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DFB Pokal Knock Out Stage [VFB Stuttgart vs Borussia Dortmund ]

Kick Off | 19:30
Date | Tueasday 09/02/16
Venue | Mercedes-Benz Arena
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Stuttgart is in great form but obviously still Dortmund is the favourite to progress. I can see a game with goals on both sides.

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In one interview Kevin Grosskreutz said he can't wait to play us, so he's fired up to play against his former team. Last time we met in November we gave the a 4-1 humiliation so now we'll have to do the same...

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hmmm , 2-2 . thats my prediction

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Fantastic. And I guess rematch.

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Lol 1-2 at the moment

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Great game to watch imo.

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Btw, did anyone else catch the Dortmund fans throwing tennis balls on the pitch to protest against the high ticket prices for this game? I believe the prices were around 40 Euros, it is pretty big for a Pokal game but it still doesn't beat the 77 Pounds of Liverpool.
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Actually the price was 20€ cheapest I think and the Dortmund fans once again showed little class interrupting the game for a few minutes. But that's how it is, didn't mention it on purpose.

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Actually the price was 20€ cheapest I think and the Dortmund fans once again showed little class interrupting the game for a few minutes. But that's how it is, didn't mention it on purpose.
Once again? When was the last time they caused trouble at a game? You're making it seems as if there are incidents like that on a daily basis.
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Truly a great game to watch, it made me forget about the draw against Berlin, PEA was amazing with his 2 assists and a goal, I wonder how is Kevin Grosskreutz feeling now...

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A section of Borussia Dortmund fans intentionally
missed the first 20 minutes of their DFB-Pokal clash
with Stuttgart on Tuesday evening in protest against
ticket prices.
The supporters staged the boycott after 25 per cent of
tickets allocated to Dortmund for the quarter-final clash
at the Mercedes-Benz Arena were priced at €70 (£54),
while the cheapest seats available cost €38.50 (£30).
Fans wanting standing tickets, meanwhile, had to pay
€19.50 (£15) - a figure some way down on the £77
(€98) Liverpool fans protested against at the weekend.
Before the game a banner was placed in the section
boycotted by fans, reading 'fussball muss
bezahlbarsein', which translates as 'football must be
affordable'.
Shortly after ending the boycott Dortmund fans threw
tennis balls on to the pitch, forcing the referee to briefly
stop proceedings while players cleared them off the
field, with Mats Hummels pleading for the supporters to
stop.

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Once again? When was the last time they caused trouble at a game? You're making it seems as if there are incidents like that on a daily basis.
Not daily, but almost monthly lately. Mostly pyrotechnique and stuff.

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missed the match due to carnival but great to see us progress against the VFB. somehow i can understand the fans as well as it is the only stage to gather some attention but of course it should not end in week in and out protests. Teams and the league should not loose their connection to the fans which i think is still something special in germany.

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Not daily, but almost monthly lately. Mostly pyrotechnique and stuff.
I'd love to see actual proof of that. Not that I don't believe you but I didn't see from myself that Borussia fans were causing trouble in games on a monthly basis as of late.
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Let me just quote an article I found today (after I posted my comment, so I did remember it correctly):

Klar ist: Die BVB-Anhänger gelten als Wiederholungstäter. Zuletzt musste der Ruhrpottklub für sechs Ausschreitungen (u.a. Pyro im Pokalfinale gegen Wolfsburg) 90000 Euro Geldstrafe zahlen. Teil der Strafe war zudem ein Verbot aller großen Fahnen sowie sämtlicher Block-, Zaunfahnen und Transparente bei allen Liga- und Pokal-Auswärtsspielen bis Ende 2015, da sich die Fans vor ihren Pyroattacken hinter den Bannern versteckten.

That means roughly this: The BVB fans are repeat offenders. Not long ago the club had to pay 90000€ for six different violations of the fans (for example the cup final against Wolfsburg). Apart from that further punishment was the banning of all big flags as well as all fence flags and banners for all cup and league away matches until the end of 2015 because the offenders used to hide behind them.

That article is talking about the incident yesterday and about the punishment the club will receive. So six violations in roughly 6 months (May-December) is what I would call a monthly basis. It's also what I remember (mainly the pyro stuff, just like I mentioned already before).

The Dortmund fans are far from the only ones known for causing troubles (I remember a few months ago I wrote on XT about how I see more and more of that stuff happening in Germany and how it worries me), but they are among the most notorious. Which is why I remembered it easily.

