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Sorry if these are stupid/obvious questions, but I've had a quick look and couldn't find anything.

I'm possibly going to the Netherlands in first week of May and obviously want to see some football while I'm there

The Eredivisie will be finished by then, but I'll probably see Sparta and a couple of Topklasse games. For Sparta can I just turn up on the day or do I need to get a ticket in advance? And roughly how much will the tickets cost?

According to footballfans the ko time will be Friday night 19:00, is this definite? And what time will the topklasse games be?

The Cup final is also on that weekend but I'm guessing it would be impossible to get a ticket? (legally I mean)

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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old March 16th, 2011, 07:22
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I'm sure that when you show up on match day you could get tickets. It's at 20:00, Friday May 6. Tickets are around 20 euro's depending on where you sit.

Topklasse is out of my league of interest Maybe Knoert can give you info about that.
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The Eredivisie actually finishes on the 15th of May. The KNVB Cup final is on the 8th though and no other league action is played that weekend.

The Dutch guys on the forum can help more with your other inquiries. Im looking to catch a PSV game possibly next season myself though :hopeful:
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The Friday night kick off time of 7pm is UK time, so as Andor says it'll be 8pm over in Rotterdam.

For the Topklasse games, they will generally kick off about 2pm-3pm in the afternoon, Saturday or Sunday - depending which day you are interested in.

The kick-offs vary club to club, so best place for up to date info is http://tobklasse.nl/ the week before the games.

For instance you can see that this coming weekend (18th-20th March), there are games at 2.30pm and 3pm (Dutch time) on Saturday and 2pm and 2.30pm (Dutch time) for the Sunday league - Oss are playing Friday as a relic of their Eerste Divisie days last season.
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Good to hear your visiting our country, where will you be staying?

About football, it depends a bit on where you stay and how long you want to travel. For example Belgium is not far from the Randstad area just as Germany isn't far from the east of the Netherlands.
In the Bundesliga for example Gladbach, Schalke and Leverkusen play at home that weekend, in Belgium it's not known yet as they're going to play these stupid playoffs etc.

In Topklasse on Sunday I can recommend the Groesbeek-derby, not that sensational but two teams from the same town playing each other it's always fun and a big crowd is guaranteed, at least 2000.
Groesbeek lies next to Nijmegen.

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The Cup final is also on that weekend but I'm guessing it would be impossible to get a ticket? (legally I mean)
Normally that's impossible as it's a so called high risk game (supporters) so tickets will only be sold to both sets of fans and sponsors etc.

I'll try to do some research, nothing is impossible you know .

Also if you go there on the matchday I think it's possible to buy a ticket illegally and you'll come in, but pay some more.

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I'm sure that when you show up on match day you could get tickets. It's at 20:00, Friday May 6. Tickets are around 20 euro's depending on where you sit.
However, it depends on the opponent I think?
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Sounds like a good weekend that you have planned, I'm sure you will enjoy yourself Have you been to any games in Holland before?

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However, it depends on the opponent I think?
Nah, this season is already lost and it's the last game of the season. Also I can't name a game so far this season that was sold out, however the game against RKC will be Why??
There are always seats available in the corners.
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Rijnsburgse Boys - Vv Katwijk also that weekend. Not the ultimate derby but a derby nonetheless


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Thanks for the responses guys

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Good to hear your visiting our country, where will you be staying?

In Topklasse on Sunday I can recommend the Groesbeek-derby, not that sensational but two teams from the same town playing each other it's always fun and a big crowd is guaranteed, at least 2000.
Groesbeek lies next to Nijmegen.

Normally that's impossible as it's a so called high risk game (supporters) so tickets will only be sold to both sets of fans and sponsors etc.

I'll try to do some research, nothing is impossible you know .

Also if you go there on the matchday I think it's possible to buy a ticket illegally and you'll come in, but pay some more.
Mostly staying in Amsterdam I think but will probably be in Rotterdam for a few days, especially if Sparta doesn't finish til 10pm.

For the Topklasse games I was thinking of Capelle for the Saturday and AFC for the Sunday but I'm open to other options
Will think about a Bundesliga game, how cheap/quick would a train be from say Rotterdam to Dortmund? Just a shame St. Pauli is too far....

With the final I was thinking more about the demand for tickets and it selling out. I'm not desperate to see it (so wont pay €100+ from a tout) but if it's on while I'm there and I could get a ticket, then why not?

