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post #1 of 35 (permalink) Old June 20th, 2011, 18:41 Thread Starter
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So KNVB announced today all new groups etc.

http://www.knvb.nl/nieuws/14794/comp...eizoen-2011-12

As for the Hoofdklasse.

Saturday A
Bennekom
DOVO (Veenendaal)
Huizen
Jodan Boys (Gouda)
ODIN'59 (Heemskerk)
Quick Boys (Katwijk)
SDC Putten
Sparta Nijkerk
Sportlust'46 (Woerden)
Ter Leede (Sassenheim)
Volendam
Voorschoten'97
Young Boys (Haarlem)
Zwaluwen'30 (Hoorn)

Very strong group this one, of course Quick Boys will be the big favourite once again, but as they couldn't do it last season they'll face a lot of competition again. Sparta Nijkerk is coming down from Topklasse while they got beaten by Young Boys in the playoffs this season.
DOVO are back and belong at least in Topklasse, biggest relegation candidate are Sportlust'46 who're going to play their first ever Hoofdklasse season.

Saturday B
Achilles Veen
ASWH (Hendrik-Ido-Ambacht)
Excelsior Maassluis
Heerjansdam
Hoek
Kloetinge
Kozakken Boys (Werkendam)
LRC (Leerdam)
Nieuw-Lekkerland
Nivo Sparta (Zaltbommel)
RVVH (Ridderkerk)
Scheveningen
Xerxes (Rotterdam)
Zwaluwen (Vlaardingen)

Achilles Veen and Nivo Sparta are new, Achilles returns after six seasons to Hoofdklasse and played several seasons at the (back then) highest amateur level. Nivo Sparta are going to their second Hoofdklasse season after they relegated immediately in 2007/2008.
For me the title candidates are ASWH, Hoek, Kozakken Boys and Scheveningen but it's hard to say.

Saturday C
ACV (Assen)
Berkum (Zwolle)
CSV Apeldoorn
DETO (Vrienzenveen)
Drachtster Boys
DVS'33 (Ermelo)
Flevo Boys (Emmeloord)
Nunspeet
ONS Sneek
Oranje Nassau (Groningen)
Staphorst
Urk
VVOG (Harderwijk)
WHC (Wezep)

WHC will once again fight for the title, main competitors I expect to be CSV Apeldoorn who definitely want to return to Topklasse.
Good to see Urk back just as VVOG, two traditional sides.

Sunday A
ADO'20 (Heemskerk)
AFC'34 (Alkmaar)
Alphense Boys (Alphen a/d Rijn)
Chabab (Amsterdam)
DHC (Delft)
Elinkwijk (Utrecht)
SC Feyenoord (Rotterdam)
Koninklijke HFC (Haarlem)
Leonidas (Rotterdam)
Nieuwenhoorn
Purmersteijn (Purmerend)
RKAVV (Leidschendam)
Westlandia (Naaldwijk)
de Zouaven (Grootebroek)

Hard to say what's going to happen here. No team relegated from Topklasse which means there will certainly enter a new team to Topklasse next season. Who's that going to be? The Moroccans from Chabab? Finally a traditional team like Elinkwijk or ADO'20?
Purmersteijn and RKAVV start with their first ever Hoofdklasse season just as the Koninklijke HFC, known from the traditional new years game versus the old international players.

Sunday B
Baronie (Breda)
Blauw-Geel (Veghel)
De Valk (Valkenswaard)
DESK (Kaatsheuvel)
Deurne
Dijkse Boys (Helmond)
Dongen
EHC (Hoensbroek)
Gemert
Groene Ster (Heerlerheide)
Nuenen
OJC Rosmalen
SV Meerssen
SV Venray

Three teams relegated directly from Topklasse last season, and all they came from area 'Zuid 2'. That means they're all put together into this Hoofdklasse, as two teams from C promoted last season, there was a problem, two teams had to leave B for C. In the end it were Juliana'31 and UDI. Especially in Uden they're angry now as the travel distances almost doubled and they loose two great derbies versus Gemert and Blauw-Geel and a few smaller derbies.
The biggest favourites? I don't know. I haven't got a clue what Dijkse Boys is going to do, direct relegation? Or fighting for the title? Gemert should be able to fight for the title with Baronie.
Groene Ster and Nuenen are new and both former Hoofdklasse teams, although Nuenen just for one season.