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Here is a pretty summed up article regarding our approach on yesterday's game............................
When supporters of Borussia Dortmund learnt of head
coach Thomas Tuchel's lineup for the DFB-Pokal
quarter-final clash at VfB Stuttgart on Tuesday evening,
many of them will have hesitated.
The XI included only two changes from the goalless
draw at Hertha BSC at the weekend, but those changes
looked peculiar.
Matthias Ginter replaced Julian Weigl in defensive
midfield, which wasn't so crazy considering the latter's
performances in recent weeks.
Tuchel told German broadcaster Sky before the game
that he preferred Ginter's freshness and athleticism for
a game that he envisioned to be physical.
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Erik Durm got the better of former team-mate
Kevin Grosskreutz all evening long.
The more interesting change concerned Erik Durm as a
left-winger. The 2014 FIFA World Cup winner made his
first start at a position other than full-back for the Black
and Yellows since his promotion to the first team in
2013.
Tuchel told Sky that Dortmund would need to change
the way they play based on Stuttgart's style, but it
wasn't immediately clear what he meant.
That changed quickly after kick-off, however. Not only
did he make the two personnel changes, he also
changed his team's setup in a number of spots.
Full-backs Lukasz Piszczek and Marcel Schmelzer
positioned themselves much deeper on the pitch than
usual, likely to be as added protection against the
hosts' strong counter-attacking. The wingers provided
width, which explains why Durm was a good fit for his
coach's plan.
On the other side from the 23-year-old was Pierre-
Emerick Aubameyang, whose speed tied up Stuttgart's
left-back Emiliano Insua. That left Filip Kostic isolated
on the left wing, where Piszczek had him largely under
control for most parts of the game. Marco Reus played
as the central striker in Aubameyang's place and
eluded his markers to great effect time and time again.
Most importantly, however, Tuchel's tactical surprise
freed up Henrikh Mkhitaryan and Ilkay Gundogan to
roam in the half-spaces of midfield. Henrikh
Mkhitaryan and Ilkay Gundogan.
The former initiated the opener with a pass to
Aubameyang, whose ball across the face of goal
somewhat luckily bounced to Reus. A smart finish high
into the net gave Dortmund the lead after just five
minutes, which obviously played into the visitors' game
plan.
Gundogan, on the other hand, might not have been
involved in either of the three goals, but he still bossed
the match and was a class above everyone else.
ESPN FC's Stefan Buczko, who rated Gundogan's
performance at 9/10, wrote: "It was nearly impossible
to steal the ball off him; even up against two or three
Stuttgart players Gundogan found a way to flee the
scene untouched."
The Swabians never got a hold of him, which was a
huge help for Dortmund after their performances in the
last two Bundesliga games against FC Ingolstadt and
Hertha, where effective man-to-man marking stifled
the Black and Yellows.
Tuchel's plan not only worked offensively, but also
when Stuttgart had the ball. The hosts, who came into
the game as the in-form team of the Bundesliga,
having won their last five in a row, didn't create many
clear-cut goalscoring opportunities.
The attempts that did find the target came almost
exclusively from set pieces, among them an equaliser,
where the Black and Yellows failed to clear the ball
away a number of times before Mkhitaryan deflected a
Lukas Rupp shot into his own net.
Tuchel hailed his team's performance after the game,
per the club's official website, saying that "under the
difficult conditions and given the situation we were
facing, we put in an almost perfect performance—with a perfect result.
It was a classic cup battle that Dortmund
deservedly won.
Going forward, it remains to be seen whether this is the
Plan B we called for after the Hertha game. It seems
more likely that this was a one-time event for the
specific opponent on Tuesday.
Stuttgart were on a roll coming into the game and are a
dangerous counter-attacking team, so widening the
play and conceding possession to the hosts in the
second half, when the hosts had up to 70 per cent
possession, per German TV channel Sky Sport News on
Twitter (link in German), worked very well.
That same plan won't fit many other opponents the
Black and Yellows will face in the coming weeks,
however.
Still, it was a great sign that Tuchel's surprising tweaks
worked out so brilliantly. After all, it kept the supporters'
dreams of a third consecutive trip to the cup final in
Berlin alive....Bleacherreport

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Let me just quote an article I found today (after I posted my comment, so I did remember it correctly):

Klar ist: Die BVB-Anhänger gelten als Wiederholungstäter. Zuletzt musste der Ruhrpottklub für sechs Ausschreitungen (u.a. Pyro im Pokalfinale gegen Wolfsburg) 90000 Euro Geldstrafe zahlen. Teil der Strafe war zudem ein Verbot aller großen Fahnen sowie sämtlicher Block-, Zaunfahnen und Transparente bei allen Liga- und Pokal-Auswärtsspielen bis Ende 2015, da sich die Fans vor ihren Pyroattacken hinter den Bannern versteckten.

That means roughly this: The BVB fans are repeat offenders. Not long ago the club had to pay 90000€ for six different violations of the fans (for example the cup final against Wolfsburg). Apart from that further punishment was the banning of all big flags as well as all fence flags and banners for all cup and league away matches until the end of 2015 because the offenders used to hide behind them.

That article is talking about the incident yesterday and about the punishment the club will receive. So six violations in roughly 6 months (May-December) is what I would call a monthly basis. It's also what I remember (mainly the pyro stuff, just like I mentioned already before).

The Dortmund fans are far from the only ones known for causing troubles (I remember a few months ago I wrote on XT about how I see more and more of that stuff happening in Germany and how it worries me), but they are among the most notorious. Which is why I remembered it easily.
We're talking about two violations, the two Pokal games against Wolfsburg (8 months ago) and Stuttgart (yesterday). What are the other four violations? Dortmund fans didn't cause one problem per month in the last 4 months for you to be able to talk about troubles on a monthly basis.
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We're talking about two violations, the two Pokal games against Wolfsburg (8 months ago) and Stuttgart (yesterday). What are the other four violations? Dortmund fans didn't cause one problem per month in the last 4 months for you to be able to talk about troubles on a monthly basis.
I translated the article for you and you still don't read the word six? Anyway, I told you before and I will tell you now, I remember, so if you don't want to believe fine, but facts are facts.

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