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Have you been to any games in Holland before?
No, not been at all before (although been to Belgium...) It's more of a trip to Holland and seeing football while I'm there rather than a trip specifically to see football.
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Trains in the West (Amsterdam-Rotterdam-The Hague-Utrecht) run 24/7 (although only once per hour during the dead of night) so no need to worry about finding a hotel in Rotterdam, really.
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For the Topklasse games I was thinking of Capelle for the Saturday and AFC for the Sunday but I'm open to other options
Will think about a Bundesliga game, how cheap/quick would a train be from say Rotterdam to Dortmund? Just a shame St. Pauli is too far....
Capelle and AFC are quite boring matches, they won't attract a crowd over a few hundred...

Like Wally said there's Rijnsburg-Katwijk in the Saturday Topklasse, the distance between these two grounds is just a few kilometres, a real derby! If I was you I'd always prefer that one over for example Capelle...
Then take the Groesbeek-derby on Sunday and you've got by far the most interesting Topklasse games of the weekend!

On Friday I'd go for Cambuur-Zwolle, a kind of derby, Cambuur has got fanatic fans and Zwolle will certainly sell out their visitor tickets, disadvantage is Leeuwarden is quite far away in the North.
Also Sparta-MVV isn't bad.

As for the train-prices, from the west that's quite expensive without discounts... a return from Amsterdam or Rotterdam to Venlo costs about €40, then in Germany you can take an NRW-state ticket (all big places lie in NRW) which costs about €25 for one person.

Like Slag said don't worry about train times between Amsterdam-Rotterdam-Utrecht-Eindhoven these are 24/7 trains so you'll always get back when you stay in one of these cities. By the way Rotterdam isn't really interesting for tourists I think, visiting one day is enough.

Talking about German games, the most interesting one in my opinion takes place in Düsseldorf (also NRW). Because of the Eurovision song contest they'll play in a temporary stadium which exists only for three matches, so it's unique to visit. One of these games, at 8 May, is against Alemannia Aachen which are local rivals, so the atmosphere will be good. Tickets will be difficult but I can keep an eye on that.

If you want to know anything else just ask .

PS: the kickoff times at footballfans aren't reliable, I'd always check it in advance, best is teletekst.nos.nl 894 & 896 for Hoofdklasse, 833 for Topklasse and 829 for Jupiler League.
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Like Slag said don't worry about train times between Amsterdam-Rotterdam-Utrecht-Eindhoven these are 24/7 trains so you'll always get back when you stay in one of these cities. By the way Rotterdam isn't really interesting for tourists I think, visiting one day is enough.
Beware the trains to Eindhoven only run during the night from Friday-Sunday. Only Amsterdam-Rotterdam-The Hague-Utrecht have a night schedule all 7 days of the week.
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Beware the trains to Eindhoven only run during the night from Friday-Sunday. Only Amsterdam-Rotterdam-The Hague-Utrecht have a night schedule all 7 days of the week.
Hmm thanks I was too optimistic about public travel in our country, still it's in the weekend so Arrieta could use that one if needed.
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Why not take an ICE train from Amsterdam to the Ruhr?
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Why not take an ICE train from Amsterdam to the Ruhr?
Much more expensive... the normal single price A'dam-Ddorf is over €50, however at www.bahn.de there are offers as well for €24 single although you need to be quick and there's 'zugbindung' so you have to travel with that particular train.
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But it saves 1 or 2hrs from traveling time. From Venlo with the ruhrbahn to Dusseldorf is just a drag, including the transfer at Nazi bunker Monchengladbach station.
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Well yes, I guess I could easily watch Sparta then travel back to Amsterdam (When I went to Bilbao last year I saw Real Sociedad and got back at Bilbao okay at nearly 2am...).
Just thought it might be easier and planned to stay in Rotterdam a couple of days, but if you say it's only worth a day's visit then I probably wont.

Would be nice to see a Bundesliga game but the train might be too much and take too long (although the cheap match ticket will balance out the cost a bit). Also easier if I'm staying in somewhere nearer to the border instead of Amsterdam.

To be honest I haven't really booked anything yet (apart from the eurostar - did that earlier today, so I'm definitely going ). I'll have to have a think and work things out. As I say I think I'll mostly stay in Amsterdam but nothing's decided yet.
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I cant wait until next seasons Eredivisie schedule to come out.

For those who dont know im coming to NL for a week in mid August and am dying to watch a PSV game. Knoert will probably help me with ticket information if they are playing away as i know the procedure pretty much for home games
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Maybe some CL qualifier if PSV finish 2nd. Settle for that?


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I would actually but hopefully it will be a home Eredivisie match if the footballing gods are smiling upon me :hopeful:
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