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post #1 of 23 (permalink) Old September 23rd, 2011, 17:17 Thread Starter
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Roberto Firmino



Been following this kid for a while now, but with how he's playing right now he has to have his own thread here.

He's a 19 year old Brazilian(what'd u think?) attacking midfielder playing in Hoffenhiem, and was bought straight from the Seria B in Brazil for around 4 milion euros last January as an 18 year old.
His progress so far has been incredible - from not even being in the squad at first, to slowly being on the bench but not playing, then getting a few min as a sub here and there, and near the end of the season becoming a starter scoring 3 goals in the last 5 games of last season, all in less then 6 months.

He was called for the U-20 Brazilian team that won the WC, but Hoffenhiem did not allow him to go as they counted on him for this season, and so far it seems like they were spot on - Since the start of the season in 5 starts(out of 6 games) Firmino scored 4 goals and had 1 assist, being Hoffenheim's best and most influential player on the pitch, and one of the best players in the Bundesliga so far, young and old alike.

Anyways this kid is just so talented and versetile. His best position is again as the playmaker being that attacking midfielder behind a striker where he knows how to find himself space, how to use his body strength to shield the ball and get out of tight situations, recieve the ball with his back to goal, and just run a team - but due to his skills and ability he's very adaptable tactically and can play pretty much everywhere in the attacking or even central midfield or on the wings - and even in the striker position at times, especiely with the very fluid way Hoffenheim plays with lots of switching places and off the ball movement having him as more of a 2nd striker type.

Besides his "True number 10" ability as I like to call it, being super creative always looking to make that speciel play or pass to suprise the defence and just a joy to watch with the ball at his feet with his great close controll/technique, smart quick thinking, and also knowing how to controll the pace of the game slowing down or speeding up when needed - he also has a real knack for goals, and dare I say he is quite simply world class(I honestly don't think i'm exaggerating here) at making those off the ball runs forward behind the defence lines ala Cesc Fabregas from deeper positions making the defence look like fools as he enters the box all alone - and he's also very composed around the goal inside the box, and pretty deadly from 20-25 and even 30 meters if given space too.

What helps that goal scoring ability and makes him deadly is his shooting ability and technique, that especiely with his stronger right foot is just brilliant, and even though he seems pretty lazy and 'heavy' on the ball - his speed is very decisive. this kid is really really fast when he turns it on off the ball - possibly one of the fastest players in the Bundesliga at top speed imo.

Unlike most 'field general' type of players, besides controlling the game he also has an insane workrate and stamina and he covers so much ground helping pressure the defence on top of his offensive off the ball movement winning back the ball - for example in the game against Mainz he ran 12 KM, with 26 sprints during the game - and in his last Wolfsburg game he had 38(!) sprints during the game while running 12 KM again.. those numbers are simply insane, especiely for a 19 year old kid attacking midfielder.

He needs to get better at his distribution and accurasy in passing as he at times looses the ball too much - and also needs to be less selfish on the ball not falling inlove with his dribble (Although in Brazil in the games I saw he was much worst and made a drastic improovment so far) - but in general this kid is a complete package, and a guy that could really make it to the very top level in football, and one of Brazil's brightest promises imo.

Here's his first goal last week against Wolfsburg

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Stanko, you need to be employed as a scout for one of these top clubs in Italy.

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Firmino's off the ball movement is definitely top class. He isn't just someone who'll play well when he's got the ball at his feet, he's intelligent and does a lot of running without the ball and always full stop sprints. The only players I can think of who does as much off the ball runs is possibly Kevin Grokreutz or Martin Harnik.

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post #4 of 23 (permalink) Old September 24th, 2011, 20:42
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Very good and thorough description
of this very talented player,
especially his great close ball control
and intelligent team play passing and runs,
as mentioned he is not just an individually
skilled player but a great team player.
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Stuck in place last season or even regressed, which is understandable with the season Hoffenhiem had - but he really started the season with a bang this year!

Last game against Hamburg he was simply phenomenal - 2 goals and 3 assists being involved in pretty much everything in the game, on a brilliant 5-1 win over Hamburg.

With the beat-down in the cup game early in the year, the kid already has 4 goals and 7 assists in the 3 official games he played this year.

I think this year is his year to make that extra breakthrough cementing that this is his team, and that'll follow with a big money move elsewhere. Let's see how he continues.

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18 goals and 12 assists in 26 games this year so far.

A move to a big side is imminent in the summer.

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was looking to see how Volland was playing and saw those stats, the both have had good seasons
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He's better than some overrated random brazillian league youngsters
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You say that as if he didn't grow and played in the Brazilian league up until a while ago.

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Could be a replacement for Fred Globo was saying- but I didnt think he was a 9

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Got called up to the Selecao, and just scored a beautiful game winner against Austria.

His talents are being appreciated, finally. Don't think Hoffenheim could keep him for another season like they did this year, which was a total surprise to me anyways as to how they managed to do that.


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Very good player, has proven that in the last 2 years in Germany with Hoffenheim where he's had a sick goal/assist record. Rate him higher than Coutinho, in all honesty.

Fantastic goal today.

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Got called up to the Selecao, and just scored a beautiful game winner against Austria.

His talents are being appreciated, finally. Don't think Hoffenheim could keep him for another season like they did this year, which was a total surprise to me anyways as to how they managed to do that.

Yee big move in summer. Wouldnt be surprised if bayern get him.

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He should go to barca
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Got him as a breakout player for the Copa America..

Heavily linked with a Manchester United move in the summer, which would be a fine reward for his fine form and work over the last few years.

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i really like him.

will be regular for brazil now. which is good, has a good personality of brazilian players of old.... not the selfie generation
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He is good FW and the best choice (#9) for Brazil now ...

But he ain't any close to Careca, Bebeto, Adriano and far off from Romario Ronaldo in last few decades
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Yea but he's been doing great, he should start

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He is good FW and the best choice (#9) for Brazil now ...

But he ain't any close to Careca, Bebeto, Adriano and far off from Romario Ronaldo in last few decades
He can play up top but he isn't a #9 like any of those players you mentioned above. His main position is as an attacking midfielder.

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