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post #461 of 539 (permalink) Old April 3rd, 2019, 23:19
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Kean is a formidable player and can become a star of the Italian NT. Hopefully he won't walk the Balotelli's way, that means moaning about racism (among the other things). The Italian people like him, he should try not to waste the magic.
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That's a completely wrong way of putting it. Are you kidding?

Everybody absolutely has the right and, as public person, almost the obligation to make a big deal about racism if they are insulted by a mob because of their race.

And I don't think "moaning about racism" was even remotely Balotelli's main issue.

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Kean is a formidable player and can become a star of the Italian NT. Hopefully he won't walk the Balotelli's way, that means moaning about racism (among the other things). The Italian people like him, he should try not to waste the magic.
No wonder nothing ever changes when fingers are first pointed at the guy facing monkey chants, for daring to "moan" about racism (lol what a major character flaw eh), funny way putting it to since all Kean did was just stand infront them and latter tweet say no to racism. Litterally all it was. His crime was playing infront of racists, the nerve of him.


The actual racists are never the issue in Italy, just read your papers past day, majority of them are indirectly putting the responsibility on Kean. No wonder Bonucci said what he did, and you just made this post. You basically echoing the same sentiment of Giulini Cagliaris clown president.


It doesnt matter that little Cagliari is just one of many offenders in this regard in the league, in just few years they racially abused Muntari to the point of wanting to walk off the pitch (and shocker Italian authorities reprimanded him and Italian media blamed him), Matuidi last year and this year Kean. And this is just incidents I noticed.


But nooooo, the issue is the guy facing racial abuse, and he should be careful so he doesn't lose rest of Italy's loving magical favour, for not just accepting the abuse like a good little boy.

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Business as usual in Italy, shocker, Cagliari avoid any form of ban or sanction.


Lets have gold fish memories and act super surprised when they soon do this again. And more importantly try to blame it on the guy facing monkey chants for not quietly accepting it.

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Hopefully he won't walk the Balotelli's way, that means moaning about racism

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It's not as if the centipede would have a functioning digestive system.

I could glue a couple of pieces of cardboard as wings onto my car, but I wouldn't call it a functioning flying car even if it would be able to "fly" 50 meters if I drove it at full speed off a cliff.
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I would not call it racism - which is a much abused word anyway and used far too casually - but pure barracking, like fans do to all players to try to put them off their game.

It is really getting tiresome when the great and the good are outraged by something which is, ultimately, harmless.

If no one commented about it, then the fans' behaviour would be regarded for what it is: barraking.
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I see comprehension issues. I'm not saying that Kean did something wrong, I just hope that he doesn't make a Balotelli, who see racism everywhere, even where there is no racism and has chosen to challenge all the Italian fans, with the result that most of them can't stand him any more.

Kean should enjoy the moment, instead of fighting few people who would insult anyone for any reason, not just for the color of the skin.
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Good question.

Don't know the answer, but I would guess the US and UK, for example, are just several decades ahead of Spain, Italy and obviously most (if not all) EE countries when it comes to integration, education


Just because EPL/Us has more strict laws, regarding in stadium behaviour doesnt mean british society or football fans are less racist for gods sake.

And really racism should not be the main talking point here, but bullying, as i dont think incoherent sounds are actually good way to convey your views on race.
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I would not call it racism - which is a much abused word anyway and used far too casually - but pure barracking, like fans do to all players to try to put them off their game.

It is really getting tiresome when the great and the good are outraged by something which is, ultimately, harmless.

If no one commented about it, then the fans' behaviour would be regarded for what it is: barraking.
So baically heckling where you suggest someone is subhuman on the basis of their race.

There is a category difference between insulting someone's mother and suggesting they are a monkey because their skin is brown.

Wake the f**k up.

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Good question.

Don't know the answer, but I would guess the US and UK, for example, are just several decades ahead of Spain, Italy and obviously most (if not all) EE countries when it comes to integration, education


Just because EPL/Us has more strict laws, regarding in stadium behaviour doesnt mean british society or football fans are less racist for gods sake.

And really racism should not be the main talking point here, but bullying, as i dont think incoherent sounds are actually good way to convey your views on race.
Are you some Trump loving retard? I guess the EE comment set you off....

