after Bari in 1991. We lost to Fervernacos 4-3 on aggregate in the semi-final.
|May 22nd, 2019 05:13|
|May 17th, 2019 17:45|
Originally Posted by marakana11 View Post
We drew Mladost 0-0 away in Lucani to reach the Cup final. Partizan drew Radnick in Nis 1-1, which means an eternal derby in the Serbian Cup Final. We will play the derby at the Marakana instead of Nis as the security for the match has come into question. Players from both sides have also noted that the pitch in Nis is not up to standard and would prefer the match to be played in Belgrade.
Before then, we have a proper celebration for the title as we face Napredak Krusevac in our last league match at the Marakana. This will be a festive occasion as we will be celebrating our 30th domestic league title, which means a third star on our crest for next season as well as the 30th birthday of the Delije. Entrance is free and it's expected to be a full house. Celebrations start an hour before the match starts when the players will come out to lift the title.
Also, our home jersey for next season has been unveiled, and it's quite something.
|May 14th, 2019 00:34|
In regards to our remaining fixtures we have -
Wednesday, May 15th - away vs. Mladost Lucani (Serbian Cup Semifinal 2nd leg, CZ leads 4-1 on aggregate)
Sunday, May 19th - home vs. Napredak Krusevac (last round of the Jelen Super Liga)
Thursday, May 23rd - neutral ground vs. Partizan or Radnicki Nis (Serbian Cup Final)
Radnicki Nis face our eternal rivals at the same time we are away in Lucani. Radnicki lost the first game away in Belgrade 1-0.
|May 14th, 2019 00:07|
At the same time, a part of me thinks a lot of this media hype (and I repeat, rumors -- nothing has been confirmed by club or coach) is really down to trying to unsettle the club's and coach's relationship with the squad and the fans. I think every normal Zvezda supporter loves Milojevic for what he has done, and will support him whatever his decision may be.
Overall, I don't think our management (meaning Mijailovic, Terzic and Mrkela) could have done much more given the circumstances of our economy to keep Milojevic as boss. If there are specific reasons, then surely those are reasons we don't know and we will never know given how old school Vladan is with the media (i.e. everything is kept between him and the club). Milojevic has been given the necessary coaching staff he desired as well as upgrades to our youth school and the players he has always wanted. We kept El Fardou Ben in January at the insistence of Milojevic even though we had a 4 million Euro offer for him which is a lot for a 30 year old coming into his last year of contract (according to certain sources). Mrkela also acquired Mirko Ivanic and Nemanja Milunovic from BATE Borisov, two great signings and someone Milojevic and his coaching staff targeted in their first summer transfer window of July 2017. These were players that Milojevic wanted during every transfer window since his arrival at the club. Given these transfer acquisitions this past winter as well as the retention of Ben, this has made me think Vladan will stay as coach, and that all of these stories surrounding his resignation are hot air given the upcoming cup final. Also, look at the contract situation in my post above. Never in my time has a Zvezda management team managed to resign almost the entire first team squad (20 of 23 players) to significant contract extensions. That's the type of stability we haven't seen in a long, long time.
As such, I truly believe that even if Milojevic does leave, it's probably on his own accord and because he is a little empty emotionally ("istrosen"), and I totally understand it. Milojevic has not shied away from how emotional he is to be coach of Red Star, a club he has played for. The same happened to Pep Guardiola, who after 3-4 years at the helm grew so visibly stressed by the pressure that he had to quit Barcelona, and that was at the time that Pep created one of the best teams, if not the best team in football history. At the same time, if the motivation is financial, I can understand that too. He is earning 600,000 euros per season currently. He could be making 2-3 million euros per season somewhere else given his current results. That is not a small difference for a coach that's still making his name. However, knowing Milojevic, a part of me just thinks it's not purely financial because he's such a perfectionist and how much he wants to challenge himself. That's why, I'll be very surprised if he goes to somewhere like China, Qatar, or UAE for the money as he doesn't strike me as that type of coach and person. If he leaves, something tells me he is moving West and wants to test himself against the biggest names in football in one of the top 5, 6 leagues. For example, Marco Rose, the Salzburg boss that is seen as one of the best upcoming coaches in world football (the young coach we took out in the CL qualifiers this past fall) is going to Borussia Monchengladbach to be their head coach. I wonder if Milojevic has targeted a similar career trajectory.
I for one hope Milojevic stays and sees out the last year of his contract. That would be incredible and whatever happens I don't think his stock would fall that much for him not to warrant these types of contract offers next summer even if we didn't have the same level of results in Europe, as it'll be hard to match this season. If he doesn't stay, I at least hope a good amount of his coaching structure will stay including Milan Kosanovic who's known as one of the best tactical and youth coaches in the Eastern European region and someone responsible for developing our youngsters into the first team.