Sunday C
Alcides (Meppel)
Babberich
Be Quick 1887 (Groningen/Haren)
DIO (Groningen)
Hoogeveen
Juliana'31 (Malden)
Longa'30 (Lichtenvoorde)
MSC (Meppel)
NEC amateurs (Nijmegen)
Rigtersbleek (Enschede)
RKHVV (Huissen)
Rohda Raalte
Sneek Wit-Zwart
UDI'19 (Uden)

So they'll be angry in Uden, the journey's to Nijmegen, Babberich, Huissen and Malden are acceptable, but for the rest it's horrible for them.
Big favourte is Be Quick 1887, they were fighting for the title last season with WKE and HSC'21, as they both went up and no one returned from Topklasse they're the big favourite.
With Longa'30 there's finally a team from 'de Achterhoek' represented at Hoofdklasse level, I think it's the first one ever although not sure.

- - - - - - - - - -

I'm especially looking forward to several derbies I still haven't seen, think about Urk-Flevo Boys, Groene Ster-EHC, Kloetinge-Hoek and some more .

Anyone of you looking forward to this Hoofdklasse season?

If someone want to do a kind of Eerste Klasse and / or lower preview feel free to do so .
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So KNVB announced today all new groups etc.

http://www.knvb.nl/nieuws/14794/comp...eizoen-2011-12

As for the Hoofdklasse.

Saturday A
Bennekom
DOVO (Veenendaal)
Huizen
Jodan Boys (Gouda)
ODIN'59 (Heemskerk)
Quick Boys (Katwijk)
SDC Putten
Sparta Nijkerk
Sportlust'46 (Woerden)
Ter Leede (Sassenheim)
Volendam
Voorschoten'97
Young Boys (Haarlem)
Zwaluwen'30 (Hoorn)

Very strong group this one, of course Quick Boys will be the big favourite once again, but as they couldn't do it last season they'll face a lot of competition again. Sparta Nijkerk is coming down from Topklasse while they got beaten by Young Boys in the playoffs this season.
DOVO are back and belong at least in Topklasse, biggest relegation candidate are Sportlust'46 who're going to play their first ever Hoofdklasse season.
My numbers agree with you Knoert, now that WKE and HSC’21 aren’t in Zondag C this is the Hoofdklasse with the highest average ranking points.
But interestingly it’s also the Hoofdklasse with the biggest gap between the top team (Quick Boys) and the worst team (Voorschoten '97), so there could still be a few mismatches this season.

The rankings suggest that the big four in Zaterdag A will be Quick Boys, Young Boys, the relegated Sparta Nijkerk and DOVO (who beasted everyone else in 1A last season).
While the bottom four fighting relegation will be Voorschoten’97, Zwaluwen ’30 and the Ter Leede who ended last year in freefall – add in there Sportlust’46 (but Huizen’s three point penalty might save the team from Woerden).

rank / team / points
52 Quick Boys Katwijk 738.5
56 Young Boys Haarlem 736.1
67 Sparta Nijkerk (R) 720.4
83 DOVO Veenendaal (P) 708.9
85 ODIN '59 Heemskerk 708.6
97 Bennekom (P) 702.5
109 CVV de Jodan Boys Gouda 697.2
113 SDC Putten 693.5
121 RKAV Volendam (am) 691.2
127 SV Huizen 689.4
132 Sportlust '46 Woerden (P) 686.4
135 Zwaluwen 1930 Hoorn 684.6
147 Ter Leede Sassenheim 681.4
157 Voorschoten '97 Voorschoten 676.2

More number-crunching to follow...
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So KNVB announced today all new groups etc.

http://www.knvb.nl/nieuws/14794/comp...eizoen-2011-12

Saturday B
Achilles Veen
ASWH (Hendrik-Ido-Ambacht)
Excelsior Maassluis
Heerjansdam
Hoek
Kloetinge
Kozakken Boys (Werkendam)
LRC (Leerdam)
Nieuw-Lekkerland
Nivo Sparta (Zaltbommel)
RVVH (Ridderkerk)
Scheveningen
Xerxes (Rotterdam)
Zwaluwen (Vlaardingen)

Achilles Veen and Nivo Sparta are new, Achilles returns after six seasons to Hoofdklasse and played several seasons at the (back then) highest amateur level. Nivo Sparta are going to their second Hoofdklasse season after they relegated immediately in 2007/2008.
For me the title candidates are ASWH, Hoek, Kozakken Boys and Scheveningen but it's hard to say.
This is the weakest Zaterdag Hoofdklasse, but it should be among the most competitive, as only Zat C has a lesser spread of rankings.
As for the four teams I expect to fight it out for promotion, ASWH, a fast improving Excelsior M, the relegated Hoek and Scheveningen look good, but don’t count out Kozakken Boys who finished last term in good shape – and what about Xerxes who did so well but fell away so badly once they’d lost the title to GVVV last time around.
Promoted Nivo Sparta could struggle along with Nieuw Lekkerland, RVVH and Zwaluwen Vlaardingen who were all fortunate that there were three worse teams in this league last season.

