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post #1 of 150 (permalink) Old July 27th, 2011, 12:18 Thread Starter
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Dutch prediction league 2011/2012

In about 10 days the Eredivisie will start again. Time to open a new PL I think, and some space to discuss about the format.

Last season this was the format concerning points awarded.
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Points awarded for correct result(winner): 3
Points awarded for correct scoreline: 3
Points awarded for each correct scorer: 0
Points awarded for correct time of first card shown: 0
Points awarded for correct time of first goal scored: 0
Points awarded for correct number of goals scored: 0
Points awarded for correct margin of victory: 2
As for the matches, there are nine Eredivisie matches each round, perhaps it would be nice to add one extra match, which can be a Jupiler League one or maybe a Topklasse one? Of course the most interesting one, which can be a derby, top match, match between relegation candidates, match for a period title etc. etc. Is that an idea?

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Of course anyone is welcome to participate!

As soon as Wally created one () and we all agree about the format, we can start, that will be either in the first or second Eredivisie round I think .
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post #2 of 150 (permalink) Old July 27th, 2011, 13:44
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Yeah, something like 2 or 3 Eerste Divisie games and 2 or 3 more interesting Topklasse games or maybe less depending what you want.

Can also include European fixtures again if you want.

Format is ok. The points I mean.


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Yeah, something like 2 or 3 Eerste Divisie games and 2 or 3 more interesting Topklasse games or maybe less depending what you want.

Can also include European fixtures again if you want.

Format is ok. The points I mean.
Don't really care as long as there's some stucture. For example every week the 9 Eredivisie games + 1, 2 or 3 games, no matter which ones, but every week the same amount of games. These can be from Jupiler League and / or Topklasse.

As for the European fixtures, for me it's ok, but perhaps it's difficult predicting midweek games as quite some participants will miss those. Maybe it's better to predict just the weekend games, so the participants know they should predict on Friday at least for example.

Remember last season the Friday games were difficult already .

Anyway let's see what everyone else thinks about it?
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Hall of fame:
2010/2011 - chivu (the Netherlands)
2009/2010 - Marinus (Wales)
2008/2009 - Runes Order (Belgium)
2007/2008 - Runes Order (Belgium)
2006/2007 - Pepinovic (Belgium)
2005/2006 - Wally (the Netherlands)
2004/2005 - tgv325 (Austria)
2003/2004 - Kluivert (the Netherlands)
Ahh, now that is sweet!

Personally I would like the points to go back to the way they were 2 seasons ago, a more simple layout - 3 points for an exact score, 2 points for a correct margin, 1 point for the correct outcome - or 3 points for exact score, 1 point for correct outcome - something like that.

I like the idea of extra games, perhaps the 9 Eredivisie and 1 Jupiler, 1 Zat Topklasse and 1 Zon Topklasse.
I don't mind European games, but as Knoert points out, it will be easy to miss them.
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post #6 of 150 (permalink) Old July 27th, 2011, 20:03
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I haven't played these things in years... Because I stink at them.

But somebody has to be at the bottom of the table, right?

Oh hell, I'm in
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Even I managed to finish somewhere near the top last season, you should easily win this

I don't care what kind of setup we pick, as long as we don't do any difficult stuff like extra points for "special matches". I always forget those
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Yeah I don't wanna have to guess any Welsh league games (Marinus, I'm looking at you), the equivalent of firing a torpedo at your own vessel
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The points system is ok by me.

I would like the CL and EL games of Dutch clubs to be included but this depends on the other members. Im more likely to forget a NEC-RKC game on a Friday than a European game personally.

I have one complaint and its about the "10th" game. I dont follow the Jupiler League or the Topklasse but if it makes it easier to have 10 games than i wouldnt mind but as long as the teams change every week (for example we only had Sparta games last season which i didnt like). I see some of you want 12 games but i wouldnt go over 10 personally.
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Same here, thats why i lost so many points
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Tomorrow I'm off on holiday for one week so I can't start the PL in the first round, it's ok to start with the second Eredivisie round?

