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Group D final day : England-Ukraine / Sweden-France (Tuesday 20H45 Cet)

Sweden - France
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England - Ukraine
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Standings :

1 FRANCE .....................2G 1W 1D 0L 3-1 4P
2 ENGLAND ...................2G 1W 1D 0L 4-3 4P
3 UKRAINE ....................2G 1W 0D 1L 2-3 3P
4 SWEDEN.....................2G 0W 0D 2L 3-5 0P
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Come On England!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! rape the ukranians!!
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Italy vs France and England vs. Spain... I look forward to those matchups

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Let's go Ukraine!!! If they shut down Rooney, I have a good feeling about this one.
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Yup. Unless a big upset tomorrow those are the most likely matchups.

I'm especially thrilled towards a Italy vs France.

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if both england and france win tomarrow, whats the difference england gonna need in order to take the first place?
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• England will be through with a draw. If they lose, they have to hope France lose by enough so that England at least end level with Les Bleus on goal difference and goals scored (as England have a superior coefficient, 33.563 to France's 30.508).

• Ukraine will be through with a win and out with any other result.

• France will be through with a draw. If they lose, they would only be out if England lose but at the same time move level with them on either goal difference or goals scored.

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This coefficient thingy is utter bullshit
No it isn't as it reflects facts and not opinions.

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It should still be based on something during the tournament and not from before which the coefficient is. I know there needs to be an immediate decision, so deciding games are out of question but then base it on number of shots or number of corners or average ball possession or whatever but something from within the tournament itself.

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It should be based on fair play.

The team with the better discipline should go through.
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So if we get thru - we face the Spanish? Don't fancy that at all
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• England will be through with a draw. If they lose, they have to hope France lose by enough so that England at least end level with Les Bleus on goal difference and goals scored (as England have a superior coefficient, 33.563 to France's 30.508).

• Ukraine will be through with a win and out with any other result.

• France will be through with a draw. If they lose, they would only be out if England lose but at the same time move level with them on either goal difference or goals scored.

should be another interesting night.

come on England.
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if both england and france win tomarrow, whats the difference england gonna need in order to take the first place?
England win the group if either of the following (otherwise, France win the group).
  • England's winning margin is greater than France's by at least 2 goals
  • England's winning margin is greater by 1 goal and France do not score at least 2 goals more than England

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England win the group if either of the following (otherwise, France win the group).
  • England's winning margin is greater than France's by at least 2 goals
  • England's winning margin is greater by 1 goal and France do not score at least 2 goals more than England
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This might sound like going out on a limb but I expect Ukraine to go on and England to go home.

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It should be based on fair play.

The team with the better discipline should go through.
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