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post #1 of 38 (permalink) Old August 10th, 2008, 22:43 Thread Starter
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Goalkeeping!

I didn't know where to post this, so I decided the World Football forum was the place.

I want to be a goalkeeper. I am about 5'11, or 6 foot, so around 180cm. I weigh close to 190 pounds, or 95 KG. I play as a defender, but I just don't like it, and I have always wanted to play as a Goalie. I think I could even be a good goalie, but I just can't get passed diving for high balls. I can dive for low balls by throwing myself to the ground, but not to high ones.

Do you guys have any tips about getting passed this?

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Any tips?

I just can't get over it. I always have a hard time trying to dive.

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I narodu Bosanskome!

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post #7 of 38 (permalink) Old August 11th, 2008, 01:25 Thread Starter
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Thats really funny. I actually lost some weight, and am just guessing on my current weight. I shaped up, I can run an entire game, and I lost a lot of fat.

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I'm on the right.

Is there any way to get over it? A certain way to plant my body before i dive, and how to fall?

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Don't be a goalkeeper, it's the most boring position in football and I don't consider goalies to be footballers anyway, they're just goalies.. Midfield's the way to go, it's very demanding but it's the funnest position by far.
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I never liked playing mid or striker, the only position that I got any fun out of was Left back, as a defender. Now I want to be a goalie, I think it's the ideal position for me.

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I never liked playing mid or striker, the only position that I got any fun out of was Left back, as a defender. Now I want to be a goalie, I think it's the ideal position for me.
Just admit it, your technique sucks.
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Do you guys have any tips about getting passed this?
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Just admit it, your technique sucks.
Yes it does. I play like most big guys, strength, and size. In one on ones, or when its the duel side by side, I usually use my shoulders to overpower the guy.

I just want to be a goalie, it was always my dream, and I wouldn't care if I was 3rd choice keeper, I just want to be a goalie.

My reflexes are OK, speed is alright, I have endurance, I'm not afraid of getting hurt. I just can't get passed the whole diving scenario. Tomorrow I am practicing with some friends, one is a great goalie, hopefully I learn some things.

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I narodu Bosanskome!

Njegov ponos na mom srcu
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Ponos koji nigdje ne da,
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190 pounds is only about 85 kg, not 95.
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Xtratime on the pitch forums is the correct place.

To answer your question. I'm about 1m70. Weigh 60 kg. Actually quite the opposite, I'm lightweight and skinny. I'm 27, been playing 'keeper since I was 12. (except one group I play with here, they have no idea I play GK, because I like to play right-back defense every week )

You need to be very agile. Keep your eyes open. Focus on who has the ball, what he's gonna do with it, and the defenders around you. Calculate your next actions carefully but quickly, and always keep your balance. Follow all of these rules, so that you can safely anticipate your opponent's shot, cross, or pass and whether it's your job to intercept it or not. It's OK to make a few mistakes as a beginner, which you might do. The important thing is to learn from it, and if/when the same situation arises 1 minute later, you know how to deal with it.

Do alot of stretching. Go jogging. Do push ups and sit ups. Go swimming. Alot of swimming. Finally, skip-rope, or do some kind of jumping excercise. Actually play Basketball with some pro's, you use your hands alot, especially in ball-drop anticipation when going for a rebound.

Hope this helps...

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Never played keeper but that looks like sound advice, Rhiz.

I've played basketball at a high level and I'm certain that the quick reflexes you should develop from that (should become second nature if you've played enough) will definitely pay off.
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Xtratime on the pitch forums is the correct place.

To answer your question. I'm about 1m70. Weigh 60 kg. Actually quite the opposite, I'm lightweight and skinny. I'm 27, been playing 'keeper since I was 12. (except one group I play with here, they have no idea I play GK, because I like to play right-back defense every week )

You need to be very agile. Keep your eyes open. Focus on who has the ball, what he's gonna do with it, and the defenders around you. Calculate your next actions carefully but quickly, and always keep your balance. Follow all of these rules, so that you can safely anticipate your opponent's shot, cross, or pass and whether it's your job to intercept it or not. It's OK to make a few mistakes as a beginner, which you might do. The important thing is to learn from it, and if/when the same situation arises 1 minute later, you know how to deal with it.

Do alot of stretching. Go jogging. Do push ups and sit ups. Go swimming. Alot of swimming. Finally, skip-rope, or do some kind of jumping excercise. Actually play Basketball with some pro's, you use your hands alot, especially in ball-drop anticipation when going for a rebound.

Hope this helps...
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I will do that, today I am practicing with some friends, one is our starting goalie, and he will definitely play for a big team one day. I hope I can learn something today. I just can't get over diving...I seriously don't know how to fall.

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Vjeran svetom domu svome,
Vjeran slavi svojih djeda
I narodu Bosanskome!

Njegov ponos na mom srcu
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Yeah Basketball is good to improve technique for catching-anticipation.

Other good practices can be standing 1.5 or 2 meters away from a wall (wear the GK gloves if you want) and throw the ball against it like you would a for a proper throw in; then catch it. Do this sequence in a continuous and speedy rhythm. Try moving side-to-side.

By the way, I'm not a pro, didn't make college varsity (the other GK's were way taller...!)

You want to be like a pro? When Lazio came here 2 years ago I didn't pay attention to anything or anyone except for Peruzzi. Watched him like a hawk! Peruzzi did a nice pre-match warm up 30 minutes before kick off consisting of sit-up and ball catching. When he sits up, the coach throws a ball to his chest, which Peruzzi threw back at the coach as he goes down.

Then there was the quick shot left/quick shot right sequence. Requires several footballs, which the coach would alternatively kick on either side, on the ground.

He also practiced some crosses, and high shots which required him to jump.






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its all about anticpation.
You are afterall the last line of defense. As far as handling, punching, or reflexes, that mainly comes with experience and practice.
Reading the game and covering your angles is something that you have to be very coordinated.

See how many steps you are from one post to the other, as time passes you will know where the goal is without counting.
See how many steps you are from the penalty spot, and the endline of the goal area.

Remember that if you go a little forward, you cover more angle for shots but you loose more ground.

Look at it this way. If you draw a half circle from one post to the other. You can do that in x amount of steps. If you enlarge this circle to the point that its from the right of the goalies box to hte left, then you will need more leg work. You can cover an angle being more forward. But if there is a switch of play, you will be slower to switch, and nevermind dipping shots that although may be slower in comparison still are fast for you not to catch them.


As far as jumping goes. It is getting a feel for the ground. It looks tough, especially when Khan does them, but most of the time, you will be acting on instcnt which is also going to preapre you for the drop usually. You don't necessary need to much height like Khan, you can adda quick step and punch it out rather than hold it in your hands.

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