Rank / team / points
77 ASWH Hendrik Ido Ambacht 712.8
82 Excelsior Maassluis 709.7
93 Hoek HSV (R) 704.7
95 SVV Scheveningen 703.4
99 Kozakken Boys Werkendam 700.7
108 Xerxes DZB Rotterdam 697.3
112 Achilles Veen (P) 693.7
129 LRC Leerdam 688.7
133 Kloetinge 685.4
136 VV Heerjansdam 684.4
137 Zwaluwen Vlaardingen 684.4
156 RVVH Ridderkerk 676.9
160 Nivo Sparta Zaltbommel (P) 673.7
161 Nieuw Lekkerland 673.1
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So KNVB announced today all new groups etc.

http://www.knvb.nl/nieuws/14794/comp...eizoen-2011-12

Saturday C
ACV (Assen)
Berkum (Zwolle)
CSV Apeldoorn
DETO (Vrienzenveen)
Drachtster Boys
DVS'33 (Ermelo)
Flevo Boys (Emmeloord)
Nunspeet
ONS Sneek
Oranje Nassau (Groningen)
Staphorst
Urk
VVOG (Harderwijk)
WHC (Wezep)

WHC will once again fight for the title, main competitors I expect to be CSV Apeldoorn who definitely want to return to Topklasse.
Good to see Urk back just as VVOG, two traditional sides.
This is going to be really tough to call next season, with a miniscule gap between top and bottom any one of these sides could in theory break from the pack and find themselves in the Topklasse in 2012/3.
I’m not fooled by Flevo Boys being so low in the rankings, they were competitive in the latter half of last season, but had left themselves too much to avoid relegation – they should challenge – along with WHC, ONS Sneek and promoted Urk. Also CSV will be up there after losing in the playoffs. Staphorst finished well last season, so might set the pace early on.
DVS’33 and Oranje Nassau might were in the relegation playoffs this summer and might be down there again, with DETO and Drachster Boys also looking shaky.
But as I said, this one is so tight that anything could happen!

rank / team / points
68 WHC Wezep 718.9
73 CSV Apeldoorn (R) 714.6
80 ONS Sneek 712.1
89 SV Urk (P) 707.3
100 VV Berkum Zwolle 700.5
102 Staphorst 699.4
104 ACV Assen 698.7
107 Flevo Boys Emmeloord (R) 697.3
116 VVOG Harderwijk (P) 693.0
119 Nunspeet 691.5
130 Drachtster Boys Drachten 688.1
131 DVS '33 Ermelo 687.0
138 Oranje Nassau Groningen 683.8
139 DETO Vriezenveen 683.8

Zondag to follow...
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Sunday A
ADO'20 (Heemskerk)
AFC'34 (Alkmaar)
Alphense Boys (Alphen a/d Rijn)
Chabab (Amsterdam)
DHC (Delft)
Elinkwijk (Utrecht)
SC Feyenoord (Rotterdam)
Koninklijke HFC (Haarlem)
Leonidas (Rotterdam)
Nieuwenhoorn
Purmersteijn (Purmerend)
RKAVV (Leidschendam)
Westlandia (Naaldwijk)
de Zouaven (Grootebroek)

Hard to say what's going to happen here. No team relegated from Topklasse which means there will certainly enter a new team to Topklasse next season. Who's that going to be? The Moroccans from Chabab? Finally a traditional team like Elinkwijk or ADO'20?
Purmersteijn and RKAVV start with their first ever Hoofdklasse season just as the Koninklijke HFC, known from the traditional new years game versus the old international players.
My second Dutch team Chabab choked right at the end of the season and didn’t make it through the playoffs but they should be good enough to be near the top again, Feyenoord Sport Club could be one to watch this season, along with promoted RKAVV – RKVV and ADO’20 might also mount a challenge too.
At the bottom Purmersteijn, Koninklijke HFC Nieuwenhoorn could all suffer, with AFC’34 and Leonides possibly getting sucked into a relegation battle too.