Anyway, I'm not Italy-bashing or EE-bashing. I actually have great respect for Italian and certainly Slavic cutlures, especially Russian. I am merely stating a fact of sociological science, i,e, that people who are less exposed to outside ethnicities are more racist towards them

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Just because EPL/Us has more strict laws, regarding in stadium behaviour doesnt mean british society or football fans are less racist for gods sake.
No, obviously not, and I have already stated that they are also instrinsically racist societies. There is also a lot to be said for the theory that PC culture allows latently racist people to cover up their prejudice with SJW offence slogans. I think there is a lot of truth to that, in fact.

But it is also sociological fact that countries that are more ethnically homogenous are more racist. East-West Germany is a perfect test case.

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And really racism should not be the main talking point here, but bullying, as i dont think incoherent sounds are actually good way to convey your views on race.
Monkey chants are a pretty good way of telling someone you consider them subhuman

Yes race/ ethnicity should be the issue. This also applies to non-black racism BTW. There is a category difference between calling someone a lesser being because of their ethnicity and taunting them about their mother/sister/whatever standard BS footballers come out with

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I could glue a couple of pieces of cardboard as wings onto my car, but I wouldn't call it a functioning flying car even if it would be able to "fly" 50 meters if I drove it at full speed off a cliff.

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I just hope that he doesn't make a Balotelli, who see racism everywhere, even where there is no racism and has chosen to challenge all the Italian fans, with the result that most of them can't stand him any more.
Ok

But I wouldn't underestimate the amount of BS he has had to put up with over the years

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Are you some Trump loving retard? I guess the EE comment set you off....


No, obviously not, and I have already stated that they are also instrinsically racist societies. There is also a lot to be said for the theory that PC culture allows latently racist people to cover up their prejudice with SJW offence slogans. I think there is a lot of truth to that, in fact.

But it is also sociological fact that countries that are more ethnically homogenous are more racist. East-West Germany is a perfect test case.
Wtf, i love Trump because i decided to remind you what kind of buffoon the oh so tolerant and educated american society decide to elect for president?! And yep the less homogenous a society is the less prone to racism it should be in theory, but there are plenty of other factors too.

But more importantly i dont get how insulting someone mother is more acceptable than insulting someone skin. I fail to see the reasoning behind that. The main problem is accepting personal insults as a part of the football culture.
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Are you some Trump loving retard? I guess the EE comment set you off....


No, obviously not, and I have already stated that they are also instrinsically racist societies. There is also a lot to be said for the theory that PC culture allows latently racist people to cover up their prejudice with SJW offence slogans. I think there is a lot of truth to that, in fact.

But it is also sociological fact that countries that are more ethnically homogenous are more racist. East-West Germany is a perfect test case.
Wtf, i love Trump because i decided to remind you what kind of buffoon the oh so tolerant and educated american society decide to elect for president?!
Well, you could have added a bit of context....

I'll address the mother/monkey point another time

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I see comprehension issues. I'm not saying that Kean did something wrong, I just hope that he doesn't make a Balotelli, who see racism everywhere, even where there is no racism and has chosen to challenge all the Italian fans, with the result that most of them can't stand him any more.

Kean should enjoy the moment, instead of fighting few people who would insult anyone for any reason, not just for the color of the skin.
I agree that Bonucci is an idiot for saying what he said. But honestly, I do not see why and how he is being labeled as a racist.

In 2019 this PC culture loves and thrives on accusing people and opening the floodgates.

Seriously calm the f*ck down.

Yes I am fully aware of the racism epidemic, and I am not black so I do n't know what it's like to be racially abused. THis is far from the point, I am arguing about Bonucci's words:

I am angry coz he did not stand up for his teammate. Not because he "allegedly" made a racist comment.

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The "race" for CL spots is even more comical than last year. I am so glad that I decided to boycott these Lazio clowns.

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The "race" for CL spots is even more comical than last year. I am so glad that I decided to boycott these Lazio clowns.
Good weekend for Roma at least
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The "race" for CL spots is even more comical than last year. I am so glad that I decided to boycott these Lazio clowns.
Yes.

Lazio, Roma, Milan and Inter are all just comically bad at the moment.
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Bye bye Chievo. I can't say I wish you to come back to serie A soon!
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Ronaldo7.net has always been pretty good over the years. There is always some advertisement that will need to be closed down but it's usually pretty reliable.
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