Then I hope as well in one week we find an agreement about the points and matches too .
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Its ok by me, PSV play AZ in the first round so i wouldnt know who to tip anyway
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Yeah, I'm in again, but this time from Week 1, or whatever week we start on. I have to go to bed now so I hope that I can get my Excelsior-Feyenoord prediction in. I pick 1-2, with Feyenoord picking up their first 3 points in a title-winning season.
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Will I be able to defend my title?
Certainly, I'm back from holiday now so will pm Wally so he can create one then I can enter the fixtures etc.

My definite proposal:
Points (changed compared to last season, now predicting the more difficult stuff gets awarded better like Marinus' proposal)
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Points awarded for correct result(winner): 1
Points awarded for correct scoreline: 3
Points awarded for each correct scorer: 0
Points awarded for correct time of first card shown: 0
Points awarded for correct time of first goal scored: 0
Points awarded for correct number of goals scored: 0
Points awarded for correct margin of victory: 2
Matches
Each round: 9 Eredivisie matches and 1 Jupiler League OR Topklasse match. That means each round we'll predict a total of 10 matches.
European matches won't be included.
That means to non JL or Topklasse followers won't get hurt too much.

Fine for all of you?

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Yeah, I'm in again, but this time from Week 1, or whatever week we start on. I have to go to bed now so I hope that I can get my Excelsior-Feyenoord prediction in. I pick 1-2, with Feyenoord picking up their first 3 points in a title-winning season.
Don't worry we won't start this first round.
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The first matches are up, that means we'll start next Friday!

Round 1
12.08.11 at 19:00 - Willem II vs Go Ahead Eagles
13.08.11 at 18:45 - FC Twente vs AZ
13.08.11 at 19:45 - PSV vs RKC Waalwijk
13.08.11 at 19:45 - Vitesse vs VVV-Venlo
13.08.11 at 20:45 - Feyenoord vs Roda JC Kerkrade
14.08.11 at 12:30 - Heracles Almelo vs NAC Breda
14.08.11 at 14:30 - Ajax vs SC Heerenveen
14.08.11 at 14:30 - FC Utrecht vs De Graafschap
14.08.11 at 16:30 - FC Groningen vs ADO Den Haag
15.08.11 at 20:00 - NEC vs Excelsior

https://www.xtratime.org/forum/pl_sta...php?league=163

- The NEC game is placed on Monday, that's an exception, normally the Eredivisie weekend lasts from Friday to Sunday.

- There's a small problem, I can only enter 50 clubs. Eredivisie + JL + Topklasse means 68 clubs. Hopefully Wally can sort that out, if not possible I fear we've got to drop the Topklasse games. It won't be that many anyway, but it's nice to have some variation I think.
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The first matches are up, that means we'll start next Friday!

Round 1
12.08.11 at 19:00 - Willem II vs Go Ahead Eagles
13.08.11 at 18:45 - FC Twente vs AZ
13.08.11 at 19:45 - PSV vs RKC Waalwijk
13.08.11 at 19:45 - Vitesse vs VVV-Venlo
13.08.11 at 20:45 - Feyenoord vs Roda JC Kerkrade
14.08.11 at 12:30 - Heracles Almelo vs NAC Breda
14.08.11 at 14:30 - Ajax vs SC Heerenveen
14.08.11 at 14:30 - FC Utrecht vs De Graafschap
14.08.11 at 16:30 - FC Groningen vs ADO Den Haag
15.08.11 at 20:00 - NEC vs Excelsior

https://www.xtratime.org/forum/pl_sta...php?league=163

- The NEC game is placed on Monday, that's an exception, normally the Eredivisie weekend lasts from Friday to Sunday.

- There's a small problem, I can only enter 50 clubs. Eredivisie + JL + Topklasse means 68 clubs. Hopefully Wally can sort that out, if not possible I fear we've got to drop the Topklasse games. It won't be that many anyway, but it's nice to have some variation I think.
Knoert, just add the 'top six' in each Topklasse, we'll only pick the games involving the best sides surely?
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Knoert, just add the 'top six' in each Topklasse, we'll only pick the games involving the best sides surely?
Had been thinking about that as well, beside that sometimes a typical relegation cracker would've been nice too.
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