rank / teams / points
76 Feyenoord SC (am) 713.3
84 fc Chabab Amsterdam 708.8
98 RKVV Westlandia Naaldwijk 700.8
110 ADO 20 Heemskerk 696.8
114 RKAVV Leidschendam (P) 693.1
117 Alphense Boys Alphen aan de Rijn 692.2
123 USV Elinkwijk Utrecht 690.7
125 De Zouaven Grootebroek 690.3
140 DHC Delft 683.7
145 RKSV Leonidas Rotterdam 681.6
148 AFC '34 Alkmaar 681.2
154 Nieuwenhoorn Hellevoetsluis 678.1
170 Koninklijke HFC Haarlem (P) 670.2
181 Purmersteijn Purmerend 666.3

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Sunday B
Baronie (Breda)
Blauw-Geel (Veghel)
De Valk (Valkenswaard)
DESK (Kaatsheuvel)
Deurne
Dijkse Boys (Helmond)
Dongen
EHC (Hoensbroek)
Gemert
Groene Ster (Heerlerheide)
Nuenen
OJC Rosmalen
SV Meerssen
SV Venray

Three teams relegated directly from Topklasse last season, and all they came from area 'Zuid 2'. That means they're all put together into this Hoofdklasse, as two teams from C promoted last season, there was a problem, two teams had to leave B for C. In the end it were Juliana'31 and UDI. Especially in Uden they're angry now as the travel distances almost doubled and they loose two great derbies versus Gemert and Blauw-Geel and a few smaller derbies.
The biggest favourites? I don't know. I haven't got a clue what Dijkse Boys is going to do, direct relegation? Or fighting for the title? Gemert should be able to fight for the title with Baronie.
Groene Ster and Nuenen are new and both former Hoofdklasse teams, although Nuenen just for one season.
Do three sides relegated from the Topklasse make this the “Hoofdklasse of Death”?
Both Baronie and Gemert are probably better than their ranking suggests and both should start to add to their points by beating these easier teams. Venray and Blauw Geel could both challenge and Groene Star’s results in the Eerst Klasse last season mark them out as potential dark horses too.
Dijkse Boys lost plenty of ranking points after pulling out midway through last season, but they should have enough to steer clear of the bottom, so we’d have to tip promoted Nuenen, DESK, OJC and Meersen as teams that might struggle.

rank / teams / points
71 Venray SV 716.9
72 Blauw Geel '38-Otter-Westela Veghel 715.5
74 Gemert (R) 714.1
78 Groene Ster Heerlerheide (P) 712.3
87 Dongen 707.7
90 SV Deurne 707.1
101 Baronie Breda (R) 700.2
103 EHC Hoensbroek 698.9
111 De Valk Valkenswaard 694.3
115 SV Meersen 693.1
141 OJC Rosmalen 683.4
151 DESK Kaatsheuvel 679.9
155 RKSV Nuenen (P) 678.1
168 Dijkse Boys Helmond (R) 670.8

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Sunday C
Alcides (Meppel)
Babberich
Be Quick 1887 (Groningen/Haren)
DIO (Groningen)
Hoogeveen
Juliana'31 (Malden)
Longa'30 (Lichtenvoorde)
MSC (Meppel)
NEC amateurs (Nijmegen)
Rigtersbleek (Enschede)
RKHVV (Huissen)
Rohda Raalte
Sneek Wit-Zwart
UDI'19 (Uden)

So they'll be angry in Uden, the journey's to Nijmegen, Babberich, Huissen and Malden are acceptable, but for the rest it's horrible for them.
Big favourite is Be Quick 1887, they were fighting for the title last season with WKE and HSC'21, as they both went up and no one returned from Topklasse they're the big favourite.
With Longa'30 there's finally a team from 'de Achterhoek' represented at Hoofdklasse level, I think it's the first one ever although not sure.
Two of the best teams at this level managed to get promoted, so this has left Zondag C a little lighter on quality – but it’s still the second best Hoofdklasse, and it has the second largest gap from top to bottom.
Despite being in the relegation playoffs Sneek Wit Zwart were in great form at the end and should challenge, ROHDA and the Nijmegen amateurs should all do well, but it’s Be Quick 1887 that look big favourites here.
MSC-Antaris, Hoogeveen, RKHVV and newly promoted DIO might be struggling to stay up, but Rigtersbleek’s escape in the playoffs might help them to mid-table obscurity


rank / teams / points
60 Be Quick 1887 Haren 732.1
79 ROHDA Raalte 712.2
91 Sneek Wit Zwart 707.0
92 NEC Nijmegen II 706.6
94 UDI '19-Beter Bed Uden 704.4
96 Alcides Meppel 703.4
105 Juliana '31 Malden 698.6
118 LONGA '30 Lichtenvoorde (P) 691.7
120 RKSV Babberich 691.2
122 Rigtersbleek Enschede 690.9
124 RKHVV Huissen 690.7
126 DIO Groningen (P) 690.2
146 Hoogeveen 681.4
149 MSC-Antaris Meppel 680.8


