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post #1 of 61 (permalink) Old September 8th, 2010, 10:36 Thread Starter
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How good can Montenegro become?

2 wins out of 2 in qualifying, but for Euro 2012 it may be too early to qualify. How good can this relatively small nation become? Can it be as succesful as Croatia and Serbia and make the big tournaments frequently?

Just had a look at their team and very nice. Led by the awesome Mirko Vucinic and even winning these 2 games without one of the most talented players in Europe, Stevan Jovetic. Another notable face is Vukcevic of Sporting Lisbon, class midfielder. Most of the squad plays at a high level in either Russia or one of the continental leagues aswell so with many Montenegran players moving abroad like this, I think it will be rather quick for them to make their name at least on the European stage.

England for sure can not under-estimate them.
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new Slovenia perhaps.
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new Slovenia perhaps.
In terms of population, Montengegro is half a million, perhaps 600.000 while Slovenia over 2 million.

Overall, I am impressed by them. It appears they have a good team spirit and players give everything on the field.

It will be interesting to follow their progress.

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A bit of a kneejerk thread, especially given how much we suck right now.

Montenegro population is just too small for them to become a serious force. But for the size of the population (only 600 000 or so) they are awesome. And in the 3 matches I've seen of them they played with so much heart and commitment, great to see. I wish them all the best because Vucinic is my current footballing hero.

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I will say this, in this group they can finish second, but they probably won't do much in a major tournament/tougher group. They lack depth, any sort of string of injuries and suspensions they could be in trouble, mostly at the back where I see outside of guys like Basa and Pavicevic, its mostly domestic players

Zlatko Kranjcar is a good coach, he showed it at Croatia despite a disappointing WC 2006
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600.000, but you all forget their link to Serbia and the fact that they're tapping up some of our B players. A lot of their NT members are born and raised in Serbia.

There's definitely talent though, always has been with the likes of Savicevic and Mijatovic in recent times. With Jovetic and Vucinic they have two class players right now and lot's of promising youngsters breaking through, think of Fatic, Savic, Vesovic. I think they might challenge for the play-offs and will definitely have success some day.
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post #7 of 61 (permalink) Old September 8th, 2010, 19:53
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Thank you Deano for starting this thread

As to whether we will be as successful as Serbia or Croatia, i am not sure simply because we are such a small country, not to say Croatia and Serbia are large countries themselves because they too are also small compared to the likes of France, Germany and Italy, but i think we can definitely be compared to a Slovakia or Slovenia, overall a very tough team to beat.

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I would've agreed with you a couple of years ago when we were just starting out, but our defense has improved dramatically since then. Along with Basa and Pavicevic, we also have captain of Russian team Spartak Nalchik, Miodrag Dzudovic, and our left back Milan Jovanovic who also plays for the same team. Dzudovic was vital in our game against Wales where he made Craig Bellamy seem almost non-existent, which is not an easy thing to do. We also have a number of young defenders coming through such as Ivan Fatic of Genoa, Stefan Savic of Partizan, Zarko Tomasevic of Nacional, Nemanja Mijuskovic of Dinamo Moscow and Nikola Vujadnovic who is on loan at Aberdeen from Udinese, so we definitely have more than enough strength at the back for the future. Also, from the last two qualifiers, we only had two players from our domestic league that were called up, Radoslav Batak and Luka Pejovic, both whom play at Mogren Budva.

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Montenegro don't have any really top clubs sides though like Serbia and Croatia did when they emerged. Montenegrin clubs were probably the weakest along with Macedonian sides in the former Yugoslav league.

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All I know is we beat Montenegro IN montenegro...and they want to qualify
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Montenegro don't have any really top clubs sides though like Serbia and Croatia did when they emerged. Montenegrin clubs were probably the weakest along with Macedonian sides in the former Yugoslav league.
Yeah, the only real "big" club we have is Buducnost, but they never qualify for Europe, just like almost every other well known club from former Yugoslavia nowadays.

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That was only Zlatko Kranjcar's second game in charge and seven of our first eleven starters starters were out, but i knew one of you guys would mention this considering how much it meant to you
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That was only Zlatko Kranjcar's second game in charge and seven of our first eleven starters starters were out, but i knew one of you guys would mention this considering how much it meant to you
yeah, i mean beating montenegrins in your own country isn't bad....
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Half their team is from Serbia, they have way more than 600,000 people to choose from.

There's no reason why they can't finish 2nd in this group, but I think it will be way to hard to qualify this time around. I think they'll make the next Euro's for sure.

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Half their team is from Serbia, they have way more than 600,000 people to choose from.
Yes, but the majority of them for the exception of Beciraj have Montenegrin roots. It's no different with a Serb from Croatia or Bosnia playing for Serbia. In the end, it's the players decision to play for whichever national team they want to represent.
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Half their team is from Serbia, they have way more than 600,000 people to choose from.
How? Their team is montenegrin, not serbian, different thing, don't forget that.
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How? Their team is montenegrin, not serbian, different thing, don't forget that.
wrong... they all serbs but since serbia rejected them they had to go with their 2nd choice montenegro...
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vucinic is the best player of yugoslavia/balkans so why not
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vucinic is the best player of yugoslavia/balkans so why not
he's too incosistent.. i dont think he would be a starter for serbia
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vucinic is the best player of yugoslavia/balkans so why not
of course he is, my cousin that plays 3rd division in albania is better than him probably.

Lorik Cana, captain of French champions Marseille, Sunderland and now Galatasaray is the best Balkan player....excluding the serbs because i don't count them being in the balkans...they're more from russia..
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excluding the serbs because i don't count them being in the balkans...they're more from russia..
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bro u the only guy from CG who doesnt call himself serb and actually hates... wtf r u a siptar?
When did i ever say i hated Serbia?...i certainly don't. Is it really a crime to come from Montenegro and wanting to support the Montenegro national team?
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