In regards to DZ's comments - he is too cynical and is making some huge assumptions that to your point Fleka, are out of place. I think DZ is reacting to the BS media hype that's being propagated.
|May 13th, 2019 00:07|
|Fleka||What are you talking about ?|
|May 12th, 2019 23:20|
Milojevic is gone just as I predicted
They'd sell all his players, keep the profit, piss him off, force him out, and Partizan will win the league next season lol
It's so predictable. They only try to achieve something once every 10 years that's their goal. Make it to the CL group stages and rake in some money.
The naivety of some of you guys is hilarious thinking something would have changed.
|May 7th, 2019 23:49|
Absolutely amazing season. Words cannot do this season justice. I just hope Milojevic stays for the sake of the club's evolution. We need his stability and continuity to truly continue to build something. I could honestly care less about the Champions League next season, I just hope and pray we make Europe. We need continuity and for me, while the CL would be amazing and another 'miracle', even the Europa League for me would be a good achievement given the transfers that will probably occur in the summer.
The club has signed all of the most important players through at least the end of next season (see list below, longest contracts listed last) and we will ensure that for any summer transfers we get significant compensation. This sort of stability has not been created by management in a long, long time. These contracts should give us some financial leverage in transfers in asking for more money.
Given the stability of the last 2 seasons and given that Milojevic has gotten the squad of his wishes (as realistically as possible) it's key we keep him for next season to ensure we continue to make Europe and evolve. He signed a contract last summer through the end of next season (2019/2020) and I believe he will honor it as I don't think he would have made that decision lightly. I cannot remember the last time that the entire first team squad (i.e. main 23 players) all at least had contracts through the 2020/2021 season. The only three players out of the first 23 that have contracts expiring next summer (i.e. July 2020) are Zoran Popovic, Lorenzo Ebicilio and El Fardou Ben, which is just amazing for our standards.
1. Zoran Popovic - summer 2020 (July)
2. Milan Borjan - summer 2023 (July)
3. Filip Stojkovic - summer 2022 (July)
4. Milan Gajic - summer 2022 (July)
5. Nemanja Milunovic - summer 2021 (July)
6. Vujadin Savic - summer 2022 (July)
7. Srdjan Babic - end of 2022 (December)
8. Milan Rodic - summer 2022 (July)
9. Marko Gobeljic - summer 2022 (July)
10. Dusan Jovancic - summer 2021 (July - option to extend one more year)
11. Branko Jovicic - summer 2021 (July)
12. Goran Causic - summer 2021 (July)
13. Milos Vulic - summer 2023 (July)
14. El Fardou Ben - summer 2020 (July)
15. Aleksa Vukanovic - end of 2021 (December)
16. Eric Jirka - end of 2022 (December)
17. Lorenzo Ebicilio - summer 2020 (July - option to extend for one more year)
18. Marko Marin - summer 2021 (July)
19. Veljko Simic - summer 2022 (July)
20. Mirko Ivanic - summer 2023 (July)
21. Richmond Boakye - end of 2020 (December - option to extend one more year)
22. Milan Pavkov - end of 2022 (December)
23. Dejan Joveljic - summer 2023 (July)
Outside of the first team 23, I assume the following six players will leave this summer -
Nemanja Supic (GK - end of contract)
Stefan Hajdin (DL - sold or loaned out)
Rashid Sumaila (DC - Qabala SC loan expiring)
Jonathan Cafu (Winger - Bordeaux loan expiring)
Milan Jevtovic (Winger - sold or loaned out)
Nenad Milijas (CM - noted he will retire this summer).
The club will have to decide about 7-10 younger players coming back from loan, namely Dejan Meleg (Levaiadikos - he hasn't shown anything in Greece), Dejan Vidic (Zemun), Veljko Nikolic (Graficar), Aleksandar Stankovic (Graficar), Stefan Cvetkovic (Graficar), Jug Stanojev (Graficar), Aleksa Terzic (Graficar - rumored to be going to Italy), Nikola Krstovic (Zeta) and Ze Marcos (Grbalj). Out of the names mentioned I only believe Veljko Nikolic and Aleksandar Stankovic will make the first team next season. Nikolic has been by far the best player at Graficar while Stankovic will most likely be the third goalkeeper behind Borjan and Popovic. I believe most of the other players listed will either be re-loaned out or sold. It will also be interesting to see if Graficar make the Prva Liga Srbije next season (the Serbian division right below the SuperLeague) as that will mean we will have an affiliate in the division right below ours where we can loan out a lot of our younger players such as Stankovic, Erakovic, Krstovic, Nikolic and Cvetkovic to monitor their progress. This is very reminiscent of what we've done in basketball with FMP developing Zvezda's youth talent before they go to the first team and play in the Euroleague. This type of system can only be good for us long term.
Huge summer for the club. If all goes well, Milojevic will be back at the helm of the team that has won a league/cup double (fingers crossed) and we will have Graficar in the Prva Liga Srbije as our official affiliate to develop our youngsters alongside senior players.
|May 7th, 2019 23:00|
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