EERSTE KLASSE tips for top and bottom to follow sometime soon…
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ZAT 1A
Lelystad could go straight up again, although their ranking might be artificially high after last season’s performances. Ajax amateurs, VVZ’49, Zuigvogels and Swift are also tipped.
Down at the bottom, DVVA, Marken, De Merino’s and SVL could struggle

169 Lelystad '67 (P) 670.3
176 Ajax Amsterdam (am) 667.8
179 VVZ '49 Soest 666.6
183 Zuidvogels Huizen 666.2
209 Swift Amsterdam (R) 658.8
234 HBOK Amsterdam 653.7
238 Roda '46 Leusden (zat) (P) 652.0
246 VVA '71 Rhenen 651.0
258 Eemdijk Bunschoten 648.6
264 CSW Wilnis 647.9
267 SVL Langbroek 647.3
298 De Merino's Veenendaal 642.4
314 Marken 639.4
335 DVVA Amsterdam (P) 634.7


ZAT 1B
Smitshoek could go one better this year after narrowly missing out this time, Vitesse Delft might be too good for this level, Spijkenisse and the moved Breukelen could impress, with GHC tipped as outsiders.
It could be a long season for Leonides, Nootdoorp, RCL and Alexandria’66 – BCVB improved greatly as last season developed so could be safe in mid-table.

152 Smitshoek Barendrecht 679.5
174 Vitesse Delft (R) 668.0
180 Spijkenisse 666.5
188 Breukelen fc 663.6
199 Deltasport Vlaardingen 660.8
208 GHC Leiden (P) 659.4
213 DSO Zoetermeer 658.2
232 fc Rijnvogels Katwijk 654.0
242 Gravenzandse SV's 651.3
263 Alexandria '66 Rotterdam 647.9
273 BVCB Bergschenhoek 645.6
288 RCL Leiderdorp (P) 643.0
340 Nootdorp 634.0
412 Leonidas Rotterdam (P) 622.5


ZAT 1C
Alblasserdam, VVGZ and Oranje With could all avoid the playoffs this time by winning the league, Stedoco ended last season well and Almkerk might achieve promotion again.
Sliedrecht and VVC’68 could go straight back down again, but De Zwervers, GPC and Heinenoord will have to improve or else they could find themselves down in Tweede Klasse sooner rather than later.

177 Alblasserdam 667.5
185 VVGZ Zwijndrecht 665.0
187 Oranje Wit Dordrecht 664.0
204 Almkerk (P) 660.1
218 Stedoco Hoornaar 657.5
222 Zaamslag 656.4
227 Rijsoord Ridderkerk (R) 655.1
256 Roda Boys-Bommelerwaard Aalst 649.1
257 SC Everstein Everdingen (P) 648.8
268 Sliedrecht (P) 647.2
274 VVC '68 Halsteren (P) 645.5
280 De Zwerver Kinderdijk 644.6
309 GPC Vlissingen 640.9
315 Heinenoord 639.3


ZAT 1D
Barneveld and Be Quick’28 could do well, but they might have to elbow aside Olde Veste’54, promoted AZSV and relegated NSC.
At the bottom it looks tight with anyone from DZC’68, Zwart Wit, DOS’37, ESC and WVF all looking possible candidates for the drop.

106 SDV Barneveld 697.4
171 Be Quick 28 Zwolle 669.7
175 d'Olde Veste '54 Steenwijk 667.9
189 AZSV Aalten (P) 663.6
191 NSC Nijkerk (R) 663.2
193 fc Zutphen 663.0
241 Go Ahead Kampen 651.4
248 DOS Kampen 650.9
254 DTS '35 Ede (R) 649.6
266 DZC '68 Doetinchem 647.5
286 Zwart Wit '63 Harderwijk 643.3
299 DOS '37 Vriezenveen 642.4
307 ESC Elburg (P) 641.2
317 WVF Zwolle 638.7


ZAT 1E
Relegated PKC’83 and HZVV look able to mount a challenge for a swift return to the Hoofdklasse, but Leeuwarder Zwaluwen, LTC and Blauw-Wit might all have a say in the promotion battle.
Holwierde, CVV Viboa, Drenthina all finished last season poorly (although Drenthina were in the playoffs) and they could be in danger – promoted sides Trynwalden and Buitenpost could also struggle to adapt to life in the Eerste Klasse.

