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post #1 of 113 (permalink) Old March 14th, 2012, 04:46 Thread Starter
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The Managerial Thread: Cocu Re-Signs Until 2019!

Obviously all the talk of the past week has been surrounding the sacking of Fred "no tactics" Rutten after a string of bad results. It ends his almost 3 season run with the club where he failed to win one piece of silverware, get us in the UCL and spent 28m euros on players this season only to see us perform worse in the league than we did last season.

Guus Hiddink once said that Fred Rutten was the only man that could replace him after his departure at the end of the 2005/6 season. Oh how he was wrong.

Im sure Guus will be happy with the direction the club has gone in appointing the new interim coaching staff. Phillip Cocu will take over as head coach while Ernest Faber will be his assistant at least until the end of the season.


Phillip Cocu needs no introduction. A true legend and one of the best PSV and Dutch player of all time. Born and bred in Eindhoven he is as much of a symbol of the club as Guus Hiddink.

His playing career is known to all but what about his managerial skills? At 41 hes still a very young man to take over the reins at PSV and is also hugely inexperienced. Has been an assistant manager in Oranje since Bert took over in 2008. Also started coaching in PSV's youth teams in 2008 and got promoted to a full time assistant coach after Stevens sacking in 2009.


Ernest Faber, the second half of the dynamic duo. Spent 12 seasons as a PSV player instantly making him a cult hero.

Also at 40 years old is a very young up and coming manager but is vastly more experienced than Cocu and therefore the confusion as to why he isnt the head coach and Cocu his assistant. The only reason i can think of is that Phillip is more of a symbol of the club.

Started coaching in PSV's youth teams in 2005 after which he spent 2 seasons as an assistant coach at FC Eindhoven. He returned to PSV briefly in 2008-9 where he coach the A1 side but took off to FC Eindhoven once again in 2010 when he was offered the head coaching job there. In his two seasons he has taken the club from a relegation contender to a playoffs contender and most recently to 3rd spot in the Eerste Divisie until he signed a 2 year deal with PSV yesterday. Also van Marwijk's other assistant since 2010 when De Boer quit to take up the Ajax job.

With two up and coming coaches what lies next for PSV this season? 9 Eredivisie games, a cup semi final and a EL R016 second leg await. Surely a league title is out of reach but then again De Boer won it with Ajax last season in similar circumstances.

One thing is for sure, the fans of PSV have gotten their wish!

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post #2 of 113 (permalink) Old March 14th, 2012, 11:48
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First off all the league obviously isnt out of reach, three weeks ago everyone was touting PSV as league winners, last week Twente was dead favourite and now Ajax, Twente and AZ are considered favourites. This just goes to say that this Eredivisieseason has been a really strange one and there are still 9 games left. Every team will drop points, lets hope we drop the least. Perhaps an Ajaxlike scenario will unfold with us as the main characters.

As for the new interim coaching staff: Great
Both are PSV icons and legends and Im pretty sure most of the PSV fans wanted them to replace Fredje. Its to bad that Rutten got fired because IMO he is a great coach but he isnt cut out to be the main man at a club, he would be one of the best assistents though.
One thing that suprises me is that Cocu got the head coach job without any prior experience as a head coach while Faber at least has experience as a head coach. Unlike WB I dont think it has to do with who the bigger PSV symbol is but more with the job the guys allready have. Cocu has been the second man in Oranje since Bert took over while Faber arrived later on that scene. It makes sense that Cocu is higher in the pecking order in the Oranje coachingstaff so it should only be logical he would be the main man at PSV, wouldn't it?

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Thought Faber was the head coach
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Yeah me too but Cocu is officially the head coach.

I don't agree Krajo. I mean Faber was a head coach for 2 seasons while Cocu has never been one in his whole life and Ernest also has more experience as an assistant (apart from at Oranje)
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Chris van der Weerden, another PSV clubman has got promoted from B1 coach to second assistant behind Faber.

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Cocu looking rather clueless at the post match press conference

While Jans looked like he couldn't explained what happened



Cocu was quoted in De Snor saying that Advocaat would be the ideal candidate for the PSV job.

He would surely agree to take over the job full time if approached at the end of the season though.

Cocu: this seasons Frank de Boer

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Any news as to what will happen next year?

Havent heard anything as of late.. Will Advocaat come or not? Surely he is not the type of trainer we would look after with our new policy of using young players and developing them. Van Gaal would be a better option for developing youth but that automatically means MvB wouldnt be comming. Havent ssen much from Cocu so its to early to say what kind of job he is doing.

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No news as of late.

Only Raiola (MvB's agent) saying that Brands has all but confirmed LvG as the head coach for next season. We all know what a bunch of slimy pricks these agents are today though and i believe its all just to put pressure on the PSV board to choose van Bommel NOW and not in June.

If Cocu and Faber get 2nd spot and win the cup, why bring anyone in?
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It has been confirmed that Cocu will definitely take over A1 next season

Probably the most logical move as he is largely inexperienced but every PSV football purist wants to see him become the Guardiola aka be given a chance at the top job

No news regarding Faber but one would think he will stay as the assistant coach.

Advocaat remains the main candidate for the job but anything concrete must come after Euro 2012 in his case. No other rumours, since we offered MvB a contract, LvG won't be coming unless Mark turns us down.
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Advocaat is also linked to Dinamo Moscow
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Well it depends if he will continue to go for the money or not really.

He might stay with Russia post EC, nothing is concrete yet.
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I really hope Advocaat comes, i see no other option.
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No one does atm.

Ron Jans would be a guy definitely willing to take the job and he has vast Eredivisie experience. He would be the easiest decent target i can think of.

Dick the undisputed #1 for the time being though.
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I dont know about Dick not really a fan of his Russian performances. He always seems to go for the older settled players and hardly depends on youngsters, he also hardly improves them.

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According to Russian media PSV have offered a two year deal to General Dick.
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Hope he comes, there are not many options left.
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We will officially hear Advocaat's decision on the post next week.
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Russian rumours are that Advocaat will make his decision to go to PSV public on Monday.
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I thought he would only tell that he would leave the Russian National Team, and that there are rumours that PSV has most chance to get him.

It's confirmed now, the way for PSV is free.

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Yep, Advocaat confirmed he will not extend his contract with Russia post EC 2012.

No comment yet made on a possible move to PSV but i guess negotiations have to take place first.
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