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post #1 of 31 (permalink) Old December 24th, 2004, 14:40 Thread Starter
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Should women be allowed to play on men's pro teams?

The issue has arisen again, this time in Mexico:

Female soccer star considers next move after FIFA rejects signing with team
December 20, 2004

MEXICO CITY (AP) - The Celaya soccer club will not appeal a ruling by FIFA rejecting its bid to hire national women's team star Maribel Dominguez.

The second-division team signed Dominguez to a two-year deal last week but soccer's governing body insisted Sunday that regulations require a clear separation between men and women players. "Mexico wanted to be a pioneer in this," Celaya vice-president Mauricio Ruiz said at a news conference Monday with Dominguez. "It wasn't achieved. Hopefully Maribel can develop her activities in another country."

Dominguez acknowledged that FIFA's decision stung, but said she would look for other opportunities, possibly in Europe, while continuing to play for the national team.

"Logically, yes it caused me some sadness, a little," said Dominguez, dressed in a Celaya cap and sweatsuit. "But at the same time too, yes, I respect decisions. If it's a 'no,' well it's a 'no.' This is not going to affect my career."

Dominguez will have a chance to face men on the field in an exhibition match on Dec. 26.

"They invited me above all to demonstrate I can play against men, and with men," she said.

News of FIFA's rejection became more than a sports controversy in Mexico.

"The maximum authority of world soccer acted against history," wrote political analyst Federico Arreola in the newspaper Milenio.

At least one woman has competed before in a men's soccer league: U.S. national team midfielder Kristine Lilly played for the Washington Warthogs in 1995 in the defunct Continental Indoor Soccer League.

Last year, the Italian club Perugia tried to recruit Swedish women's national team forwards Hanna Ljungberg and Victoria Svensson, and later German forward Birgit Prinz, but was rejected by FIFA.

At five-foot-four, Dominguez would have been outweighed by men in some cases by 65 pounds. She has been a prolific scorer on the national team with 45 goals in 46 games.

Dominguez lobbied on Monday for the creation of a professional women's league in Mexico, proposed by Chivas of Guadalajara owner Jorge Vergara.

"The possibilities are very good in all respects, including clubs interested in entering," Vergara said in a telephone interview.

The league would need a minimum of eight teams to work economically, said Vergara, who also owns the new U.S. Major League Soccer team Chivas USA, based in California.

Mexico's constitution states that men and women are equal before the law, and female Mexican athletes have overshadowed their male counterparts on the world stage in recent years. Cyclist Belem Guerrero and sprinter Ana Guevara were the public favourites of the summer Olympics in Athens, and brought home silver medals.

Golfer Lorena Ochoa, 22, also had a breakout season on the LPGA Tour.

But not all women in sports are welcomed. Female referee Virginia Tovar worked several games in the top men's soccer division earlier this year, and was demoted. Most welcomed Tovar, although she experienced some backlash.
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yes.
i would like to see that. wonder if the guys would be gentlemen and don't tackle her

I strictly have nothing to say but I want that comes out.
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if woman can play in the men's league, then men should be able to play in the woman's league

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Yes. And it'll be interesting to see guys sliding into her from behind
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Yes. And it'll be interesting to see guys sliding into her from behind
I take it you would prefer to keep the "sliding into each other from behind" on a men-only basis?
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if woman can play in the men's league, then men should be able to play in the woman's league
good one!

I dont think so.... there are so many physical differences.....

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I say if a woman can hack it, then sure! The thing is, you're never going to see it at a high level, so why worry?

It's like someone from the Special Olympics somehow being good enough to compete in the real Olympics? Does this mean that non-challenged people should be able to compete against solely mentally retarded athletes? Nope.

It's different for a player to go up a level than for a player to go down.
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No!The level beetween Women football and Men Football is so big so it is nothing to discuss really.. .no hard feelings
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I take it you would prefer to keep the "sliding into each other from behind" on a men-only basis?
If most men go down with a loud ARGHH after being slid in from behind, how will a woman react when given the same treatment?

Will the answer be revealed if the "sliding into each other from behind" is restricted strictly on a men-only basis?
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No, no, NEVER! They will be constantly complaining of molest when a man tackles them.

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Yes. And it'll be interesting to see guys sliding into her from behind
not to mention the fair and equal use of the changrooms

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good one!

I dont think so.... there are so many physical differences.....
Well, there's also a big physical difference between Saviola and Bogarde, so that's not the main problem.

I'd ask... and why not? If they can do well, why not? We all know that a woman has normally a weaker physical condition compared with a man, so I think that Maribel Dominguez would suffer in a men football team and she would fail, but this is the problem of her club and her own problem. I mean, if knowing these disadvantages, she wants to go on and her club accepts it, why not?

Let's take it to another sport. For example, in tennis, imagine that the #1 women on Earth wants to play the ATP men tournaments... okay, let her do it. She probably would fail and she wouldn't advance any round in any major tournament... but this is her choice.

I think that Maribel's decision is wrong, but if she wants to do it and there's a club willing to hire her, I don't know why FIFA has to say anything against it.
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No, no, NEVER! They will be constantly complaining of molest when a man tackles them.
No offence but on a pro level that's pretty ridiculous.

I say if they're good enough then why not?

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I don't think any pro woman soccer player could compete in pro mens soccer. Just not good enough.
I see a game on tv and it looks like its in slow motion. It compares to watching a bunch of little kids kicking the ball around at a local park.
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Look,it can never happened she has to be superb on everything,because just think of this if she gets tackled by somebody like Campbell or Jap Stam ahahahah....what do you think will happen to her?

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Look,it can never happened she has to be superb on everything,because just think of this if she gets tackled by somebody like Campbell or Jap Stam ahahahah....what do you think will happen to her?

she would atleast get a free kick. And then she would slap them.

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Yeah but her team players would take the free-kick coze she would probably be lying in the hospital with her leg broken

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