143 PKC 83 Groningen (R) 682.2
192 Leeuwarder Zwaluwen Leeuwarden 663.1
202 HZVV Hoogeveen (R) 660.3
226 LTC Assen 655.2
243 Blauw Wit '34 Leeuwarden 651.2
245 Oeverzwaluwen Koudum 651.0
253 fc Meppel (P) 649.9
271 Grijpskerk 646.1
279 CVVB Bedum 644.7
283 Trynwalden VC Oenkerk (zat) (P) 643.6
292 Holwierde 642.8
310 CVV Viboa Winsum 640.7
311 Drenthina Emmen 640.5
328 Buitenpost (P) 636.4

Zondag Eerste Klasse to come (probably tomorrow)...
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Very interesting stats Marinus!

In some ways the system is a bit weird, although your explanation clarifies things. For example in Sunday B Venray are never going to win the title while on the other hand Dijkse Boys made some semi-spectacular transfers and at least will finish mid-table but probably higher.

So Saturday A is the strongest group as I expected, Quick Boys will be very determined to make the promotion this season, for example they've signed Steinraht from IJsselmeervogels, one of the best strikers around in amateur football in my opinion, but on the other hand they've lost technical manager to ADO where he becomes assistant coach, and former striker Onyeike.
In Saturday A I expect something too from Ter Leede who were very active at the transfer market and for example signed Tamerus.

Anyway, for a transfer overview in Saturday Hoofdklasse VoZ made a perfect overview.
http://www.voetbalopzaterdag.com/spe...el_hoofdklasse

In Sunday football, newcomers DIO signed 20 (!) players while other newcomer in C LONGA from the Achterhoek only signed one new player.

Unfortunately I can't find proper overviews.
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Yes, that's the weakness in my system - it's lags behind at the start of a season - and as teams that do so well in a lower league start to overtake teams above them.
But after about 10-12 games of the season it should start to look more sensible.
Be interesting to see how quickly Dijkse Boys and DIO start climbing the rankings with their entirely new squads!
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Today the Hoofdklasse fixtures have been released

@Marinus, Zondag Eerste Klasse? :hopeful:
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Today the Hoofdklasse fixtures have been released

@Marinus, Zondag Eerste Klasse? :hopeful:
Sorry Knoert, I'll try and do this tomorrow.
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ZON 1A

Here we have to tip a rebound for JOS-Watergraafsmeer, although EDO, DEM and De Meern could overtake them. The Sunday team of Roda’46 are better placed to challenge than their Saturday team, so expect to see them close to the top too.
Of the promoted teams De Dijk and Hoogland should be safe in the middle of the table, but Hercules and ZAP could struggle to stay in the EerstKlasse – De Kennemers are hot favourites to go down unless they improve on last season’s form, and Blauw Wit need to be careful too.

153 JOS-Watergraafsmeer Amsterdam (R) 678.6
164 EDO hfc Haarlem 672.3
167 Roda '46 Leusden (zon) 670.8
195 DEM Beverwijk 662.7
197 De Meern Vleuten 661.9
220 Stormvogels VV Ijmuiden 656.9
225 VVIJ Ijsselstein 655.5
236 DWV Amsterdam 653.0
259 De Dijk ASV Amsterdam (P) 648.5
265 Hoogland (P) 647.6
322 Blauw Wit Amsterdam 637.5
363 Hercules Utrecht (zon) (P) 630.2
366 ZAP Breezand (P) 629.6
464 De Kennemers Beverwijk 615.2


ZON 1B

The points for Papendrecht and SJC show they have a slight gap to Neptunus, so those two could well fight it out for the title. VUC and VELO might mount a bid for promotion too.
Although don’t discount Excelsior’20 and Pancratius, they could do well.
At the bottom three promoted sides look in danger, UVS, Nieuwerkerk and ADO amateurs all need to adjust to the higher division quickly to keep clear of GDA and Boshuizen who both look destined for a season of struggle.

128 SJC Noordwijk 688.8
134 Papendrecht (R) 684.8
158 SC Neptunus Rotterdam 675.2
178 VUC Den Haag 667.4
186 VELO Wateringen (P) 664.4
190 Excelsior '20 Schiedam 663.5
196 Pancratius Sloten-Badhoevedorp 662.3
207 Quick H's-Gravenhage 659.7
212 HVV's-Gravenhage 658.7
230 UVS Leiden (P) 654.3
240 fc Boshuizen Leiden 651.5
250 Nieuwerkerk a/d IJssel (P) 650.6
255 ADO Den Haag's-Gravenhage (P) 649.4
269 GDA's-Gravenhage 646.9


ZON 1C

Vlissingen, Geldrop, WSC and playoff loser JEKA all look title contenders, Nemelar finished quite well and could be up there if they take that form into 2011/2 – Terneuzen look like the best promoted side so they could be the dark horses in this league. Despite finishing as runners-up we think Brabantia won’t repeat this after some heavy defeats at the end of last season.
IFC look as if they could go straight to the Derde Klasse if they can’t improve, but three of the promoted sides don’t look very secure in this division either, so GOES, PSV amateurs could go down quickly – but Rood Wit’s rankings is low and after being promoted in the playoffs this year might be tough for them.

159 Vlissingen 674.1
172 Geldrop-AEK 669.1
205 WSC Waalwijk 659.8
206 JEKA Breda 659.7
210 Nemelaer Haaren 658.8
214 Terneuzen (P) 658.1
224 RKVV Best Vooruit 655.8
235 Brabantia Eindhoven 653.1
237 EFC Eersel 652.6
270 TSV Longa 646.5
281 IFC Hendrik Ido Ambacht (R) 644.6
285 GOES Goes (P) 643.4
293 PSV Eindhoven (am) (P) 642.7
373 Rood Wit Veldhoven (P) 628.6


ZON 1D

Playoff losers Bekkerveld and relegated RKSV look like title challengers, but they could face competition from HVCH and Oss’20 – Someren are the best of the sides coming up from the Derde Klasse but they might not have enough to break into the top teams in this league.
HVV and SVN/Vossenberg look as if they will be involved in the relegation struggle, but down there with them it looks like LHC, NWC and Heidebloem will all be trying to avoid the drop.

144 Bekkerveld Heerlen 682.1
162 RKSV Schijndel (R) 673.1
163 HVCH Heesch 672.8
184 OSS'20 Verbruggen 665.7
194 GSV '28 Beek 662.8
216 Sparta '25 Beek en Donk 657.8
229 Schaesberg VV Landgraaf 655.0
231 SV Someren (P) 654.2
239 TOP Oss Amateurs 651.8
272 SVN/Vossenberg Landgraaf (P) 645.6
284 Laura-Hopel Combinatie Eygelshoven 643.5
294 NWC Asten 642.6
301 Heidebloem Geleen 642.1
414 HVV Helmond (P) 622.4


ZON 1E

Germania and De Bataven, both left here after other sides were promoted look like front-runners this season, along with promoted Glanerbrug and Voorwaarts and SDOUC.
Rheden were poor in Hoofdklasse C so look like potential relegation fodder again – they along with Achilles’12, Tubantia and the promoted pair of Alverna and De Zweef could be in trouble.

142 Germania Groesbeek 682.9
150 De Bataven Gendt 680.3
173 Glanerbrug (P) 668.1
182 Voorwaarts Twello 666.2
198 SDOUC Ulft 661.7
200 PH Almelo 660.8
201 Jonge Kracht Huissen 660.6
211 SC Enschede 658.8
223 AWC Wijchen 656.2
244 Alverna Wijchen (P) 651.2
251 Tubantia Hengelo 650.3
262 Achilles '12 Hengelo 648.0
360 Rheden (R) 631.0
389 De Zweef Nijverdal (P) 625.1


ZON 1F

FVC could bounce back immediately, but they’ll face tough competition from Achilles 1894, Erica and the Groningen pair of GVAV and Gronitas – Dalen looked like relegation certainties for much of last season, but finished incredibly well before failing in the promotion playoffs – they could be dangerous this season if they can start well.
None of the promoted sides stand out in 1F, so it could be a season of toil for Velocitas, Emmen, DIO Oosterwolde and Wolvega. All four of those sides will hope for a poor season from STEVO, Joure or Bergum to save them.

165 Achilles 1894 Assen 672.1
166 Erica SC 670.9
203 Gronitas Groningen 660.2
217 GVAV-Rapiditas Groningen 657.6
219 FVC Leeuwarden (R) 657.2
221 Dalen 656.8
228 Nieuw Buinen 655.0
247 Bergum 650.9
249 SC Joure 650.7
252 Velocitas 1897 Groningen (P) 650.0
277 Emmen VV (P) 644.9
282 DIO Oosterwolde (P) 644.5
289 STEVO Geesteren 642.9
297 Wolvega FC (P) 642.5
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RBC want to restart next season and KNVB will put them in Vijfde Klasse, which is the 9th level!

Of course RBC didn't agree as they want to be put in Hoofdklasse, the 4th level. In my opinion they should be placed there indeed because of their history and tradition, but according to KNVB 'the quality of the selection of RBC can't be compared to the quality they got immediately after their bankruptcy because of many youth players moved to other clubs'.

What a nonsense declaration by KNVB, that's logical no? If they will restart they've got time enough to form a good squad for Hoofdklasse standards, just look to Dijkse Boys.
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If you wanna restart from scratch, which is what they're doing, then you gotta start at the bottom. If we're going by history and tradition, Haarlem should be revived and reinstated in the Eredivisie.

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As far as I know the rule is professional teams who return to amateur level can restart at Hoofdklasse level. The problem just may be there's one season in between now.

Haarlem decided to merge with Kennemerland because that was better for their finances in some way I believe.
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Surely the easiest way around this problem is for any reformed RBC to take part in the promotion playoffs to the Hoofdklasse.
They've already announced the format for Saturday (I'm not sure about Sunday).
But if "new RBC" can win their place in the Hoofdklasse by winning it on the pitch then there can be no argument.
If they don't qualify then they have to start lower down (although 5th Klasse is a bit of an insult)
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Goal galore in the Hoofdklasse this weekend, just some results:

Saturday A
ODIN'59 - SDC Putten 7-2

Saturday B
ASWH - Kozakken Boys 4-4
Scheveningen - Heerjansdam 8-1
LRC Leerdam - Xerxes 0-8
Nieuw Lekkerland - Nivo Sparta 3-4

Sunday C
Wit-Zwart Sneek - RKHVV 3-5
DIO Groningen - Babberich 3-4

The derby between Zwaluwen Vlaardingen and Excelsior Maassluis was stopped immediately after a 12-year-old youth player from Zwaluwen got injured. A kind of torch exploded in his hand when he wanted to light it. He was brought to hospital immediately but has got to miss his complete hand unfortunately.
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Oh oh oh, what a surprise, the police raided the home of Hoofdklasse-club Young Boys from Haarlem and arrested 18 people.

Illegal poker tournaments were held with a lot of money at stake. People were dealing about weed and other illegal drugs and stuff. Of course there was a lot of money laundering as well and the police took a lot of money.
One of the people arrested was a director of Young Boys.

Wonder what will happen with Rinus Israel's squad now, no info about that yet.
Visited them last summer when they were in the race for promotion to Topklasse. They faced Montfoort and they lost, it's really a typical kampclub (anyone for a translation?) with one pitch and one building were they hold these illegal evenings and deal with illegal stuff and so. Of course in that building there are dressing rooms too, but that's it. Hope they return to the lowest level soon.

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In Haarlem zijn achttien mensen opgepakt voor witwassen, hennephandel en illegaal gokken.
Volgens de politie waren ze betrokken bij wekelijkse pokeravonden in het clubgebouw van voetbalvereniging Young Boys. Daarbij zou om flinke bedragen zijn gespeeld. Tijdens de pokeravonden werd er volgens de politie ook in hennep gehandeld.
Dertien van de verdachten werden in het verenigingsgebouw aangehouden, onder wie een bestuurslid van de voetbalclub. De vijf anderen zijn op diverse plaatsen in Haarlem opgepakt. De politie nam een "aanzienlijk geldbedrag" in beslag.

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De kantine en de bestuurskamer van Young Boys zijn op last van burgemeester Bernt Schneiders gesloten. "Ik vind het buitengewoon ernstig dat het sociale karakter van zowel de voetbalkantine als de bestuurskamer is misbruikt door het organiseren van illegale pokeravonden", zegt de burgemeester.

Op andere plaatsen in Haarlem zijn in dezelfde zaak tientallen kilo's hennep, drie auto's en een motor in beslag genomen
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Young Boys won't play a match this weekend and it's very likely they'll be eliminated with all teams from all competitions, but that's not confirmed yet.
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They faced Montfoort and they lost, it's really a typical kampclub (anyone for a translation?) with one pitch and one building were they hold these illegal evenings and deal with illegal stuff and so.
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How many of these clubs do you have? WKE..these folks...and?


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Yeah WKE of course, Young Boys indeed, other ones which come to my mind now are Dijkse Boys (Helmond) and Vinkenslag (Maastricht) but there are several more, almost every big city has got such a club but most play in the lowest levels.

Something different, I saw Quick Boys, the sleeping giant who desperately want to Topklasse, lost at home and made a disastrous start of the season with 6 points out of 5 games. They better look to the bottom instead of the top right now.
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